Windows 10 Version 1803 to be Called the Spring Creators Update

Windows 10 Version 1803 to be Called the Spring Creators Update

Microsoft has still not officially announced its branding for Windows 10 version 1803. But now we know the real name.

And yes, it’s the Spring Creators Update. Sorry. If it helps, yes, this is my fault. Someday I’ll tell that story.

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But as I’ve pointed out in the past when others complained about this groan-inducing re-use of the same name over and over again, it makes sense. Spring Creators Update is consistent with the naming used for previous two Windows 10 feature updates.

Many will complain, naturally. That’s what we do.

Spring isn’t Spring in some parts of the world, for example. Spring doesn’t help identify the year, either. What’s Microsoft going to do for Windows 10 version 1903? Call it the Spring Creators Update … again?

Sure. Why not?

After all, Xbox reuses Spring and Fall in its own system updates, and it never makes any mention of the year. And more to the point, Spring Creators Update is just the name of the update, it’s not really the name of the resulting Windows 10 version. The real name of this thing is Windows 10 version 1803. That name is cast is stone, and it cannot be confused for other Windows 10 versions.

More to the point, when it comes to Windows 10, we have plenty of real issues to raise, and the name of a single feature update, or even the overarching product branding that Microsoft uses across multiple features updates, simply doesn’t crack the list. It’s just not that important.

Anyway, we learned about the naming when The Walking Cat on Twitter asked about how Windows 10 version 1803 identifies itself internally via PowerShell. The answer? The Windows 10 Spring Creators Update.

Get used to it. Fall will arrive eventually, and then we can start complaining again.

 

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  • Pbike908

    08 March, 2018 - 9:12 am

    <p>When it is supposed to be rolled out?</p>

    • Dan1986ist

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:19 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251393"><em>In reply to Pbike908:</em></a></blockquote><p>Most likely it will be finish this month, and rollout to everyone in April. </p>

      • Paul Thurrott

        Premium Member
        08 March, 2018 - 9:44 am

        <blockquote><a href="#251399"><em>In reply to Dan1986ist:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yep</p>

    • dontbe evil

      08 March, 2018 - 9:19 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251393"><em>In reply to Pbike908:</em></a></blockquote><p>april</p>

  • Bart

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 9:15 am

    <p>Still not convinced about the 'Creators' part in the name, but Spring-update and Fall-update will do just fine. Fits nicely in the whole 'Windows-As-A-Service thinking'.</p>

    • woelfel

      08 March, 2018 - 9:20 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251395"><em>In reply to Bart:</em></a></blockquote><p>I agree. Doing it just like Xbox makes the most sense. But at the end of the day, it's just a name. </p>

      • Paul Thurrott

        Premium Member
        08 March, 2018 - 9:44 am

        <blockquote><a href="#251404"><em>In reply to woelfel:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yep. Exactly.</p>

      • lwetzel

        Premium Member
        08 March, 2018 - 10:49 am

        <blockquote><a href="#251404"><em>In reply to woelfel:</em></a></blockquote><p>But it is interesting to watch reactions…..People Complain about anything.</p>

  • Tony Barrett

    08 March, 2018 - 9:20 am

    <p>Are MS still ramming this 'creators' thing down people's throats? I'd say 99% of Windows users don't create anything and never will. They logon, start Chrome and consume, and they don't need Windows for that, which many will eventually realize! </p><p>Just call it the 'Spring 2018 Update', then follow that with 'Fall 2018 Update'. At least you'll have consistency.</p>

    • irfaanwahid

      08 March, 2018 - 9:38 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251403"><em>In reply to ghostrider:</em></a></blockquote><p>I still create desktop apps for many customers. I know many other who do so..</p>

  • SmokingNuns

    08 March, 2018 - 9:22 am

    <p>To me this is simple, remove all the extra wording and just call it Spring 2018, Fall 2018, Spring 2019, etc….</p>

    • Winner

      08 March, 2018 - 1:21 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251405"><em>In reply to SmokingNuns:</em></a></blockquote><p>MS doesn't believe in simplicity.</p>

