Samsung has an edge over Apple?

Apple definitely surprised me with its results in Q3. But looking at this chart, I was left wondering if Samsung is at a much higher ground with skyrocketing semiconductor sales! Especially after taking down even Intel Corp. 

Conversation 11 comments

  • jimchamplin

    Premium Member
    11 August, 2017 - 7:01 pm

    <p>Samsung builds everything from televisions and refrigerators to semiconductors to <em>air defense missile systems</em>. That their revenues are an order of magnitude higher isn't very surprising.</p>

  • rameshthanikodi

    12 August, 2017 - 5:30 am

    <p>As already mentioned, Samsung is an absolute monster, they make everything from dishwashers to military hardware like tanks and cranes. There's no comparing them to Apple.</p>

  • Angusmatheson

    13 August, 2017 - 10:14 am

    <p>But their phone sales have been surprisingly strong, given that a year ago they there shipping a phone that exploded and were slow to recall it. I thought that was the end of Samsung, but no people keep buying them. My guess: the newest Galaxy is beautiful and looks like no other phone with the curved edges, there are real Samsung fanbois who will buy their stuff like sheeple, the low market stuff just gets bought without much attention if though or connection to what is or isn't happening upmarket (this is the one I'm least sure of). And this is a time when being a conglomerate is a good thing. If phones are off for a year or two because of a scandle, they have the rest of the company to support it. Apple cannot do that. I do wonder what effect on the company their CEO (or whatever title the son of their founder has) going to jail for bribery will have.i suspect that will have more long term impact.</p>

    • jboman32768

      Premium Member
      28 August, 2017 - 9:32 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#166347">In reply to Angusmatheson:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I think you have to realise the Samsung flagship phones are the best fit for people in the Windows ecosystem. Samsung provides great looking, performant phones with OLED screens and features for Windows users like taking calls from your PC and managing notifications that iPhone users only get if they are using a Mac. Samsung phones work with Microsoft Display adapters (Miracast) where Google blocked this in software from theor Pixel line. I only need one pair of headphones at work to take/make phone calls, talk on Skype for Business and listen to music. The choice is obvious for a Windows user wanting to get stuff done. You dont have to be a fanboi to buy a Samsung – just rational.</p>

      • Angusmatheson

        09 September, 2017 - 1:50 am

        <blockquote><em>In the mobile space, I find Samsung's dominance in the high end fascinating. It clearly is awesome for you, but I suspect most Samsung users don't use the features you describe (like most iPhone users don't have a mac and use the the mac version). There seem to me a lot of awesome Android phones – I love HTCs, the Nexus great, even Sony and LG. But Samsung is so dominant in high end (and does great at low end too). I'm sure google hates one big player. Google's fear, could Samsung switch to Tizen? I have never met a HTC fanboi, but there are lots of Samsung fanbois. I have never fully understood why, when Android runs them both and the reviews of all the high end smartphones say they are pretty equally great does Samsung continue to dominate. <span style=" display: inline"></span></em><a href="#169116"><em>In reply to jboman32768:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • jboman32768

          Premium Member
          11 September, 2017 - 1:11 am

          <blockquote><a href="#175086"><em>In reply to Angusmatheson:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Good question: Why does Samsung do better than HTC? – Not sure but suspect t could be either their bigger ecosystem of devices, or their familiarity with retail distribution that gives them the edge. I think also its fairl to say that while neither have great software Samsung software at least provides greater utility than on the HTC side.</p><p><br></p><p>Pn the other point – I don't think Samsung could ever move completely to Tizen – but I do think the reason Samsung has its own suite of Apps is that it would sorely like to move to the Open Source Android which is devoid of all of the closed-source Google services. Samsung probably has its eye on filtering and channelling users through its own app store and building its own Apple style eco system – which I don't think would ever work. I think the moment Samsung devices lose the Google Play store they would be finished – so I don't think we have to worry about that happening any time soon.</p><p><br></p>

        • Daekar

          11 September, 2017 - 1:36 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#175086"><em>In reply to Angusmatheson:</em></a></blockquote><p>I have had Galaxies for 4 years now, and now that Samsung has gone with those stupid curved screens I'm looking to switch vendors for my next phone. Literally the only thing I will miss will be Samsung Pay. It's not enough to keep me, but it will be painful to swipe my credit card again at places that don't do normal contactless payments. </p>

          • jboman32768

            Premium Member
            14 September, 2017 - 7:57 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#175659">In reply to Daekar:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I use Samsung pay all the time – but Android Pay is increasing in support and has a similar feature set. </p><p><br></p><p>FYI – its only Samsung's flagships that have slightly curved screens (much less with each new version) – they have a big range of phones to chose from that don't have this feature. </p>

  • Tony Barrett

    09 September, 2017 - 9:18 am

    <p>As other's have said, you can't even really compare Samsung to Apple. They both make mobile devices – sure, and Apple has the Mac, but that's about it. Samsung are an order of magnitude larger than Apple, with fingers in so many pies. All Apples eggs are in one basket – a pretty risky move, even if they do coin in obscene profits off very average spec hardware.</p>


    09 September, 2017 - 9:07 pm

    <p>Since you are talking about Apple on a Microsoft site. I think Apple has the upper hand. Apple people don't talk about microsoft anymore. </p>

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