The New Edge is Rolling Out via Windows Update

It’s finally happening: Microsoft has begun automatically deploying the new Edge web browser to Windows 10 users via Windows Update.

“Microsoft has released a new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge,” a Microsoft support article tied to KB 4541302 notes. “This new version provides best in class compatibility with extensions and websites. Additionally, this new version provides great support for the latest rendering capabilities, modern web applications, and powerful developer tools across all supported OS platforms.”

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Microsoft released the first stable version of the new Microsoft Edge back in January, but that release was for manual downloads only and was missing several key features, most notably extension sync. But now that the new Edge has that feature, and now that Windows 10 version 2004 is starting to (slowly) rollout, Microsoft has finally put the new Edge into the Windows Update queue as well.

When you upgrade to the new Edge, it will replace legacy Edge while migrating forward your browser data and launching into a new First Run Experience after a reboot. You will not be able to uninstall this update, however.

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  • mclark2112

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 10:55 am

    <p>Once I get the Group Policy Dumpster Fire that I inherited under control, this is gonna be awesome! Goodbye IE, finally.</p>

    • dashrender

      Premium Member
      03 June, 2020 - 11:24 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544586">In reply to mclark2112:</a></em></blockquote><p>What does this have to do with IE? Do you believe IE mode will solve all the need for old IE?</p>

      • darkgrayknight

        Premium Member
        03 June, 2020 - 4:11 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544590">In reply to Dashrender:</a></em></blockquote><p>Saying goodbye to IE is on the list of projects where I'm working. It has gained steam from the chromium Edge being completed and now will be more encouraged with its release.</p>

      • mclark2112

        Premium Member
        03 June, 2020 - 4:49 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544590">In reply to Dashrender:</a></em></blockquote><p>It will, actually. Right now IE has to be the default browser on the machine for our core software to work. So even though people have Chrome, they don’t tend to use it. Once I can get our core apps to work right in Edgeium, I’ll be able to lose Chrome and not have people using IE as their default browser. I just can’t get the IE mode GPO to apply consistently. Probably because of so many conflicting/overlapping GPOs.</p>

        • beckoningeagle

          Premium Member
          03 June, 2020 - 6:09 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#544653">In reply to mclark2112:</a></em></blockquote><p>Try creating the Edge GPO at the highest level in AD you can and then selecting Enforce. That should override any other GPO's downlevel. Just make sure you only configure the edge stuff in that object and also allow up to 3 reboots for the update to work for users (you can do a GPUPDATE, of course, but I don't know how many machines you manage, so it could be daunting).</p><p><br></p>

          • wright_is

            Premium Member
            04 June, 2020 - 2:27 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#544673">In reply to BeckoningEagle:</a></em></blockquote><p>It might solve the immediate problem, but getting to the bottom of the GPO conflicts is still the better method, otherwise you will always be fighting fires, because things "mysteriously" break.</p><p>Our biggest problem at the moment is Siemens PLC management software, it only works in IE. I haven't had a chance to test it with new Edge yet. Why they haven't upgraded their management software in the last 15 years to use something other than IE is beyond me.</p>

  • dftf

    03 June, 2020 - 11:58 am

    <p>Odd. The MS article title is "The new Microsoft Edge is available for Windows 10, version 1903 and 1909"… so no auto-updating on 2004 just yet then?</p><p><br></p><p>Also, two questions, Paul: (1) does this new Edge have the IE tab feature, where Enterprise customers can make a tab load inside Edge rendered using the IE11 engine (say to make an old Intranet site work, or old website requiring Java) and (2) when this new version hits Windows 7 and 8.1 devices, will it migrate Internet Explorer data, or is it only old-Edge data affected?</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks</p>

    • compuser

      03 June, 2020 - 1:51 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544596">In reply to dftf:</a></em></blockquote><p>If you update your computer to Windows 2004 via Windows Update, the new Edge installs as part of the update. If you download the Windows 2004 ISO and do a clean install, the new Edge does not install. But the first time you launch Edge in Windows 2004, it opens to a tab where you can update it to Chromium Edge. At least that's how it worked on the four upgrades and one clean install I did. In my opinion, Chromium Edge is basically Google Chrome. In my limited use, running them side by side, they look and (seem to) act exactly the same.</p>

      • miamimauler

        03 June, 2020 - 8:02 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544625">In reply to CompUser:</a></em></blockquote><p>"If you update your computer to Windows 2004 via Windows Update, the new Edge installs as part of the update"</p><p><br></p><p>I'm not sure that's correct, at least in my case anyway. I updated an old laptop to 2004 and it still has original Edge installed.</p>

        • Paul Thurrott

          Premium Member
          04 June, 2020 - 9:13 am

          My understanding is that that is not correct. I don’t believe you get the new Edge with 2004.

