Controversial New EU Copyright Rules Pass Another Legal Hurdle

The European Parliament has given its final approval to the Copyright Directive, a new set of laws aimed at big U.S tech firms that “scrape” data from content creators without their permission.

“The directive introduces mandatory exceptions to copyright for the purposes of text and data mining, online teaching activities and the preservation and online dissemination of cultural heritage,” a European Council press release from February explains. “The directive introduces a new right for press publishers for the digital use of their press publications. Authors of works incorporated in the press publication in question will be entitled to a share of the press publisher’s revenue deriving from this new right.”

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The Copyright Directive contains two controversial articles, both of which survived intense scrutiny and criticism during its gestation.

The first, Article 11, is often referred to as the link tax because it allows publishes to charge companies that scrape their content to use as snippets in search results or in news aggregations services. The second, Article 17, is called the upload filter and it makes new content policing requirements of sites like YouTube that allow users to post their own content.

Not unexpectedly, passage of the Copyright Directive was met with harsh criticism by certain companies and organizations.

“The directive will lead to legal uncertainty and will hurt Europe’s creative and digital economies,” a Google statement reads. “The details matter, and we look forward to working with policy makers, publishers, creators and rights holders.”

The Electronic Frontier Foundation was even more critical, noting that the EU has “abandoned common sense.”

“The Directive is written so that any owner of copyrighted material can demand satisfaction from an Internet service, and we’ve already seen that the rightsholders are by no means united on what Big Tech should be doing,” the EFF explains. “Whatever Internet companies and organizations do to comply with twenty-seven or more national laws – from dropping links to European news sites entirely, to upping their already over-sensitive filtering systems, or seeking to strike deals with key media conglomerates – will be challenged by one rightsholder faction or another.”

The good news? The articles in the Copyright Directive aren’t laws yet. As the EFF explains, it’s still possible that some majority of EU member states will fail to approve the directive when they vote later this month. And activists are working to help make that happen.

But even if the directive passes muster with the European Council, it will still require a lot of time for them to become laws because each will need to be transposed into every member state’s national laws. And they have until 2021 to do so. The problem is that some countries that enthusiastically support the directive will try to push the changes through more quickly.

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  • bart

    Premium Member
    26 March, 2019 - 10:07 am

    <p>Paul, as a content creator, what is your view on Article 11?</p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      26 March, 2019 - 10:43 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415544">In reply to Bart:</a></em></blockquote><p>As he creates all of his own content, it shouldn't cause any changes for him, at least not in terms of publishing. If people are re-posting his premium content, for example, on YouTube, he would then have redress, in Europe.</p><p>It will be interesting to hear what he thinks.</p><p>The bill aims to put a stop to people uploading copyrighted works to YouTube, for example, such as music videos, TV series and films, where they do not own the rights – which is something Google should be doing already, but they just grab advertising revenue off the uploads until the copyright owner lodges a complaint and the video is pulled.</p><p>That said, the link tax is a bit silly, and Google have already adjusted Google News, it only shows the headline, not even a snippet. But it is up to the publishing site to decide, whether they want to pursue payment or not for the snippets.</p>

      • lvthunder

        Premium Member
        26 March, 2019 - 11:07 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415567">In reply to wright_is:</a></em></blockquote><p>The key question is how is Google (or any other company) supposed to know if something is copyrighted or not.</p>

        • karlinhigh

          Premium Member
          26 March, 2019 - 1:02 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#415573">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>They'll probably have to assume everything's copyrighted? Unless it comes from a source that's not copyrighted by statute, like works produced by USA Gov't.</p>

        • wright_is

          Premium Member
          27 March, 2019 - 1:17 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#415573">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>They've had 15 years of breaking copyright laws and hiding behind safe harbor to work out how to get this right. They knew they were in the wrong, when they released the service, but decided it was cheaper to live off the income of showing adverts on violating videos whilst paying lawyers to keep copyright holders at bay…</p><p>If they had done what was legally and morally correct from the beginning, we wouldn't have this mess now.</p><p>They can look at fingerprints of known infringing video, they can have the uploaders sign some form of electronic affidavit declaring that the upload is legal and they assume responsibility – of course, you'd have to have a registered name and address.</p><p>Certain entities can get verified accounts, such a podcasters, TV stations, moview studioes, music labels and websites and news services, which agree to only upload their own material.</p>

          • christian.hvid

            27 March, 2019 - 9:22 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#415817">In reply to wright_is:</a></em></blockquote><p>To an extent, this mess is also the fault of the copyright holders, who spent fifteen years harassing private citizens who happened to download some MP3's over LimeWire, instead of focusing their efforts on those who turn copyright infringement into billions in profit. </p><p><br></p><p>Yes, I know that YouTube and others have been shielded by the DMCA and similar laws, but by relentlessly going after teenagers and grandmas who couldn't defend themselves, the media corporations lost the moral battle over copyright. This is why internet activists so fiercely oppose Article 13, sincerely believing that theyr'e fighting for freedom of expression while they're really just protecting Google's bottom line.</p>

