Microsoft Explains Windows 10 Redstone 4 Delay, Issues New Build

Microsoft is today releasing a new build of Redstone 4 to Windows Insiders in the Fast Ring today. Build 17134 is being rolled out to Insiders in the Fast Ring today after delaying the public release of Redstone 4.

Microsoft was supposed to release build 17133 — the rumoured, initial RTM build of Redstone 4 — to the public last week. However, the company internally demoted 17133 as the RTM build after finding a breaking bug. In a blog post today, the company noted that build 17133 included critical reliability issues that resulted in a higher percentage of BSODs on PCs which led to the delay.

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“Instead of creating a Cumulative Update package to service these issues, we decided to create a new build with the fixes included. This just reinforces that Windows Insiders are critical to helping us find and fix issues before releasing feature updates to all our customers so thank you,” Microsoft’s Dona Sarkar said in a blog post, explaining all the drama surrounding the Redstone 4 delay. Of course, it is possible there is a bigger reason behind Microsoft delaying the Redstone 4 release, but I personally don’t want to start any conspiracy theories for the time being.

Either way, Build 17134 will most likely be the Redstone 4 RTM now unless Microsoft runs into another blocking bug. Redmond is expected to start a public rollout of Redstone 4 by the end of this month, although that could change anytime.

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  • madthinus

    Premium Member
    16 April, 2018 - 6:22 pm

    <p>I am surprised they did not roll this out to all rings today. </p>

    • will

      Premium Member
      16 April, 2018 - 6:27 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263241"><em>In reply to madthinus:</em></a></blockquote><p>I think if things go smooth, and telemetry looks good, that Insider Slow will get it before the end of the week with Release Preview either this weekend or very early next week. Could be faster if they have high confidence.</p><p><br></p><p>The good news is with this build they were able to roll up a few more bug fixes into a newer build.</p>

  • Dan1986ist

    Premium Member
    16 April, 2018 - 6:33 pm

    <p>So would those would left the Insider Program thinking that 17133 was it have to rejoin Insiders, and get this new build? </p>

    • unfalln

      16 April, 2018 - 6:57 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263247"><em>In reply to Dan1986ist:</em></a></blockquote><p>Who knows, 17133 might be a very important build to keep and compare to the future!</p>

    • IanYates82

      Premium Member
      16 April, 2018 - 6:58 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263247"><em>In reply to Dan1986ist:</em></a></blockquote><p>Good question! </p><p>I was going to do the whole magic window thing, but then couldn't be bothered as I was travelling last week and realised I'm not young enough to get excited about a new release anymore ?</p><p><br></p><p>Glad I didn't find the enthusiasm cause being in that conundrum would annoy me all day </p>

    • johnbaxter

      16 April, 2018 - 7:29 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263247"><em>In reply to Dan1986ist:</em></a></blockquote><p>I don't know, but I did jump back on the Insider train–at the Release Preview level–Friday on two machines, and successfully received the cumulative update. Now that there is a new build, I'll wait until it makes it to slow and release preview, then jump off again. (It's not tragic to get trapped at release preview if that happens, but I have to be off the Fast or Slow train.)</p>

  • david.thunderbird

    16 April, 2018 - 6:46 pm

    <p>"O" this smells. <strong>harrumph</strong><strong style="color: rgb(106, 106, 106);"> musta been a </strong><strong>stink</strong><strong style="color: rgb(106, 106, 106);"> bug…</strong></p>

  • NextWithoutFor

    16 April, 2018 - 6:46 pm

    <p><em style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Microsoft is today releasing a new build of Redstone 4 to Windows Insiders in the Fast Ring today. Build 17134 is being rolled out to Insiders in the Fast Ring today after delaying the public release of Redstone 4.</em></p><p><br></p><p>Mehedi, you are repeating yourself. Does Paul pay you by the word? This isn't freshman composition!</p>

    • Mike Cramer

      17 April, 2018 - 6:15 am

      <blockquote><a href="#263252"><em>In reply to NextWithoutFor:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Are you a racist?</p>

      • Lauren Glenn

        17 April, 2018 - 6:44 am

        <blockquote><a href="#263385"><em>In reply to Donkey_Gas:</em></a></blockquote><p>How is that a racist comment?</p>

