SXM Media is #1 for podcasts

According to Edison Podcast Metrics data for the 12 months ending Q3/22. Spotify is down to #2, while iHeartMedia is #3. The data was produced by surveying 11,675 listeners from across the US. https://www.edisonresearch.com/u-s-top-podcast-networks-by-reach-q3-2022/

I was just wondering how this is possible I know they own Pandora/Sticher and SXM but how did they edge out Spotify I thought Joe Rogan was the biggest thing in podcasting. I don’t listen to him personally but kind of shocked this happened. When you think if tech companies and podcasts I don’t think of SXM personally.