          • lvthunder

            Premium Member
            27 March, 2019 - 4:22 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#415817">In reply to wright_is:</a></em></blockquote><p>I'm guessing if you look in the YouTube terms of service it probably already says that. </p><p><br></p><p>My contention is that any user generated uploaded content is going to hit someone's copyrights at least some of the time. I mean how does Paul know I didn't copy and paste this comment from someone's else's copyrighted comment on another site.</p>

            • christian.hvid

              27 March, 2019 - 4:53 pm

              <blockquote><em><a href="#416002">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>Blogs and discussion forums are actually among those type of sites that are exempt from the provisions of Article 13 (now 17). It seems to me that whole purpose of this legislation is to force Google, Facebook and others to negotiate a blanket license with rights holders. Once they've done that, we can all go back to sleep.</p>

  • waethorn

    26 March, 2019 - 11:28 am

    <p>Remind me what good the EU/EC has done lately? Or ever.</p>

    • murray judy

      26 March, 2019 - 11:37 am

      <blockquote><a href="#415590"><em>In reply to Waethorn:</em></a><em> Here's one: The over-regulation by Brussels was a major factor in the Brits voting to leave the EU. It wasn't just about immigration as often reported.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

      • waethorn

        26 March, 2019 - 4:02 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415592">In reply to murray judy:</a></em></blockquote><p>Semantics. It wasn't the EU that did good there.</p>

    • Vladimir Carli

      Premium Member
      26 March, 2019 - 11:58 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415590">In reply to Waethorn:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>remind me what good the US Federal government has done lately? or ever?</p>

      • lvthunder

        Premium Member
        26 March, 2019 - 12:30 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415616">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>The US government defeated Nazi Germany with the help of others. That's pretty good in my book.</p>

        • Vladimir Carli

          Premium Member
          26 March, 2019 - 1:56 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#415622">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p> </p><p>true but does not correspond to my definition of "lately". However, my answer was sarcastic, in response to poor sarcasm. If we want to look at the historical perspective, there are no wars in Europe since more than 70 years, it's a record by far.</p><p>As the most basic "good", the four freedoms of movement for goods, services, capital and people have significantly improved the life of hundred of millions people in the EU.</p><p>V.</p><p><br></p>

          • Greg Green

            27 March, 2019 - 11:51 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#415644">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>You forgot Serbia? </p><p><br></p><p>Or wars by Europe? Syria and Libya?</p>

        • waethorn

          26 March, 2019 - 4:03 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#415622">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>True, but the EU is just the new German Empire.</p>

        • hrlngrv

          Premium Member
          26 March, 2019 - 7:27 pm

          <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/203777/controversial-new-eu-copyright-rules-pass-another-legal-hurdle#415622&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to lvthunder:</em></a></p><p>Nothing about defeating Japan. Guess you didn't grow up in a navy family.</p>

          • skane2600

            27 March, 2019 - 1:47 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#415743">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's quite possible that if Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor, the US would have sat WWII out. </p>

            • Rob_Wade

              27 March, 2019 - 11:13 am

              <blockquote><em><a href="#415820">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Although, honestly, we were pretty involved as a support/supplier player prior to that. Pearl Harbor simply became the event that nudged to formal declaration. I think if things had gotten any worse for England, even without the Pearl Harbor attack, we'd have jumped in formally in 1942.</p>

              • skane2600

                27 March, 2019 - 12:32 pm

                <blockquote><em><a href="#415897">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p>That's possible too although Congress resisted getting into the war prior to Pearl Harbor and those were the days when the Congress' Constitutional role as the gatekeeper to war was still respected. Since the end of WWII Congress has allowed presidents to pretty much make war whenever they feel like it without having to justify it.</p>

              • jules_wombat

                28 March, 2019 - 9:36 am

                <blockquote><em><a href="#415897">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p>Well yeah, but late as usual. Some two years after the Battle for Britain, and France and the rest of Europe being overrun. </p>

            • Greg Green

              27 March, 2019 - 11:53 am

              <blockquote><em><a href="#415820">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>And if Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US we might have sat the European war out.</p>

        • Greg Green

          27 March, 2019 - 11:41 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#415622">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>And defeated the Soviet Union, again with the help of others, most notably a sovereign Great Britain.</p>

          • skane2600

            27 March, 2019 - 12:25 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#415912">In reply to Greg Green:</a></em></blockquote><p>We defeated the Soviet Union? What was the decisive battle? What were the terms when they surrendered to us?</p>

