Leaked Controller Reveals Lockhart will be Called Xbox Series S

A few weeks ago, a white next-gen Xbox controller showed up after someone had it out during a pizza party at their house. Tonight, we are seeing the retail box of the next generation controller that says it is compatible with the Xbox series S.

According to the user on Reddit, they saw the controller for sale on OfferUp and purchased the device. The retail box, on one side, notes that it is compatible with the Xbox series S.

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Microsoft has yet to announce the Xbox series S but that is expected to occur later this month but so far, has yet to talk about the console, The series S is also known as Lockhart and will be a less-powerful version of the Xbox series X.

Other images of the box make it clear that this is a next generation controller. We know this because it uses USB-C and has the new D-pad layout.

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  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    09 August, 2020 - 8:15 pm

    <p>There was also Window 10 in S mode. What's with 'S' at MSFT? <strong><em>S</em></strong>uck up to <strong><em>S</em></strong>atya?</p>

    • bart

      Premium Member
      10 August, 2020 - 10:24 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#560157">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>There was also a Xbox One S. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe, that it…? Just guessing here</p>

  • evictedkoala

    09 August, 2020 - 9:57 pm

    <p>Not embarrassed to say, Xbox's naming habits confuse the hell out of me. I can't imagine having to explain this stuff verbally and tripping all over the place.</p>

    • pachi

      09 August, 2020 - 10:37 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#560165">In reply to evictedkoala:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>it is absolutely awful. Regular parents have no idea wtf their kids want or what’s what. </p>

    • Jorge Garcia

      09 August, 2020 - 10:46 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#560165">In reply to evictedkoala:</a></em></blockquote><p>It makes sense if you realize that, unlike Sony, they want to get rid of the idea of distinct "console generations" as the concept really doesn't make sense anymore. They're all just x86 PC's now, so, just like a PC, the consumer buys the newest/best model they can afford to get the maximum software compatibility they desire, understanding that if they go too cheap, they will lose access to SOME games, or at least access to their better-looking modes. This is different to consoles as when you don't upgrade to the newest generation, you lose access to ALL of the games. Microsoft knows they are going to release more consoles in the future so they are establishing a two-tier paradigm wherin all the upcoming X-es will be the high end model, and all the upcoming S-es will be the compromised model….</p><p>That being said, I do agree that there are more consumer friendly naming schemes they could have chosen :)</p><p><br></p>

      • ikjadoon

        09 August, 2020 - 11:07 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#560173">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>…but even in x86 world, we name our generations a tad more clearly (8th, 9th, 10th gen; DDR3, DDR4; RTX 2070, RTX 2080). Having two consoles in one generation is not new: Xbox One S vs Xbox One X. </p><p><br></p><p>In the end, the names are typical Microsoft obfuscation over the likely Series S / X sticker shock. Just like "QLED" by Samsung's marketing department.</p><p><br></p><p>"Wow, this one is so much cheaper and only one letter off. I must be getting like 99% of the high-end experience because most of the letters are the same!"</p><p><br></p><p>Having similar names is only blurs the lines to Microsoft's benefit: "Hey, you're not buying lower-end hardware. It is lower-end, but don't think about that. Look at all the similar letters. You would reasonably expect these are nearly identical, right?"</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

        • Jorge Garcia

          09 August, 2020 - 11:23 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#560175">In reply to ikjadoon:</a></em></blockquote><p>But the things you mention are not generations, they're iterations/improvements to compatible things. "PC" software works on 7th, 8th, 9th generation of Intel chips, just to varying degrees. And while a game might look better using an RTX 2080, in many instances a 2070 could work just as well. That's a VERY different paradigm to say the PS3/PS4 paradigm where ALL the software is incompatible. I do agree that the X-Box consumer must from now on become more product savvy to make sure they know what tier of "PC" they are actually buying…but the price tag itself should provide the biggest clue :)</p>

      • solomonrex

        10 August, 2020 - 7:04 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#560173">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Except they spiked that concept when they ended the Xbox One X instead of making it cheaper and axing the S. So, they clearly signaled, "whoops, console generations are here to stay, my bad!". It's one of the most baffling things they've ever done.</p><p><br></p><p>The games will not stay compatible for long, either. I believe they signaled it would be two years. The only difference seems to be that they don't have to print separate discs to work on two console generations during the transition. Whoop-de-do.</p>

        • Jorge Garcia

          10 August, 2020 - 6:01 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#560216">In reply to solomonrex:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's not going to be an easy transition to make. There will be mixed signals for sure.</p>

      • Greg Green

        14 August, 2020 - 9:44 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#560173">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>The problem with that argument is the console is a closed box, not upgradable. The PS naming system is much more helpful for consumers who don’t want to learn what a Ryzen or nvme is.</p>

    • silversee

      10 August, 2020 - 4:30 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#560165">In reply to evictedkoala:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I don't see why it's so hard. S = entry level; X = high end. </p><p><br></p><p>Also, entry level is white, high end is black.</p><p><br></p><p>This has been consistent for some years now.</p>

      • solomonrex

        10 August, 2020 - 7:01 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#560192">In reply to Silversee:</a></em></blockquote><p>That part is not hard, obviously it's difficult because it's almost the same name as the Xbox One names, with the same model breakout. People will end up with the wrong console.</p>

        • Thretosix

          10 August, 2020 - 12:24 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#560215">In reply to solomonrex:</a></em></blockquote><p>The One X and One S have already been discontinued. Pretty sure this won't be a problem at all as the only options will be Series S and Series X. The Series S will be better than the One X and likely quite a bit cheaper. It's really not that hard to figure out. I'm sure you understand this, it's not a slight to you. If this is too difficult for people to understand maybe it's the person who doesn't understands problem. To be honest I've never heard of people not understanding this.</p>

  • tripleplayed

    09 August, 2020 - 10:21 pm

    <p>Finally! </p>

  • davidl

    10 August, 2020 - 12:31 am

    <p>Is there going to be a way to control TV volume from Xbox series X|S controller?</p>

  • sherlockholmes

    Premium Member
    10 August, 2020 - 9:26 am

    <p>Surprise, surprise. </p>

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