Why Firefox is falling behind

I’ve been using Firefox a lot more-lately, but compared to my usual Edge on Windows, or Opera, Brave or Vivaldi on Android, I have noted a number of issues or missing-features that are rather-irritating, and to me show examples of the lack-of-attention to the basics Mozilla are often accused-of having thesedays.

No “Paste as Plain Text” option. So useful in Edge; whereas with Firefox I have to dump rich-text into Notepad first, then copy-and-paste from that.

Slow video-playback on some sites. Some videos can take 10-15 seconds to either first start playing, or to play after seeking to a new point. No issues in any other browser on the same sites, and makes no-difference if I have the “use hardware acceleration” setting on or off. (The videos are not AV1 format, before anyone asks.)

Slow page-load on some sites, or broken page features. While yes, I can hear people already typing “lazy developers only optimising for Chromium-derived browsers” it’s still going to turn users away if sites are slow to load or have parts of the page that don’t work — a common one I find are websites that let you enter a postcode to check stock-levels, or comment-sections on some news sites. (I do use the “send report” feature to report such pages to Mozilla, but not-sure if anyone ever does anything with such reports.)

“Only show on New Tab” option for Bookmarks Bar still broken. The Bookmarks Bar doesn’t appear with the “blank page” setting, only with “Firefox home”. Still not fixed, despite many users reporting this on their bug-tracker site.

Tracking Protection can only be fully ON or OFF. Brave, Opera and Vivaldi let you disable certain protections, such as third-party cookies or trackers, on a per-site basis while leaving everything else on. In Firefox you can only disable all protections for a site, or not, but nothing more-granular.

Cannot edit URL while bookmarking. Click the star icon to bookmark a site and you can edit the name, location and set some tags (I wonder how-many users actually bother with the tags feature?) at that time, but you cannot edit the URL, such as to delete referrer information. Most other browsers let you edit the URL at the time of bookmarking. Firefox requires you to bookmark a site first, then locate the bookmark, right-click it and do “Edit”, wasting time.

Favicon not stored during bookmarking. Firefox only gains a favicon for a site the first time you visit it after bookmarking it, not during the bookmark process. As such, if you edit the URL after, and the site does a redirect while loading, that bookmark will never gain a favicon.

Bookmarks appear at the bottom of the Address Bar. If you type a name of a bookmark, by-default it appears at the bottom of the Address Bar, after the search-results. While you can turn search-results off, logically I’d expect bookmarks to appear first.

Confusing duplicate settings. Cookies and cache can be cleared under both “Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed” and “Clear history when Firefox closes…”. Not sure why only the latter can’t just be offered?

No “cookies to keep” option. Edge has a really-useful feature where you can choose to keep cookies when you close it from particular sites or domains, while deleting all others, with wildcard syntax, such as [*.]youtube.com supported. I think Firefox has a similar feature (“Manage exceptions…”), though if so it doesn’t seem to work, and doesn’t support per-domain syntax, only specific URLs (e.g. consent.youtube.com or cookiecontrol.youtube.com but not *.youtube.com).

Spell-checking doesn’t work by-default. Even if “Check your spelling as you type” is on, it doesn’t work… until you go to the Add-Ons page and install a dictionary extension for your language! You’d think underneath this setting they might tell users they have to manually install a dictionary, but no!

No “translate” or “Read Aloud” equivalents. Not being able to right-click a page and choose “Translate to English” sure becomes irritating, and Firefox also has no equivalent to the useful “Read Aloud” feature in Edge, allowing you to listen to an article in the background while doing other things. I’m sure there are extensions that could do both, but I’d expect at-least the former to be built-in functionality by now.

Low-marketshare on Android is likely down to lack of extensions. If you go to the menu in the Firefox Android app, then to Add Ons (which browses to addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/android) there are just 17 total! Given many users still cite extensions as a major reason they choose Firefox, it’s hardly surprising the Android version is barely-used! (Not sure how-many are offered on iOS, but I’d expect less, given the forced-use of Webkit there and so Apple being in-control of the APIs and rendering-engine.)

