OMG teh bezzals

Listening to all the talk nowadays, one would think that the most important part of a phone is the damn border around the screen. As if its size matters one whit to operating the thing.

Hi. I’m here to tell you that it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if the screen goes to the very edge with tricks of curved glass that distort the edges of the screen and break super-easily or if you’re essentially holding a small iPad. It doesn’t matter.

The only damn thing that matters is that the software performs.

It’s like the thickness of the thing. Who cares how thin it is? I don’t. I put my iPhone in a Mophie Juice Pack that has 120% extra charge. That’s a lot! I never have to worry about having enough power. Why isn’t the damn phone just nice and thick and filled with battery to start with?

Perhaps one of the places I disagree with Apple. They set an arbitrary benchmark for longevity and then they thin the thing out so much as they stick to that benchmark. If they made it thicker, it would run longer, which is actually better.

Better is better than not better.

Forget this “better is the enemy of good enough” malarky. Better is just better, and if you have the choice between thin and four day battery life, you choose the latter. That’s “working better.” And that is all that matters.

So in the end, since you can’t use a bezel… Who gives a crap? I don’t buy a phone for how it looks, but for how it works. If I cared about appearance, I wouldn’t choose the most austere and Spartan one out there. I use an iPhone because it works better for me.

Do not choose a phone based on design fads – which is all “bezel-less” is, a design fad – Choose it on how well it works for you. Be it iOS, Android, or even for you True Believers out there, the tiny scraps left of Windows 10 Mobile. Use what works best for you.

And for those of you who need to choose a phone based on design fads? Hell yes enjoy what you got! Paul, I hope you love whatever you decide on.

Because that’s all that matters.

That you like it. Good night everyone, and good luck.

Conversation 18 comments

  • wunderbar

    Premium Member
    17 September, 2017 - 10:56 am

    <p>You're both right and wrong here. You are right in that the only thing that matters is if the user likes the phone. At the core, that's all that does matter.</p><p><br></p><p>However, the market has spoken, and what users like are phones with minimal/no bezels, and to be as thin as possible.</p><p><br></p><p>So yes, you are right. It only matters if you like the phone. But overwhelmingly people want/like the things that you say don't matter.</p>

    • jimchamplin

      Premium Member
      17 September, 2017 - 11:56 am

      <blockquote><a href="#177278"><em>In reply to wunderbar:</em></a></blockquote><p>And that’s fine. My point is just that the trend has been spoken of in such absolute terms. Also, did the market speak, or is it just that the thing people are sold follows the trend?</p><p><br></p><p>I don’t care for it, personally, and I hope the option stays around for “old style” phones, the way barely anyone makes a small phone anymore. But… oh well! Eventually it’s going to get where either the trend changes again, or the hyper-delicate pieces of glass will so far outclass the easier-to-hold budget and niche models that it won’t be worth it.</p><p><br></p><p>When the technorati pick their fad, it’s hard to escape.</p>

      • Polycrastinator

        18 September, 2017 - 11:27 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#177283"><em>In reply to jimchamplin:</em></a></blockquote><p>Tell you what, if the iPhone 8 sells out, and the iPhone X is jamming the shelves because they can't get rid of them, I'll agree that you're right.</p>

        • jimchamplin

          Premium Member
          19 September, 2017 - 8:09 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#177580"><em>In reply to Polycrastinator:</em></a></blockquote><p>*prepares to be wrong*</p><p><br></p><p>You're on!</p>

        • Simard57

          20 September, 2017 - 3:33 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#177580"><em>In reply to Polycrastinator:</em></a></blockquote><p>what is the conclusion if both either jam shelves or sell out?</p><p><br></p>

        • jbinaz

          06 October, 2017 - 2:45 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#177580"><em>In reply to Polycrastinator:</em></a></blockquote><p>But if the iPhone X doesn't sell, it may not be because it has no bezels. It could be the "notch" or the price.</p>

  • Chris_Kez

    Premium Member
    18 September, 2017 - 10:02 pm

    <p>Cramming four days' worth of battery into a much thicker or larger device would impose a bulk and weight penalty <em>every single day,</em> for a feature that I might need once or twice a year. I want all the battery I need, but no more than that. </p><p>I'm no weight weenie but my beloved Lumia 920 deformed my suit pockets, while the iPhone 5 was barely noticeable. </p><p>And I have no problem with bezels, but if I could squeeze my Nexus 5X screen into my iPhone SE shell I'd do it in a heartbeat.</p>

    • jimchamplin

      Premium Member
      18 September, 2017 - 10:20 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#177574"><em>In reply to Chris_Kez:</em></a></blockquote><p>I guess that’s part of it, that it goes along with the big phone trend. It won’t be used to give a tiny phone a modest screen. Only a modest size phone a big screen.</p>