    • spacein_vader

      Premium Member
      26 March, 2019 - 12:38 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415590">In reply to Waethorn:</a></em></blockquote><ol><li>Data Protection legislation that's worth a damn (GDPR)</li><li>The Working Time Directive. It means employers must offer at least some paid holiday and they can't force anyone to work more than 48 hours a week (but they can voluntarily.)</li><li>The European Arrest Warrant allowing criminals to be pursued across borders throughout the bloc.</li><li> Lead free petrol across the bloc, improving air quality.</li><li>Enforced a cap on roaming charges for mobile phones, so you don't get stung for huge call costs when you move between countries.</li><li>EU wide patent and copyright protections. Register in one nation and you're covered in all.</li></ol><p><br></p><p>Now assuming you're US based only the first of those is likely to have an impact on your life but for those of us on this side of the Atlantic it makes life a lot easier.</p>

      • waethorn

        26 March, 2019 - 4:01 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415625">In reply to spacein_vader:</a></em></blockquote><p>The copyright regulations are draconian.</p><p><br></p><p>And the arrest warrant doesn't do anything about the most corrupt criminals: the un-elected politicians running the EU.</p>

    • the_real_entheos

      26 March, 2019 - 1:31 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415590">In reply to Waethorn:</a></em></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>How about the abolishment of daylight savings time!</blockquote><p><br></p>

      • Greg Green

        27 March, 2019 - 11:46 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415638">In reply to the_real_entheos:</a></em></blockquote><p>My daughter says “Jet lag! In your own state! Why!”</p>

    • paulwp187

      Premium Member
      26 March, 2019 - 2:19 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415590">In reply to Waethorn:</a></em></blockquote><p>I honestly don't know what good the EU has done recently. The EU is just international socialism in another name. It has bribed a good number of fickle people with bits of legislation that make them think that 'life is a bit easier'. They want us to be a European superstate.</p>

      • soundtweaker

        26 March, 2019 - 8:16 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#415649"><em>In reply to paulwp187:</em></a><em> They're standing up to Google and putting them in their place and giving the rights back to creators. Something the US government is afraid to do. </em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • nbplopes

    26 March, 2019 - 11:34 am

    <p>In my option Google should just block Europe from using their search engine. Of course MS would not be willing to participate in such measure … </p><p><br></p><p>Juts wonder how that would turn out for European businesses.</p><p><br></p><p>Having said this, there should be a way for businesses and authors to flag that they do not want to be indexed by search … ops, actually there is but somehow Google ignores it.</p>

  • rosyna

    26 March, 2019 - 11:56 am

    <p><em style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The second, Article 17, is called the upload filter and it makes new content policing requirements of sites like YouTube that allow users to post their own content.</em></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Thats Article 13, not 17, and was passed by just 5 votes.</span></p>

  • jules_wombat

    26 March, 2019 - 2:45 pm

    <p>The EU is right. Protecting the rights of the creators and artists who create content, not freeloading Google, making money. The US needs to listen and take authority from EU leading on these rights.</p>

    • Daniel Blois

      26 March, 2019 - 4:29 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#415653"><em>In reply to Jules_Wombat:</em></a><em> the EU is not right. This will hurt consumers AND small publishers while helping the big publishers </em></blockquote><p><br></p>

      • Greg Green

        27 March, 2019 - 11:40 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415686">In reply to Daniel_Blois:</a></em></blockquote><p>I understand consumers will be ‘hurt’ because they won’t be getting items while ignoring creators ownership rights, but how will this hurt small publishers? Will sites steal from small publishers but not large publishers?</p>

      • jules_wombat

        28 March, 2019 - 9:31 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#415686">In reply to Daniel_Blois:</a></em></blockquote><p>What will the consumers actually be able to consume, if all the creative content is pinched and so creators go out of business and stop creating. Sheer Lunacy. This is just like the music industry driving out small innovative new groups. </p>

    • Rob_Wade

      27 March, 2019 - 10:59 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415653">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Um, no. The US doesn't need to listen to the EU, period.</p>

  • skane2600

    26 March, 2019 - 3:39 pm

    <p>As with any broad law, many people would like some applications of it and hate others. </p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    26 March, 2019 - 7:25 pm

    <p>I already visit several EU-based news sites themselves, not being able to rely on Google News or the like is NBD.</p><p>TBH, I can live with news reverting to a paid service, with sites offering only a handful of free articles a day. OTOH, it'd be nice to be able to buy individual articles a la carte rather than have to pay monthly subscriptions.</p>

  • bob_shutts

    26 March, 2019 - 9:58 pm

    <p>This directive is very vague. It will lead to endless litigation. As usual, the lawyers will be the winners.</p>

    • hoomgar

      27 March, 2019 - 11:53 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#415772">In reply to Bob_Shutts:</a></em></blockquote><p>My thoughts exactly.&nbsp; It's all about the money anyway.</p>

  • gvan

    27 March, 2019 - 12:39 pm

    <p>This is just a small part of the larger Agenda 21 plan.</p>

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