But, for balance, some things I think Firefox does better:

The right-click menu and hamburger menus are cleaner, whereas the ones in Edge are over-stuffed with pointless options.

Doesn’t include bloated features, such as “Edge bar”, “Shopping in Edge”, “Collections”, “Pinterest in Collections”, “Pay in installments”, “Cite this” or “Math(s) Solver” (though many of these can be disabled, and don’t apply to Brave, Chrome, Opera or Vivaldi, of course).

The “take screenshot” feature exports as PNG format, whereas “Web Capture” in Edge offers only JPG.

Firefox lets users customise more of the interface, though the amount to which you can do this is constantly diminishing over-time.

Built-in support for blocking cryptominers and fingerprinters. Edge doesn’t do either, and I don’t think Chrome does either.

The printing experience is more-consistent in Firefox, whereas Edge sometimes doesn’t offer some options on some sites.

The issue of trust. If you don’t like a browser made by either Google or Microsoft then sure, Mozilla might suit you better. But then-again, on Windows you could also use Brave, Opera or Vivaldi. If you’ve specifically bought a Mac, iPhone or iPad then this would imply you trust Apple, so why not use Safari there? And on Linux, you could either use the stock Chromium, or one of a number of distro-specific or desktop-environment specific browsers instead.

Conversation 30 comments

  • miamimauler

    22 March, 2022 - 4:26 pm

    <p>@DFTF</p><p><br></p><p>I’m not a FF user so can’t speak to your issues with FF. However, from a purely market share perspective FF is holding on if you trust StatCounter.</p><p><br></p><p>In June last year FF desktop share had fallen to 7.17% and was definitely on the skids but has rebounded to register 9.46% in Feb 2022.</p><p>When you consider both Safari and Edge are also in the 9% region you must concede that FF is holding it’s own and even rebounding…at least for now.</p><p><br></p><p>It will be interesting how Mozilla respond to Google’s alternative to their abandoned Manifest V3 as it may be an opportunity for them.</p><p>It will also be interesting to watch if Mozilla can avoid what may be inevitable in following MS in adopting Chromium.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

    • dftf

      22 March, 2022 - 4:54 pm

      <p>I can’t say how accurate <em>StatCounter </em>is, but sure: <em>Edge, Firefox </em>and <em>Safari </em>on desktop all have roughly the same marketshare as of February this year. And <em>Chrome</em> has lost market-share to both <em>Firefox</em> and <em>Edge</em>, it would appear (with <em>Safari </em>and <em>Opera</em> both seeing roughly no-growth).</p><p><br></p><p>But if you look at the mobile or tablet stats it’s a different picture. On tablets, <em>Chrome </em>and <em>Safari </em>both own about 85.4% of the market-share combined; <em>Firefox</em>’s use is so-low it just gets added to the "other" category. And on mobile (which I assume includes both Android and iOS together), <em>Chrome </em>has 61.9%, <em>Safari </em>has 25.6% and <em>Firefox </em>just 0.5%.</p><p><br></p><p>Given how there are many people now who are "mobile-first" or "tablet-first", and how reliance on desktop or laptop devices is fading, it is concerning <em>Firefox</em> is seeing no growth in either of those device categories. And on desktop, I’d argue the fact both <em>Firefox </em>and <em>Edge</em> have gained market-share, while <em>Chrome </em>lost, would indicate there is clearly a "push-factor" involved here — something that has driven users away from <em>Chrome </em>– compared to a "pull factor".</p>

      • miamimauler

        22 March, 2022 - 5:10 pm

        <p>@dftf</p><p><br></p><p>"<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But if you look at the mobile or tablet stats it’s a different picture"</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yeah, both FF and Edge are bordering on being embarrassing. Neither browser registers above 1% market share on both tablet or mobile.</span></p><p>I would argue though FF never had a healthy tablet or mobile market share. FF had dabbled in mobile but have never really attacked it in a committed fashion.</p><p><br></p><p>In any event, Google Chrome, Safari and Samsung Internet own mobile. FF and Edge have no chance of building a healthy share in mobile. </p>