      • NextWithoutFor

        17 April, 2018 - 11:34 am

        <blockquote><a href="#263385"><em>In reply to Donkey_Gas:</em></a></blockquote><p>No. Love you. </p>

  • skane2600

    16 April, 2018 - 7:05 pm

    <p>I don't understand Microsoft's strategy with respect to insider builds. Rather than risk appearing to be late delivering certain features, why not wait until those features are actually implemented and you're ready to release before announcing anything? IMO, what is released in an Insider build and when it is released is entirely disconnected from the bottom line. These are self-inflicted PR problems.</p>

    • warren

      16 April, 2018 - 9:45 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263260"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>What's the actual upside to being surprised by new features in your OS?</p><p><br></p><p>How does this help enterprise customers, developers, enthusiasts and IT support types who all benefit from having the additional time to learn about new features?</p><p><br></p><p>Even Apple has had a long-standing tendency towards showing or talking about new features well in advance of RTM.</p>

      • skane2600

        16 April, 2018 - 10:35 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#263305"><em>In reply to warren:</em></a></blockquote><p>"What's the actual upside to being surprised by new features in your OS?"</p><p><br></p><p>I'd say it has little significance one way or the other unless those features are very complex and difficult to learn. In any case, I didn't criticize announcing features prior to RTM but rather announcing features and target dates for the incomplete releases of the Insider program.</p>

    • Maverick010

      16 April, 2018 - 10:46 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#263260"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a> Actually I would say this latest major Windows 10 update version 1803, was more about stabilizing the OS, under the hood improvements, and making the OS GUI more consistent with the Fluent Design language, as the only major feature in this update was Timelines. Everything else was more of minor updates and consistency in the OS.</blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>I am even wondering if RS5 will have any major features and updates, as so far the only big feature is Sets. It may too be more about polishing and under the hood improvements for Windows 10, but take into mind, that I haven't really read much about let alone play with RS5 and Build hasn't happened yet, so more announcements may still come, but IMO, this may be the year Microsoft concentrates more on polish and under the hood updates to Windows 10, to stabilize it and make it more consistent. That so far seems to be the theme with iOS and Android from rumors.</blockquote><p><br></p>

    • dontbe evil

      17 April, 2018 - 4:27 am

      <blockquote><a href="#263260"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>except it was never announced an released officially to the public from Microsoft … only to insiders</p>

      • skane2600

        17 April, 2018 - 11:19 am

        <blockquote><a href="#263369"><em>In reply to dontbe_evil:</em></a></blockquote><p>Your distinction isn't very meaningful. Anyone can read the blog post that describes the change in plans, not just insiders. In any case, the fact that we are discussing a delay at all suggests that MS's reputation can be harmed (if only among insiders) by premature announcing/scheduling of insider releases.</p>

  • BeckoningEagle

    Premium Member
    16 April, 2018 - 8:35 pm

    <p>They should now change it to 1804</p>

  • Dan1986ist

    Premium Member
    16 April, 2018 - 9:17 pm

    <p>If anyone else has a 64 GB or 32 GB Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet in Insider Fast Ring have upgraded from 17133 to 17134, did you get a Driver PNP Watchdog GSOD during the Offline portion of the upgrade process? I got it on mine which rolled back to 17133. </p>

  • LordPhantom

    18 April, 2018 - 7:31 pm

    <p>I haven't been able to get 17134.1 to install on my Surface Pro, it keeps failing every time. Doesn't seem a widespread issue but there are a few feedbacks about it, so I'm not the only one. </p>

    • LordPhantom

      18 April, 2018 - 8:13 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#264073"><em>In reply to LordPhantom:</em></a></blockquote><p>Complaining on the internet is magic. After I posted this, the most recent attempt has got to the "pending restart" stage. Fingers crossed….</p>

  • epguy40

    19 April, 2018 - 12:37 pm

    <p>well Mehedi the Windows 10 RS4 release will get delayed even further as another serious bug was recently discovered in build 17134. I saw this story on neowin</p><p><br></p><p>www.neowin.net/news/another-windows-10-bug-in-build-17134-may-again-delay-the-april-2018-update</p><p><br></p><p>so the release could be delayed until sometime in May.</p>

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