https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-craig-federighi-ipad-bad-computer-replacement-2018-6?r=US&IR=T&IR=T
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327127">In reply to tradikal:</a></em></blockquote><p>If a trackpad is a touchscreen, my desk is a mousescreen. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327347">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yes, I was being a bit sarcastic, but to qualify as a "something"screen, there has to be a screen.</p><p><br></p><p> From a practical POV, the difference between a trackpad (or a mouse for that matter) and a touchscreen is that with the latter you are performing an action that is very like a real-world behavior, you are bringing your finger to touch something and your eyes are following your finger to guide it to the target. You lose that natural real-world action when using a pointing device. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327353">In reply to AnOldAmigaUser:</a></em></blockquote><p>I think it makes sense that when one is in consumption mode, a touchscreen may be preferred by some, but I doubt many people use it exclusively unless consumption is all they do. Personally I find switching between a mouse and a touchscreen to be a distraction, but I'm sure others see it differently.</p>
skane2600
<p>I agree with his assessment, but I'm not sure if it is "unwitting". </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#326874">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>Except that Most people aren't using Android and iOS for those things that people traditionally use PCs or Macs for. Android may support a mouse, but how many people use it on Android devices? Probably less than 1% and they're probably geeks who are a much tinier "minority" than people whose needs can be filled by cell-phone-centric operating systems.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327735">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>Given the fact that Android has close to zero presence in productivity environments, the inevitability of them taking over that space is wildly speculative at best. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327240">In reply to ErichK:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's also worth noting that the Apple faithful didn't write-off the Mac when it's already small market reached it's low point prior to the iPod. Windows would have to decline a very long time to reach a similar market share.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327425">In reply to curtisspendlove:</a></em></blockquote><p>I don't know much about Mac culture. Are there "new school" Mac users?</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#326912">In reply to curtisspendlove:</a></em></blockquote><p>I think it's just as likely that many people never needed a PC, so they never bought one.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#326811">In reply to AnOldAmigaUser:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yes, it was a really a dumb ad since it's not believable that a kid wouldn't know what a computer is. I'm sure that it's no accident that "comments are disabled" for that video.</p>
Bats
<p>With regards to the second bullet point "We really feel that…..," I understand that. I use a 27" HP Envy AiO PC and I rarely, rarely touch the screen. However, you know what? It's nice knowing that I can. I don't understand, why can't Apple just do it. So what if it's a pretty fatiguing thing to do? If the user wants to do it, then let him/her. It's like saying, we're not going to install an air conditioning unit in your car, because you could just roll down your windows, plus it's guzzles down more gas and is bad for the environment. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#326914">In reply to Michael_Miller:</a></em></blockquote><p>Of the three you mentioned, only the iPhone is an unquestioned sustained success. Like all Macs, the MacBook is only a moderate success compared to the market share of competing products. I think the iPad hasn't met Steve Job's expectations which were to usher in a new Post-PC era that never materialized. </p><p><br></p><p>That's not to say that the MacBook or iPad are bad products.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327134">In reply to Michael_Miller:</a></em></blockquote><p>In the context of Post-PC, its iPad vs all computers running Windows, MacOS, and Liinux. When it comes to devices in that group, MS is a relatively minor player.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327311">In reply to MikeGalos:</a></em></blockquote><p>You misunderstood me. I said MS is a relatively minor player in "devices", not operating systems. In other words there are far more Windows desktops, laptops, etc sold by other companies than are sold by MS.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327346">In reply to Daekar:</a></em></blockquote><p>I guess amazement is in the eye of the beholder. I'm amazed when people talk about Android as if it were a viable productivity platform.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327416">In reply to Daekar:</a></em></blockquote><p>Certainly compatibility with existing standard programs is an issue. A windowing environment that wasn't designed around multiple overlapping windows. A limited ability to automate applications. Killing apps when the system decides to kill them rather than when the user decides. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#327479">In reply to BlackForestHam:</a></em></blockquote><p>But to "replace" something requires that you had the replaced item in the first place and that you no longer use the item that was replaced. Many people who never owned a PC or Mac own iPads and many people who own IPads are still using PCs and Macs. </p>