        • dftf

          22 March, 2022 - 5:27 pm

          <p><em>Edge</em> may have a chance of growth when it comes to corporate mobile devices, where Microsoft’s <em>InTune</em> MDM solution is being used — if you’re "all-in" on Microsoft, it would make-sense to use <em>Edge</em> as the managed-browser as there are lots of things you can control on both <em>Android </em>and <em>iOS</em>. (See: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/manage-microsoft-edge)</p><p><br></p><p>I’m not sure if you can do anything-similar with <em>Firefox</em>? All I can find via some web-searches is articles that relate to <em>Windows </em>devices that are managed via <em>InTune</em>, and policies that apply to the <em>desktop</em> version of <em>Firefox</em>.</p>

          • miamimauler

            22 March, 2022 - 5:49 pm

            <p>@dftf</p><p><br></p><p>Come on man. Legacy Edge went nowhere on mobile and to date Chromium Edge is less than 1% on mobile. This MS ‘all in’ thing is fanciful. Anyone believing that will happen is living in la la land.</p><p><br></p><p>Mobile is done. Google and Apple won…the end!</p><p><br></p><p>I mean MS can’t even hold their desktop OS share. It has collapsed in the U.S to 61% with OS X surging at 27% and Chrome OS at 8%.</p><p>In all OS’s combined Windows now marginally trails iOS with Android close behind followed by OS X.</p><p><br></p><p>Windows, Edge and Bing which stands at less than 3% globally on all platforms combined are going backwards.</p>

            • dftf

              23 March, 2022 - 6:28 am

              <p>I’m not suggesting <em>Edge</em> on mobile is suddenly going to surge because of enterprise use, I was just giving one valid example of where it offers an advantage versus <em>Firefox</em>. Many large enterprises do use "managed devices" and prefer apps they can control.</p><p><br></p><p>But also, with respect, I’m not sure what the point is in keep debating this with you when you openly admitted "I’m not a FF user". Why not? It’s not like switching to the Apple ecosystem, where there will be a cost of entry — <em>Firefox</em> is FREE. Using it, and so boosting their market-share, is surely one of the best things you could do as then when they come to negotiate future search-provider or default-bookmark type deals they’ve a stronger argument.</p><p><br></p><p>Why be so passionate about a product you could use, at no-cost, but choose not to?</p>

      • wright_is

        Premium Member
        23 March, 2022 - 4:18 am

        <p>I think it is the tyranny of the default on mobile, as it used to be on Windows, until the browser ballot – but then Microsoft fell asleep at the wheel for so long, that they missed out on the second browser revolution, that is hard to come back to.</p><p><br></p><p>"Most" desktop users use Chrome these days, or Safari, if they are on Macs. That naturally leads to Chrome and Safari remaining as the default, when the users go over to mobile. They are good enough for most people.</p><p><br></p><p>Only those that are worried about privacy or want specific features found elsewhere bother to look for another browser, and that is, unfortunately, still a relatively small proportion of users.</p>

        • dftf

          23 March, 2022 - 6:33 am

          <p>Most users likely use <em>Safari</em> on <em>macOS</em> or <em>Google Chrome </em>on <em>Windows</em> as in most benchmark tests I’ve seen (all dated within the last year) those browsers on those respective platforms usually perform the best in most tests.</p><p><br></p><p><em>(Firefox</em> in one test about a year ago seemed to have vastly-lower RAM usage, but I’ve not found any more-recent test to back that up.)</p>