  • Gardner

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 9:24 am

    <p>Active Spring Creator's Update Powered by Bing</p>

  • irfaanwahid

    08 March, 2018 - 9:41 am

    <p>Paul, do let us know when the magic window happens where Insider Build and RTM align and you can opt in to Windows Insiders and get the RTM version and opt out.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:44 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251409"><em>In reply to irfaanwahid:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yeah, I've been watching for this. I bet it happens in the next two weeks.</p>

  • rob_segal

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 10:08 am

    <p>So, we can look forward to RS5 being called the Fall Creators Update 2: The Quickening. </p>

    • JerryH

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 10:49 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251424"><em>In reply to rob_segal:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Maybe <em>Fall Creators Update 2: The wrath of (Philippe) Kahn</em>?</p>

      • rob_segal

        Premium Member
        08 March, 2018 - 12:40 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#251441"><em>In reply to JerryH:</em></a></blockquote><p>They can ditch the number and call it Fall Creators Update Into Darkness.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:23 pm

      <p><a href="#251424"><em>In reply to rob_segal:</em></a></p><p>Fall Repetitive Update.</p>

  • madthinus

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 10:21 am

    <p>Actually, just drop the creators part. </p>

  • jchampeau

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 10:22 am

    <p>My answer to the "why not" question is this: Complexity and ambiguity are the enemies of security. In a big organization, when a non-technical auditor or compliance person asks if the Windows desktops in the organization are running the "Creators Update," both their question and the answer to it <em>could</em> be misunderstood. It could be argued that in that case the auditor should be asking about versions by number instead of name, but we're all busy and some people are more likely than others to understand the differences. Using the same name for different things is not intuitive, so intuition isn't necessarily a good guide for that non-technical auditor. If they'd called 1709 the "Mixed Reality Update" and 1803 the "Timeline Update," it would make things simpler and remove the potential ambiguity.</p>

    • Siv

      08 March, 2018 - 7:05 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251430"><em>In reply to jchampeau:</em></a></blockquote><p>I don't know why they can't just say Windows 10 Update 5 or whatever number of major updates we are up to now?</p>

  • evox81

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 10:24 am

    <p>Is the thinking that everything in the Redstone line will be "creator" focused (which hasn't really been the case), hence the continuation of the name? Once we move on from Redstone, I assume the name will change?</p>

  • slartybartmark

    08 March, 2018 - 10:40 am

    <p>It does feel a little like the kid who shows up to school one day determined to establish his or her own nickname and get everyone to call them "The Creator".</p>

  • 2ilent8cho

    08 March, 2018 - 10:45 am

    <p>If this is really the last version of Windows i wish the year would be somewhere in the name so its easier to identify that milestone, Windows 10 – Spring 2018 or Windows 10 – Fall 2018 . Its better than Windows 10 Redstone 2, whenever that was released…..</p>

  • skane2600

    08 March, 2018 - 11:15 am

    <p>I don't get why Microsoft wants to have "Windows 10" be the "final" version of Windows but then use all these foofoo names for updates. </p>

    • RM

      08 March, 2018 - 2:10 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251449"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a> "Windows 10" is the products branding, it is no longer "Windows". So, "Windows 10" is not a version, it is the brand name. So, 1803 is the next version of the "Windows 10" product.</blockquote><p><br></p>

      • skane2600

        08 March, 2018 - 6:39 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#251540"><em>In reply to RM:</em></a></blockquote><p>"Right now we're releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we're all still working on Windows 10." – Jerry Nixon at Microsoft Ignite 2015.</p><p><br></p><p>Where's the "branding" language? In any case after many years of naming their OS as "Windows &lt;version&gt;" the general public isn't going to consider "Windows 10" to be a brand rather than a just the newest version of Windows. </p><p><br></p><p>I suspect that if Windows is still an important OS in 10 years we'll be seeing a name change. After all, new CEOs have to make changes to prove their doing something for their absurd compensation. </p>