      • wright_is

        Premium Member
        04 June, 2020 - 4:29 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544625">In reply to CompUser:</a></em></blockquote><p>New Edge does not install as part of 2004, you still have to manually download it. 2 machines I had with legacy Edge are still on legacy Edge after the 2004 upgrade (1 with upgrade assistant, the other with the official Windows Update over WSUS). The one machine I had manually upgraded to new Edge is naturally still running it.</p>

      • kjwest1969

        06 June, 2020 - 2:32 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544625">In reply to CompUser:</a></em></blockquote><p>This should replace chrome for corporate users running Office365. The reason is that it can be used as a single multi-platform browser that is integrated as an Intune Managed App. If on the other hand, the customer is Google Docs customer, then Chrome is better.</p>

    • skinnyjm

      03 June, 2020 - 10:38 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544596">In reply to dftf:</a></em></blockquote><blockquote>My PC in the Release Preview Ring (2004) installed it via Windows Update today but installed version 81.0.416.81, which hasn't been the current stable release in a couple of weeks now. 83.0.478.37 was released to stable channel on May 21.</blockquote><p><br></p>

  • red.radar

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 1:03 pm

    <p>My only complaint with new edge is the name. </p><p><br></p><p>it’s a good product I enjoy using it and recommend it. Just waiting on the Linux version to complete my transition </p>

    • beckoningeagle

      Premium Member
      03 June, 2020 - 5:54 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544602">In reply to red.radar:</a></em></blockquote><p>I agree, especially when you have a website that says it is better with chrome, something goes wrong in the server end and you call in and they insist that you should install Chrome (it happened to me with a local bank and I simply told them I was using chrome. Most of my clients will still install chrome because of this). People just don't understand that it is practically the same thing. I wished they had changed the name and advertised it enough so that regular people understand that it is the same thing.</p>

  • hellcatm

    03 June, 2020 - 2:00 pm

    <p>I would hope they're doing this, but if they're not they should. I know people need/want to use the old Edge and IE, so they should just take out the code from Windows and make them separate apps. </p><p><br></p><p>Still when I go to certain sites it'll open up in old Edge and even IE which is annoying. And yes I do have Credge set as my default browser.</p>

  • vbuckjr

    03 June, 2020 - 2:19 pm

    <p>I have seen issues with Windows 10 Web Kiosk mode not able to run with the new Edge browser. Any status on that working with W10 2004?</p>

  • anderb

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 8:22 pm

    <p>Remember to turn off safe-browsing if you don't want to send every URL you enter to Microsoft!</p>

  • nbplopes

    04 June, 2020 - 5:04 am

    <p>Still dealing with IE technical devastation in customers sites …</p>

  • compuser

    04 June, 2020 - 5:34 pm

    <p>I'm not sure why I care, but to everyone saying I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I know what I did on my computers. Like I said in my original comment, <em>"At least that's how it worked on the four upgrades and one clean install I did."</em> (Well, one correction to that because it was actually three successful upgrades and one failure that necessitated a clean install after the upgrade bricked my tablet, so four systems in all, not five.) Anyway, the three systems (one desktop and two laptops) that successfully upgraded to Windows 2004 from Windows Update all had new Edge when the upgrades completed. The tablet required a clean install from a downloaded ISO because after upgrading it from Windows Update I could no longer log onto it (it would immediately log me off when I logged on), and it did not have new Edge when the clean install completed. However, the first time I launched old Edge on it, it opened to a tab that recommended upgrading to new Edge, which I did. So all four systems now have new Edge, but the only one I updated manually was the tablet. I really don't know what to say if things went differently for anyone else.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      04 June, 2020 - 11:11 pm

      <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/web-browsers/microsoft-edge/236046/the-new-edge-is-rolling-out-via-windows-update#544816&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to CompUser:</em></a></p><blockquote>the first time I launched old Edge on it, it opened to a tab that recommended upgrading to new Edge</blockquote><p>FWIW, the latest Insider build (19640) works the same. Old Edge still installed and working. First time launched after new build it adds a tab for the upgrade.</p><p>The last several Insider builds may have done the same, but I don't use Edge so don't check it often.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      05 June, 2020 - 8:09 am

      Microsoft is deploying the new Edge via Windows Update too. That’s separate from 2004.

  • gedisoft

    Premium Member
    06 June, 2020 - 11:40 am

    <p>Hi, I hate chrome &amp; love the new edge. It's my default browser for a few months now. The only thing I can't get to work is the ESX remote console (the connect to VM's), fortunately Firefox does work for this. </p>

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