  • F4IL

    22 March, 2022 - 6:05 pm

    <p>I do use FF on Android where the features are more in line with what blink based derivatives offer but, unfortunately, the performance of FF is pretty terrible. It gets the job done, but much like <em>the modern web</em>, it’s slow and heavy.</p><p><br></p><p>From the perspective of <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">web standards and </span>features it is a losing battle since it is impossible to implement support for all the above and do it well across all platforms and CPU architectures. If that is not enough, the scope of web browsers keeps expanding at breakneck speed and as a result, small projects cannot keep up and fall by the wayside.</p><p><br></p><p>The fact that unlike apple and google, msft could not keep up with their own web browser is pretty telling. Creating an independent browser from scratch is an enormous undertaking and it would probably take them years to support just the basics, not to mention becoming competitive and a realistic alternative for most people that expect all the latest features and gimmicks.</p>

    • dftf

      23 March, 2022 - 6:43 am

      <p>I also use <em>Firefox</em> on <em>Android</em>, but given the fact it offers barely any extensions, and UI-wise it looks the same as <em>Chrome </em>(aside from allowing the toolbar to be positioned at the bottom), and it is slower for some sites, I don’t really see the point. Rivals like <em>Brave, Opera</em> and <em>Vivaldi</em> often have over-bloated UIs in their desktop forms, but on mobile-devices, they all look pretty-much the same, with a bar at the top, and one at the bottom, so you can easily flit between any of them — there isn’t much of a learning-curve.</p><p><br></p><p>Microsoft <em>did </em>have their own web-browser at one-point in the form of the <em>Legacy Edge</em>, but whereas some people used to rave about it, I found it slow (such as clicking a link, then only 5-7 seconds later would a new tab suddenly appear and do anything) or having odd render issues (such as loading only part of a page, the loading animation finishing, but then a few seconds later the rest of the page appearing, or the context appearing once you started to scroll down). The new <em>Edge</em> is much-better, they just need to stop adding all the crap features to it no-one is asking for.</p>

  • vladimir

    Premium Member
    22 March, 2022 - 6:34 pm

    <p>Firefox has problems for sure but it’s by far better than edge, which becomes more terrible with each release. Edge is actually pushing me back to chrome, which I left years ago because I can’t stand google tracking.</p>

    • dftf

      23 March, 2022 - 7:22 am

      <p>Why back to <em>Chrome</em> and not an alternative, such as <em>Brave, Opera</em> or <em>Vivaldi</em>?</p>

  • wright_is

    Premium Member
    23 March, 2022 - 4:08 am

    <p>I’ve not experienced the <strong>video playback </strong>problems you mention, it seems to work fine for me (Firefox on Windows 11, macOS and Linux).</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Delete cookies and site data </strong>and <strong>Delete History </strong>are 2 very different things. Delete history deletes the list of the sites visited, so there is no record of where you went in the history list (although you could start to reconstitute it going through the cookies still on the machine). Delete cookies and site data actually deletes the data out of the cache for all sites visited, so pages visited again will have to completely reload.</p><p><br></p><p>We have a company policy that all data cache must be deleted when exiting the browser, but the user can retain their history, when they start their next session.</p><p><br></p><p>Not noticed any <strong>broken pages </strong>on any of the sites I visit regularly.</p><p><br></p><p>I never really look at the <strong>favicons</strong> in the bookmarks, I’m looking for specific pages within a site, so look at the names, so I haven’t noticed that limitation. I can understand that that might be annoying.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Bookmarks </strong>are appearing as the first option, when typing into the URL/search box.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Spelling check </strong>is a pain for me, as I work in multiple languages, so it usually marks everything as red!</p><p><br></p><p>Given that Mozilla doesn’t have a <strong>translate tool, </strong>that is hardly surprising, although I’ve never used it on any other browser either. Do Opera, Vivaldi and Brave have translate? They use Chromium as a base, but they don’t use Google &amp; Microsoft services, as they are more privacy based.</p><p><br></p><p>I stopped using Firefox on Android, because it didn’t work with my password manager! I ended up switching to Brave on Android.</p><p><br></p><p>I mainly use Safari on my Mac, iPhone and iPad, with Firefox as a backup. On Windows and Linux, I always use Firefox, apart from managing our work Microsoft 365 admin portal, where I use Edge.</p>

