Just saw a video demonstrating Mouse Support. Basically, the mouse isnt acting like a normal mouse … its acting like your finger so the same tedious crap you had to do wiith your fingers, your just tediously doing with your mouse now. For instance, there is no natural click and drag selection process that you would come to expect from using a mouse (which is one of the situations people were wanting a mouse for). Instead, You have to double tap the first word of the sentence you want to select, then you have to CAREFULLY hover your mouse over the blue dot, then you have to select and hold the blue dot and move the blue dot and release.
This is just one of the examples I saw, but it make me wonder how many other scenarios we all think a mouse funciton that acted like a normal mouse would be so much better for on an Ipad when in fact, its going to be just as tedious and aggrevating (perhaps evern more so now since they have dropped the ball)
Really Apple? What is going on there?
This was a simple thing and you F’d it up.
Thom77
<blockquote><em><a href="#433146">In reply to madthinus:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Or they half baked the implementation knowing they have 4 years to slowly get it to where it needs to be and hid it in the accessibility feature so they had the excuse you just supplied to them.</p><p><br></p><p>There is a reason they didnt mention it in their presentation. They knew the reasonable expectation of mouse support is that it … acted like a fully functional mouse … and it doesn't. </p><p><br></p><p>This company virtue signals about anything they can …. and suddenly they bypassed an opportunity to virtue signal about how they included a new feature to help handicap people who have problems moving their fingers on the screen by including a limited mouse support designed to mimick fingers on the mouse? </p><p><br></p><p>I find that very naive.</p><p><br></p><p> the NORMAL BEHAVIOR of the mouse in selected text is actually WAY EASIER then mimicking the finger manipulation on the screen to do the same thing. If they wanted to make it easier for handicapped people or older people with limited dexterity, they would of introduced the normal mouse behavior. Either way, you still have to hold a button down to slide the selected portion to where you want it… their way makes you do an extra step and precisely select the blue dot instead of just dragging where you first click all the way to the end where you want it.</p><p><br></p><p>I'm not falling for the marketing propoganda.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#433174">In reply to Thom77:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's not as if adding full mouse support is such rocket science they need years to get it right. They obviously did exactly what they wanted to do. I know some tech enthusiasts who are also Apple fans would love to see iPads transformed into laptop replacements but I suspect most iPad users are quite happy to use them as consumption devices and wonder why they would need to use a mouse.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#433432">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>Or you could just bring your laptop that can also be used for consumption. It seems like a self-inflicted problem to me. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#433535">In reply to macguy59:</a></em></blockquote><p>Has Apple released the IOS source code so a third party could do that?</p><p><br></p><p>I don't claim to be God's gift to programming but I did write an Atari 2600 game in assembly on salary back in the day – a system with 128 bytes of RAM, no code whatsoever in the console, no interrupts, no video RAM and with vertical blanking in software. So I think I could compete quite well with the average Apple internal developer.</p><p><br></p><p>BTW, I'm not dissing Apple's developers. Like I said before, they did exactly what they intended to do but had they wanted full mouse support I'm confident they could have implemented that too without too much trouble.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#433408">In reply to madthinus:</a></em></blockquote><p>So someday they can make an iOS-based Macbook (iOSBook?) that is almost as capable as one based on MacOS. What is the point? IMO Always connected will always be a niche need.</p>
PeterC
<p>As has been mentioned, they're not planning on implementing a traditional mouse, seriously, why bother. Everyone has got loads of legacy kit around, ipadOS is going forward not looking back. </p><p><br></p><p>Madthinus pointed out below its a "virtual finger" and I assume users will be wagging their finger around in front of the face id cameras in future releases (perhaps?) …. you know ipad sitting in its case/holder upright and you moving your finger on the desk…….. air gestures maybe and the same gestures drawn on a surface etc.</p><p><br></p><p>Makes sense to me….</p>
jedwards87
<p>Really whats going on is your inability to see what this feature is and isn't. </p>