        • hrlngrv

          Premium Member
          08 March, 2018 - 9:05 pm

          <p><a href="#251639"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></p><p>I'm more cynical than you. I figure when Windows ceased being the biggest cash cow in the Redmond pasture, MSFT lost all interest in spending even trifling amounts on new names.</p><p>If PWAs take off the way many here believe they may, no mass market OS will be important in 10 years. Windows and macOS may still be important in some workplace segments, and Windows and Linux will still be major server OSes (and that'd mean Linux would still be a desktop option).</p>

          • skane2600

            09 March, 2018 - 3:33 pm

            <blockquote><a href="#251661"><em>In reply to hrlngrv:</em></a></blockquote><p>Windows might not be Microsoft's biggest cash cow at this point, but it's still a big cash cow. </p><p><br></p><p>PWAs will just be another hyped approach like "Responsive Design". There have been many in the past and there will be many in the future. </p>

  • Darekmeridian

    08 March, 2018 - 11:23 am

    <p>If the naming of a computer operating system bothers you so much, then you need to get out and re-evaluate your life.</p><p><br></p><p>I couldn't care less if they called it Windows popo-caca as long as they fix the crap that's broken.</p><p><br></p>

  • AnOldAmigaUser

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 11:23 am

    <p>Now that we have a Creators Update, a Fall Creators Update and a Spring Creators Update, they will either have to change the release schedule to other seasons (Winters coming…), or add the year to the name. How creative.</p>

    • stvbnsn

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 12:19 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251452"><em>In reply to AnOldAmigaUser:</em></a></blockquote><p>So next year we get the Summer Creators Update, and the Winter Creators Update. Then they really have to get creative, the Vernal and Autumnal Creators Updates, Blossom and Harvest Creators Updates!</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:16 pm

      <p><a href="#251452"><em>In reply to AnOldAmigaUser:</em></a></p><p>Following MSFT's US-centric perspective, they could call the fall 2018 version <em>Midterm Creators Update</em>. Or perhaps MSFT could go for campy, <em>Satya's Surprise</em>, or archy sarcastic, <em>Nadella's Nadir</em>.</p>

      • AnOldAmigaUser

        Premium Member
        09 March, 2018 - 5:20 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#251665"><em>In reply to hrlngrv:</em></a></blockquote><p>Only a committee could come up with these names; but, seriously, a lot of highly paid people probably had to sign off on the choice. Makes one wonder.</p>

  • davidblouin

    08 March, 2018 - 11:30 am

    <p>Still better than a dessert name…</p>

    • NT6.1

      09 March, 2018 - 2:52 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251454"><em>In reply to davidblouin:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>There's nothing more stupid than:</p><p><br></p><p>Creators Update</p><p>Fall Creators Update</p><p>Spring Creators Update</p><p><br></p><p>To make everything even more stupid, none of these versions come with true "creators" applications.</p>

    • Tony Barrett

      12 March, 2018 - 8:54 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251454"><em>In reply to davidblouin:</em></a></blockquote><p>Disagree. The Android 'desert names' are just a light hearted bit of fun. MS take all their naming so seriously it's ridiculous. Honestly, to say they want to 'empower everyone to create and do more with Windows' – what utter tosh. Windows is the same as it's always been, just with more bloat. It's an app launcher and nothing more.</p>

    • davidblouin

      12 March, 2018 - 3:37 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251454"><em>In reply to davidblouin:</em></a></blockquote><p>Congratulation to you both guys, you turn this conversation into a "i like this color and you like that color because you're a this or that…"</p>

  • MarkH

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 12:18 pm

    <p>Don't know as I'll feel comfortable calling it "Creators" anything until we first get the "Copy Paste Works Right Update"</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:13 pm

      <p><a href="#251494"><em>In reply to MarkH:</em></a></p><p>There you go: <strong><em>creators</em></strong> don't copy and paste.</p>

  • Oasis

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 12:56 pm

    <p>Windows 10 – 2018 Update 1 – end of problem….</p>

  • Winner

    08 March, 2018 - 1:20 pm

    <p>You make up jokes for things like this, but then they become true.</p>

  • joeaxberg

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 1:41 pm

    <p>If I'm not a creator can I just skip the update then? Since, you know, it's for creators only.</p>