    • dftf

      23 March, 2022 - 7:03 am

      <p>The <strong>video-playback </strong>issues only affect some sites, so it’s likely just that they don’t test against <em>Gecko</em> — but still, the end-result for me is I switch to <em>Edge</em> for them as I can seek and get instant playback after, not have to wait 10-15 seconds.</p><p><br></p><p>I’m not sure you understood my <strong>delete data </strong>issue properly. If you go to Menu &gt; Settings &gt; Privacy &amp; Security you will find an option called "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed. This deletes cookies, "HTML5 cookies" and the cache. But scroll-down further and you’ll find "Clear history when Firefox closes" and to the right is a "Settings…" button where you can choose which areas will be deleted: cache, cookies and "offline web site data" can all be ticked in there also. So these two areas in the settings let you do the same thing.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Bookmarks </strong>will appear as the first option if you’ve configured options under the "Search Suggestions" category. By-default, search-suggestions usually come first, and bookmarks at the bottom, which I find an odd choice. Surely a matching bookmark would be preferable, given the user has specifically added that intentionally.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Translate </strong>isn’t a widespread thing, no: testing on <em>Android</em>, only <em>Vivaldi</em> also asked me if I wanted to. But there is no-reason why <em>Firefox</em> couldn’t ask if you wanted to use either <em>Google </em>or <em>Microsoft</em>’s services, but not send the website to them until you consent. Or maybe use one of the open-source alternatives, like "Apertium" or "LibreTranslate"?</p><p><br></p><p>If <strong>Safari for Windows</strong> was ever to be a thing again, would you prefer that on <em>Windows</em> to <em>Firefox</em>?</p>

      • wright_is

        Premium Member
        23 March, 2022 - 10:08 am

        <p>No, I’d stick with Firefox. Safari for Windows was always a nightmare.</p><p><br></p><p>I only use Safari now on Mac (I started using a Mac again at the end of last year, after ~10 year break) because it has similar levels of privacy to Firefox and, with the new enhancements in macOS and iOS actually offers more privacy in some areas. I’m still tossing up, whether to switch to Firefox on macOS.</p>

        • hrlngrv

          Premium Member
          23 March, 2022 - 5:22 pm

          <p>If you REALLY love hacking, you could use WSL with and X server to install and run Web under WSL under Windows. Web uses WebkitGTK, so should, in theory, render sites like Safari.</p>

  • spacein_vader

    Premium Member
    23 March, 2022 - 4:09 am

    <p>I use Firefox for 3 main reasons.</p><p><br></p><p>1. An independent rendering engine. It isn’t Chromium underneath, reducing the homogeneous state of the Web rendering market. Brave etc are still rendered by chromium when alls said and done. </p><p><br></p><p>2. Addins. On desktop a lot of Addins that block tracking or ads are banned by Chrome for obvious reasons. They aren’t on FF. </p><p><br></p><p>3. Tab containers. The feature that let’s me run Facebook and Google tabs in their own container that doesn’t have access to the rest of my browsing is brilliant. </p><p><br></p><p>Admittedly these all apply to desktop browsing and I don’t use it on mobile although it is installed. I think other browsers are working on 2 and 3 but 1 is a big issue for me. I remember the bad old days when websites were only tested against IE, I don’t want to see it happen again with Chrome. </p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      23 March, 2022 - 4:25 am

      <p>Unfortunately, it is happening again with Chrome. Many sites are broken with Safari and Firefox, because they only get tested with Chromium based browsers, probably specifically Chrome. And this despite the fact that Safari and Firefox are actually more standards compliant in some areas than Chrome… Sites are broken to work with Chrome and the devs don’t give a toss about getting it to work with other browsers.</p><p><br></p><p>I’ve moved away from add-ins on my browsers. I mainly use the OS features (Apple) or my PiHole DNS server, which blacklists nearly 3 million known tracking and malware sites – and most of the advertising sites are trackers, so automatically get blocked through the trackers lists. On the move, iOS does a reasonable job of blocking unwanted trackers.</p>

