From the Wall Street Journal: Huawei technicians help African governments spy on opponents
Technicians from the Chinese powerhouse have, in at least two cases, personally helped African governments spy on their political opponents, including intercepting their encrypted communications and social media, and using cell data to track their whereabouts, according to senior security officials working directly with the Huawei employees in these countries.
skane2600
<p>This is scandalous because no US tech company has ever helped the US government to spy on anyone. /s</p>
pargon
Premium Member<p>Paul has said that trump is just making stuff up, the Chinese government is wonderful and to not trust Huawei is racist, xenophobic, etc.</p><p><br></p><p>This is an inconvenient article. Wonder if Paul will comment on it lol</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449376">In reply to Pargon:</a></em></blockquote><p>The subject that has been commented on by Paul and others here is the unsupported US accusation that Huawei has placed backdoors in their equipment. Neither Paul or anyone else here have said that the Chinese government is made up of great humanitarians. </p>
PeterC
<p>Ah yes, political spying by cell phone. You do understand that this is exactly what your erstwhile Govt does daily to whoever it Chooses due to its “backdoor” relationships with ALL US TECH COMPANIES, including political leaders of allied countries? Get a grip, please.</p><p><br></p><p>This incessant US led anti Huawei/China tech propaganda is getting deeply tedious, and really boring. If I was a free thinking intelligent US citizen I’d be asking myself … “ why my govt wants to whip up such a fear based public frenzy”….. please do ask yourself this question. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
chocolate starfish
<blockquote><em><a href="#449420">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Now the Trump Administration wants to weaken end to end encryption. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449666">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>The two sides are 1: people who want to see claims backed-up by facts and 2: those who think speculation or government pronouncements are sufficient.</p><p><br></p><p>The issue was never whether Huawei was a completely honest company, it was about whether the US ban was justified. </p><p><br></p><p>I think your Verizon analogy oversimplifies what happened in <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Uganda but in any case the Russians were caught helping the Trump campaign by spying on the DNC and the consequences have been minimal. </span></p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449716">In reply to lvthunder:</a></em></blockquote><p>As I've said numerous times before, real evidence of backdoors could be revealed without any security concerns because the technology to find them has been available for many decades. </p><p><br></p><p>Creating chaos was only one aspect of the Russian campaign, they also wanted Trump to be elected. How many Russian surrogates contacted the Clinton campaign as they did Trump's? </p><p><br></p>
Thom77
<p>Google: hold my beer</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449457">In reply to terry jones:</a></em></blockquote><p>Nearly every US military action since WWII hasn't been motivated by "maintaining freedom and democracy". When "bad actors" are at the highest levels of government they can't be dismissed as irrelevant. </p><p><br></p><p>And please give us a few examples of the anti-American comments you say are rampant here. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449683">In reply to terry jones:</a></em></blockquote><p>So you have no problem with potentially accusing anyone here of anti-american comments because you don't want to call out the specific people you supposedly have evidence against? That sounds BS to me.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449686">In reply to terry jones:</a></em></blockquote><p>So your theory is that posting a comment that quotes other people's past comments which weren't deleted would itself be deleted? Doesn't really make sense, does it. Be honest, you're not producing the anti-American quotes because they're haven't been any.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449817">In reply to terry jones:</a></em></blockquote><p>The way you characterize the deletion suggests that perhaps it was warranted, but it has nothing to do with your inability to back-up your claim of anti-American comments. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449654">In reply to Waethorn:</a></em></blockquote><p>We know for a fact that the US government has spied on US citizens, we don't know that about Huawei. </p>
Bats
<blockquote><em><a href="#449657">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>What? Were you born yesterday? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Anything from China is suspect. Never trust your news from the usual tech websites. They know $#!#. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><em><a href="#449738">In reply to Bats:</a></em></blockquote><p>Please enlighten us with any <em>actual </em>facts you may have that we aren't aware of. Simply saying "Anything from China is suspect" is not a fact it's just your personal opinion. And if you want to be taken seriously, drop the insults.</p>
Bats
<p>There are two Chinese tech companies, you cannot trust. One is (of course) Huawei. The other is Lenovo. I am not super familiar with the technical aspects of the alleged malware contained in Huawei phones, but believe me……I know there is for Lenovo and it's in the bios. You people only know, not even a quarter of the story when it comes to Lenovo. I am not trying to tell you NOT to buy Lenovo products, that's up to you. But know this……if you do, you will have malware on your computer that no malware software can detect. </p>