  • RM

    08 March, 2018 - 2:08 pm

    <p>Makes since to me, they are not working on two spring versions of Windows 10 at the same time (not actually developing it at least).</p><p><br></p><p>I know some people don't like it because any reference to it must mean it is the version. Some people still think "Windows 10" is a version of Windows, but it is not. "Windows 10" is the new brand name of the production, it is no longer just "Windows". So, if the rebrand "Windows 10" in the future, it will likely not be "Windows 11". Probably "WindowsOne" or something completely different, if ever.</p>

  • Rycott

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 4:24 pm

    <p>It's understandable they called it this though. Until someone let's Microsoft know that the rest of the world actually exists how would they know that it'll be Autumn in some places.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      08 March, 2018 - 9:12 pm

      <p><a href="#251578"><em>In reply to Rycott:</em></a></p><p>In some ways, MSFT is the most 'Mr'kin company there is. Why should it pay any attention to anything outside the lower 48?</p>

    • jrickel96

      09 March, 2018 - 12:25 am

      <blockquote><a href="#251578"><em>In reply to Rycott:</em></a></blockquote><p>It is will be, but about 90% of the Earth's population lives in the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of Asia is in it. 2/3 of Africa. The Southern Hemisphere is most of South America, Australia, and a bunch of islands. Less than a billion people live in the Southern Hemisphere. </p>

      • hrlngrv

        Premium Member
        09 March, 2018 - 1:15 am

        <p><a href="#251729"><em>In reply to jrickel96:</em></a></p><blockquote>. . . Almost all of Asia . . .</blockquote><p>Only if the Maldives are part of Asia. Technically, Indonesia is part of Oceana, not Asia. The southern tip of the Malay Peninsula is still north of the equator. As for what's in the Southern hemisphere, you omit sub-Saharan Africa, and Africa is the 2nd most populous continent.</p>

  • glenn8878

    08 March, 2018 - 7:06 pm

    <p>I wish they go back to numbers, any numbers. 10v1803 works better. Or 10.18. </p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    08 March, 2018 - 8:53 pm

    <p>Why keep calling it <em>Windows</em>? Just call it <em>Creators' OS</em>. Transform a rut into a new path forward.</p>

  • MutualCore

    08 March, 2018 - 11:55 pm

    <p>The hypocrisy of the MS-reamers who have no problem with Apple naming their releases after big cats or California landmarks.</p>

    • skane2600

      09 March, 2018 - 3:27 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#251720"><em>In reply to MutualCore:</em></a></blockquote><p>Why would Windows users care what naming convention an OS they don't use adopts? Besides it's not as if Apple names all of their OS versions after the same big cat in the manner of "Windows 10".</p>

  • Daekar

    09 March, 2018 - 5:54 am

    <p>You really have to wonder who is driving the boat over there sometimes. </p>

  • BMcDonald

    09 March, 2018 - 1:48 pm

    <p>I still want to know exactly WTF this has to do with "creating" anything? Who are the Creators exactly? </p><p><br></p><p>What is wrong with Windows 10 Spring 2018 Update? At least I can place it in time easily.</p>

  • shameermulji

    09 March, 2018 - 2:19 pm

    <p>Why not just use the numbering system Apple uses for macOS (ie: 10.1, 10,2, 10,3, etc..)?</p>

  • NT6.1

    09 March, 2018 - 2:45 pm

    <p>Windows 10 is really lost. Time to scrap everything and start over with Windows 7.</p>

  • TroyTruax

    09 March, 2018 - 3:03 pm

    <p>The Windows 10 forever thing is all about the enterprise. They are trying to get enterprises used to the idea of regular updates. Most conservative companies will never upgrade to the latest version of Windows (in fact many will hang on to their version of Windows until Microsoft rips it from their hands). You have to make those version numbers disappear. The plan is to finally get these companies on Windows 10 and hope that they don't think of Spring and Fall updates as new versions. How many "emergency" upgrades from Windows 7 will we see in 2020?</p>

  • darkgrayknight

    Premium Member
    12 March, 2018 - 3:27 pm

    <p>There should be two more tabs in the comments here, like Premium Complaints and Standard Complaints ;-)</p><p><br></p><p>Any way, they could call this update some dessert, as it really doesn't matter.</p>

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