      • spacein_vader

        Premium Member
        23 March, 2022 - 10:18 am

        <p>I’ve also got pihole running, but use other things like privacy badger on top. </p><p><br></p><p>Where do you get your ad lists BTW? I’ve got 500,000 domains blocked but am happy to add more! </p>

      • hrlngrv

        Premium Member
        23 March, 2022 - 5:17 pm

        <p>Can’t help the cynicism, but when has anyone cared more for standards compliance than $$$$?</p><p><br></p><p>FWIW, uniforminsignia.org is completely FUBAR with Firefox, but renders correctly with Webkit-based browsers. Probably because Blink and Webkit are still <em>close enough</em>.</p>

        • dftf

          29 March, 2022 - 5:45 am

          <p>What exactly is wrong for that site in <em>Firefox</em>?</p><p><br></p><p>I’ve tested it in the latest stable <em>Edge</em> and <em>Firefox</em> versions and aside from the text being smoother in <em>Edge</em>, it otherwise renders the same. I’ve selected "UK" in the dropdown, then done Search. That worked in both. And then I clicked the same "Royal Air Force" first entry, and again all pictures loaded in the same places.</p><p><br></p><p>The landing page for the Forum also renders the same (again, aside from sharper text in <em>Firefox</em>, smoother in <em>Edge</em>), though clearly I’m not going to join a site I’m not otherwise interested in to test further.</p><p><br></p><p>Where exactly are you having issues?</p>

    • dftf

      23 March, 2022 - 7:15 am

      <p><strong>"An independent rendering engine"</strong> isn’t something your average user will care-about though.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>"On desktop a lot of [ad-blockers] are banned by Chrome. They aren’t on FF." </strong>As of now, they don’t appear to be in <em>Edge</em>, and <em>Brave, Opera </em>and <em>Vivaldi</em> all come with built-in ad-blockers on both desktop and mobile. The "Manifest v3" change that <em>Google</em> made to limit what extensions can do is going to be ignored or worked-around in both <em>Brave </em>or <em>Vivaldi</em> (and I think the <em>Opera</em> team also made a similar statement). So <em>Firefox</em> isn’t the only browser users could move to.</p><p><br></p><p>Do <strong>tab containers</strong> do much-different from just using those sites inside a "Private" window? Doesn’t that use a separate cache and cookie-store to your regular, non-private session? And for an even-more secure solution, why not use one web-browser for most sites, and a different one for specific sites? Then they are completely isolated — even in a container, I’m sure there are ways they can still track you, based on hardware info, or requesting installed extensions or something.</p>

      • rgelb

        23 March, 2022 - 1:41 pm

        <p>&gt; Do <strong>tab containers</strong> do much-different from just using those sites inside a "Private" window?</p><p><br></p><p>Yes, it keeps the information from session to session, but separate from the main browser.</p><p><br></p><p>&gt; For even more secure…. why not use one web-browser for most sites, and a different one for specific sites</p><p><br></p><p>Tab containers are not about security – that is provided by the browser. They are about massive convenience. My use case is that I have multiple Gmail accounts. Switching from one to another is a massive pain. The containers allow me to just open a new tab in the Gmail account that I assigned to the container. </p><p><br></p><p>Another great use case is that our family shares a YouTube Premium subscription on a Google account different from mine. I’ve set it up so that when YouTube is loaded, the browser automatically switches to container with that Google account.</p><p><br></p><p>IMO, just this feature is worth using Firefox for.</p>

  • abrarey

    23 March, 2022 - 6:59 am

    <p>I was a Chromium Edge user for a while but switched to Firefox after MS started adding unneeded pieces of stuff in the browser. No problems so far, very good and stable. The container is pretty neat to limit Facebook and Google capturing information. </p>