  • Rycott

    Premium Member
    18 September, 2017 - 11:03 pm

    <p>It Windows 10 Mobile wasn't a dead end I'd probably still be on it.</p><p><br></p><p>But damn if my S8 screen isn't nice. It packs more screen space in a much smaller body than my 950 XL. The 950 feels like a brick now. The S8 just fits in my hand nicer and in my pockets better.</p><p><br></p><p>I don't think the bezel-less design is a fad. I think it's going to hang around now that people are wanting bigger screens.</p>

  • Polycrastinator

    18 September, 2017 - 11:26 pm

    <p class="ql-indent-1">"Because that's all that matters." </p><p class="ql-indent-1">*to me</p><p>I disagree. I value having as large a screen as I can get, but I require that my phone fit in my pocket. Every mm of bezel is a mm of screen I don't have in the body of the device that I carry. Because it's in my pocket, I want it to be light. I can live with charging every night.</p><p>Everything is a compromise. Your use case isn't mine. I presume you carry around a ruggedized laptop because size doesn't matter? Didn't think so. I can understand your annoyance if what's being produced doesn't fit what you would like. But small bezel, thin, and light? That actually is what's practical for me.</p>

    • jimchamplin

      Premium Member
      19 September, 2017 - 8:10 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#177579"><em>In reply to Polycrastinator:</em></a></blockquote><p>Fair enough. Like I said, whatever works for you!</p>

  • jimchamplin

    Premium Member
    19 September, 2017 - 9:31 pm

    <p>Just so everyone knows, I'm upvoting all the responses to this. I wanted to be devil's advocate here, and was REAAAALLY drunk when I wrote it. I don't apologize for anything, but I'm super happy that people did reply.</p><p><br></p><p>Quite honestly, after hearing a lot of opinions, it's making me think more clearly and consider how important all this stuff is.</p><p><br></p><p>So I'll probably get an iPhone X next year when my AT&amp;T Next comes up, and still not have a "bezel-less" phone because good lookin' iOS gaussian blurs are cool to me!</p><p><br></p><p>To anyone who chooses a Galaxy Note or Galaxy S or Essential or whatever, enjoy your awesome phone! :D</p>

    • Craig Luecke

      Premium Member
      27 November, 2017 - 7:30 am

      <blockquote><a href="#178086"><em>In reply to jimchamplin:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Upvoting just because it was a drunk post.</p>

  • Wizzwith

    20 September, 2017 - 10:16 am

    <p>Wide bezels are the enemy of everything that's good in this world.&nbsp; </p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      09 November, 2017 - 5:54 am

      <blockquote><a href="#178173"><em>In reply to Wizzwith:</em></a></blockquote><p>I have problems with the relatively thin bezels on the Nexus 5X, often I will need to readjust how I hold the phone 2 or 3 times, when I am stretching my thumb across the phone to touch something, because the base of my thumb is already touching the screen.</p>

      • Chris_Kez

        Premium Member
        09 November, 2017 - 2:03 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#214243"><em>In reply to wright_is:</em></a></blockquote><p>I have a 5X also, and can't say this is an issue for me. I'm not sure wider bezels would help. Wouldn't it would just push the phone farther away, requiring you to reach even farther and again pressing the base of your thumb against the screen? You may need larger hands or a smaller phone :p</p>

  • TheJoeFin

    Premium Member
    06 October, 2017 - 3:02 pm

    <p>After the Google Pixel 2 event I found it so exhausting to hear people freak out about the bezels. To me a normal consumer I do not care about the size of the bezel at all. I want a headphone jack, not a bezel-less phone.</p><p><br></p><p>It really seems like there is a lack of innovation around phones or any compelling reason to upgrade. I have an iPhone 6 and so far see no good reason to upgrade.</p><p><br></p><p>If I ran out and got an iPhone X or S8 or Note8 for $1000 it would be an improvement in camera and a faster chip. Not worth it for me.</p>

  • AshlyThompson

    23 November, 2017 - 9:08 am

    <p>Here is from article </p><p><br></p><p>"Firstly, a bezel adds structural integrity to the smartphone and protects it from accidental bumps and drops. If its display extended all the way to the handset's sides, its glass surface would be a lot more vulnerable to cracking. Besides, bezels are there to make touchscreens easier to use. If you are not so sure about that, try the following: get your smartphone and hold it comfortably with a single hand. Now try to touch its display on the side, which is opposite of your thumb. Chances are that the lower part of your thumb will be in contact with or really close to the device's bezel, and if that were sensitive to touch, your smartphone would have a hard time registering your input properly."</p><p><br></p><p>Sounds convincing to me. But I never thought about this issue before.</p>


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