The Sams Report: What is Windows Lite?

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On this edition of the Sams report, a closer look at Windows Lite, Edge updates, 8CX, and answering many of your questions.

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  • CMDV

    Premium Member
    07 December, 2018 - 11:28 am

    <p>Modern File Explorer is "C:Windowsexplorer.exe shell:AppsFolderc5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App"</p>

  • waethorn

    07 December, 2018 - 11:33 am

    <p>"Tastes great. Less filling."</p>

  • Winner

    07 December, 2018 - 1:07 pm

    <p>Given the Windows 10s failure, Microsoft obviously knows that their W10 OS is too big of a convoluted hairball of code to be competitive in certain ways. The question is whether they can make a Windows OS that is streamlined enough to be decent and still be Windows.</p><p>If it were me (which it is not), I would make a Windows 11 that gets rid of the advertising crap, gets rid of most legacy backwards-compatibility, fixes the UI issues in W10, and REWRITES a bunch of the code to be modular, more secure, efficient, and smaller – while preserving existing Win32 application and API compatibility. And I'd structure it so that updates can mostly occur without reboots – like Linux or Android. </p><p><br></p><p>But that won't happen as they a) won't spend that much effort; and b) would need to monetize all that work</p>

    • skane2600

      08 December, 2018 - 10:15 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#379513">In reply to Winner:</a></em></blockquote><p>I don't see any consistency between stating get "rid of most legacy backwards-compatibility" and "preserving existing Win32 application and API compatibility". What non-Win32 or non-API compatibility are you suggesting Windows should get rid of?</p><p><br></p><p> In any case, your suggestions (valid or not) are from a developer or techie POV, but not the average Windows user. It's those users who determine if Windows is a viable product or not. </p>

      • Winner

        09 December, 2018 - 4:22 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#379964">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>I'm not deeply technical here, but it seems that there are things like XP mode, like ancient utilities, ancient menus, crap like "There's a lot of stuff on the clipboard, do you want to delete it?" when you are closing an application, etc. That's all ancient legacy code crap and I'm sure there's a lot more. You need to preserve the ability to run the largest legacy apps (photoshop, browsers, etc.) but not the back to MS-DOS days stuff. And get rid of all that ancient UI stuff and modernize the hell out of it. And clean up the UI mess of Win10.</p>

        • skane2600

          10 December, 2018 - 1:11 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#380178">In reply to Winner:</a></em></blockquote><p>You can't sell Windows on the basis of saying it supports all the big name applications but not the lessor known ones because there's a wide variety of applications people depend on. Windows 10 doesn't include an XP mode and doesn't run MS-DOS applications.</p><p><br></p><p>We can debate the usefulness of the clipboard warning, but it's a UI philosophical question and has nothing to do with being old or modern. There's a subset of users who think that UI style is critical, but I believe most people are just happy if there are visual indications of what is or is not a button. Sadly MS like Google and others have fallen into the fad of hiding control elements so that it's like finding a snowman in a snowstorm. </p>

  • Bats

    07 December, 2018 - 3:48 pm

    <p>No. That won't work because businesses (Microsoft's bread and butter) won't go for a version of Windows you describe.</p><p><br></p><p>The best overall solution is to create a brand new OS, that is an simple to use and maintain as Chrome OS. Most importantly….don't call it "Windows."</p><p><br></p><p>LOL…I've only said it a few hundred times this past year and last. I also said, that Microsoft needs to focus on the web, particularly the browser. Had Microsoft done exactly what I have suggested, Windows Phone would not be dead. I started saying that 2 years ago. Gosh….I am a genius.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>As we approach the end of the year, let's think back to genius statements:</p><p><br></p><p>"Xbox One X" is gonna do nothing, No one is going to buy that" (and no one did)</p><p><br></p><p>"Why buy the new Pixel at launch? It's going to go on sale for half the price for the Holidays." (When I said that, I was imaging a BOGO offer, like I saw Verizon offering last year. It was better than that. I got my Pixel 3 XL (64GB) for less than $380 not including taxes.)</p><p><br></p><p>"Xbox Games Pass and all of Microsoft's attempts to be relevant in the gaming world, will make Sony stronger."&nbsp;(And it did. Sony is dominating, not just in unit sales, but also online memberships and Playstation Now).</p><p><br></p><p>"Gorgeous?….no one is gonna buy that thermostat Medhi and it's not." (Not only did no one buy the Johnson Controls thermostat, no one even talks about it.)</p>

  • Thom77

    07 December, 2018 - 5:57 pm

    <p>But will it still force me to download an update the moment i connect to a insanely slow public internet connection? If not, it will not be the full Windows 10 experience.</p><p><br></p><p>The only reason I need Windows is because of gaming. Other then that, I would be on Linux full time.</p>

  • skane2600

    07 December, 2018 - 8:59 pm

    <p>Sounds like Windows RT Version 3. How many times must they make a non-Windows Windows before they realize nobody wants one?</p>

    • shameermulji

      08 December, 2018 - 12:48 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#379686">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>That's essentially what it is =&gt; RT 3.0 but the biggest problem with RT was that it had Windows branding in the name of the OS. If MS had branded it something else, like Apple has macOS &amp; iOS, it would have been far less of an issue.</p>

      • skane2600

        08 December, 2018 - 1:25 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#379849">In reply to shameermulji:</a></em></blockquote><p>That was half the problem. The other half was creating Windows 8 and aligning it with RT in order to promote it. A failed mobile platform and a damaged desktop platform was the result. And now MS appears to be tripling-down on that failed strategy.</p><p><br></p>

  • yuvitec

    09 December, 2018 - 3:08 am

    <p>nice articel about <a href="https://www.knowledgeking.tk&quot; target="_blank">Windows lite.</a></p>

  • mano793

    26 December, 2018 - 12:59 pm

    <p>Nice post. <a href="https://etechnog.blogspot.com/2018/12/difference-between-compiler-and-interpreter.html&quot; target="_blank">Compiler vs Interpreter </a></p>

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