    • dftf

      28 March, 2022 - 6:45 pm

      <p>If you’re that concerned about your data and privacy, wouldn’t just not using Facebook be better?</p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    23 March, 2022 - 5:02 pm

    <p>Re favicons, they became FUBAR years ago, not quite as far back as Australis (FF29), but not long after that. They were definitely totally FUBAR by the last version that used XUL add-ins (somewhere in the 60s).</p><p><br></p><p>HOWEVER, one can use userChrome.css to force custom favicons. I have dozens of blocks like</p><p><br></p><p>/* Custom favicon for ‘TryOCaml’ */</p><p>.bookmark-item[label="TryOCaml"] image {</p><p> &nbsp;margin-left: 0px !important;</p><p> &nbsp;width:0!important;</p><p> &nbsp;height:0!important;</p><p> &nbsp;padding: 0 0 16px 16px !important;</p><p> &nbsp;background:url("file:///home/XX/Pictures/shared_pictures/icons_etc/16x16_ocaml.png")!important; /* Linux path */</p><p>}</p><p><br></p><p>Sure it’s a PITA, but if this is important to you, you COULD accomplish it. Since the death of XUL and effective deprecation of anything like Classic Theme Restorer, mucking about in userChrome.css is the only way to make serious changes to Firefox’s UI.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      23 March, 2022 - 5:09 pm

      <p>I should add: Firefox encodes favicons in bookmark entries in the bookmark database it maintains. If you were adventurous, you could export bookmarks as an HTML file, change the embedded encoded favicons, then import the modified HTML file. IMO, userChrome.css is simpler and easier.</p><p><br></p><p>Sadly, there’s NOTHING like Chrome’s <strong>Tab Modifier</strong> add-in for Firefox. It works in Edge, so presumably all Blink-based browsers which use the same bookmarking infrastructure as Chrome. But it doesn’t work with Firefox, which may not be surprising since Firefox’s bookmarks still support separators, something Chrome doesn’t now have if it ever did.</p>

  • dftf

    26 March, 2022 - 7:58 am

    <p>To correct one thing: <em>Firefox</em> actually <em>does</em> have a "Read-Aloud" type mode called "Toggle Reader View", but for some reason it doesn’t work on all UK news sites I use. And even-so, when it does the reading-aloud (text-to-speech) it uses the built-in system engine (SAPI5) in <em>Windows 10 </em>and <em>11</em>, and the voices do not sound anywhere near as-good as the AI-based ones used in <em>Edge</em>. (Why <em>Microsoft</em> doesn’t use the same AI-tech for <em>Windows</em>’ built-in voices I don’t know.)</p><p><br></p><p>Everything else though still stands: sure, you <em>could </em>likely find an extension to add such missing functionality to <em>Firefox</em>, but who knows how safe or reliable many of them are, given most of them need permission to "access data on all websites". I’m not sure the browser most consider the "safest" or "most-trustworthy" can really claim that title when it relies on users having to grab extra features from God-knows-who. If Mozilla are going to constantly say "we don’t want bloat in our browser, hence why we offset stuff to extensions" then maybe they could at-least make more of them officially?</p>

  • Rachel Gomez

    28 March, 2022 - 4:35 am

    <p><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">As per the official stats, the reported number of active (monthly) users was about 244 million at the end of 2018. And, it seems to have declined to 198 million at the end of Q2 2021</span></p><ol><li><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">So, that makes it a whopping&nbsp;</span><strong style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">~46 million decline in the userbase.</strong></li><li><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">Mozilla’s Firefox, the once prevalent internet browser, has reportedly lost 46 million users over the past three years.</span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);"> The likely culprits are the&nbsp;</span><strong style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">lack of significant updates and the overwhelming popularity of browsers like Google Chrome</strong><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">.</span></li></ol><p><br></p><p><strong style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">Regards,</strong></p><p><strong style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">Rachel Gomez</strong></p>

    • dftf

      28 March, 2022 - 6:48 pm

      <p>Thanks for your input random user who now doesn’t seem to exist</p>

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