Idea for a podcast/ discussion

Just an idea and I know that you guys don’t like to talk politics but I’d really like to hear you guys opinions on social media and the recent bannings

From Brad and Paul comments on social media it pretty clear they are both liberals(although I might be wrong) but also two pretty level headed guys ( except for when it comes to the mail app.. Paul). I also don’t think to you both are quiet as left wing as say the verge.

Hopefully I won’t get hate for posting this, I’m not left wing of right wing. I don’t think trump is a literal nazi or that Hilary is a saint. I’m mainly worried about the polarisation that is occurring in society and I think technology has a massive part to play in this.

To be clear I think Alex Jones is a nasty/crazy man who said some terrible things however he is just the most high profile character to be banned from social media. Many more moderate conservatives have also been banned recently while left wing progressive voices with questionable views on race and democracy are actually allowed to work at twitter and Facebook.

Do you think that given the tech industry’s power to influence society and potential to influence elections needs to be regulated?

I hear and understand hate speech is unacceptable however who gets to decide what hate speech is? Surely a democracy needs both left and right voices to be heard equally and as social media is now the public arena for such discourse maybe it needs to be regulated by a external group and not silicon Valley which famously has a very left wing population.

We hear a lot about inclusion being high on the list of priorities for silicon Valley but maybe inclusion of ideas needs to be included too especially in the running of public forums such twitter.

Conversation 12 comments

  • Jeffery Commaroto

    06 September, 2018 - 6:58 pm

    <p>This is one of the few places I have left, especially in terms of tech commentary, that has stayed largely politics free and I would hate to see that change. I am so turned off by everyone’s constant need to tell you where they stand politically, give you their existential thoughts about society and jab at the opposing team at every turn.</p><p><br></p><p>I would love to see this place as well as What the Tech and Windows Weekly stay out of the muck.</p>

    • adamcorbally

      06 September, 2018 - 7:06 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#318416">In reply to Jeffery_Commaroto:</a></em></blockquote><p>That's fair enough and a really good point, maybe it's a bad idea. I wasn't suggesting anyone discusses there personal opinions directly more a discussion on the influence of technology on the situation</p>

      • lwetzel

        Premium Member
        07 September, 2018 - 11:03 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#318419">In reply to adamcorbally:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yeah….I doubt the discussion would stay on tech. I agree with Jeffery. There is enough back and forth on what tech hardware is best.</p>

    • lvthunder

      Premium Member
      07 September, 2018 - 11:23 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#318416">In reply to Jeffery_Commaroto:</a></em></blockquote><p>If you stay disciplined you can discuss this issue without getting political. Also you don't have to discuss these issues all the time like they do elsewhere, but every once in a while doesn't hurt. Especially if it's done here on the forums where if the discussion doesn't interest you then just ignore the thread.</p>

  • StevenLayton

    07 September, 2018 - 10:13 am

    <p>As someone who made an ill advised off topic political joke on this forum, and then quickly removed it as it upset some people, I think its probably a topic to be wary of. People have very strong feelings, and its easy for conversations to get heated. </p><p><br></p><p>But I agree with you about the polarisation&nbsp;on social media. As someone from the UK, Brexit for us is a real divider, and online conversations on social media can get heated, even with friends and family. US politics seem equally divisional at the moment, and I can imagine the same is true there.</p>

    • PeterC

      10 September, 2018 - 2:45 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#318704">In reply to StevenLayton:</a></em></blockquote><p>Agreed Steven. I'm in the UK too and the "B word" is maddening and everywhere. Its actually soooo boring to listen to replay/repeat circular arguments. Ive spent the last year either switching the radio/TV off whenever I hear it, leaving social media because of it (and google FB data privacy) – and I avoid reading media/papers that obsess about it. Instead, ive listened to alot more music, indulged in personal hobbies and even played the odd game again which i'd started to wane from. I can pop back into the "media" world once or twice a week to see what hasn't changed. </p><p><br></p><p>Where's spitting Image when you need it! This would have been the perfect backdrop for comedy writers.</p><p><br></p><p>This site is a blessing – no politics at all please, as i'd have to switch this off too then. Thanks.</p>

  • lvthunder

    Premium Member
    07 September, 2018 - 11:19 am

    <p>If done right it's more of a legal and moral discussion than a political one. It is my understanding that in exchange for not being held liable for the content on their platform they aren't suppose to make editorial decisions on content. If they do they can end up being sued like a newspaper would.</p><p><br></p><p>It is hypocritical to ban someone like Alex Jones and not ban Louis Farrakhan as well. But I don't think the issue needs to center around Alex. That's just elevates him and his vile rhetoric. It needs to center around what Google has done to Dennis Prager and PragerU on YouTube.</p><p><br></p><p>The other thing that needs to happen is when they ban someone they need to get specific about which content earned them the ban. That way the public can determine if they are being fair and applying it evenly or not.</p>

  • Brad Sams

    Premium Member
    09 September, 2018 - 12:42 pm

    <p>I can appreciate this topic but there is honestly no 'right' outcome and our podcast is very light-hearted on most things…I dont think we would win many compliments diving into politics for 1a.</p>

    • StevenLayton

      09 September, 2018 - 2:42 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#319562">In reply to brad-sams:</a></em></blockquote><p>You’re probably right. The last thing you want to be doing is building walls between you and the audience.</p>

    • pecosbob04

      09 September, 2018 - 5:00 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#319562"><em>In reply to brad-sams:</em></a><em>You and Paul could have a "Point, Counerpoint" spoof type segment ala SNL. you are too young I believe to remember these though I'm sure you can find them on You Tube. It was Jane Curtin and Dan Aykroyd iirc. Tag line "Jane you miserable slut…"</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • BigM72

    09 September, 2018 - 5:04 pm

    <p>Adam…I think if you remove the politics (left/right) from it, you have an important discussion.</p><p>These platforms are run by for-profit companies. User behaviour means these are now powerful places for discussion. We decided (as a society), newspapers were free to spout whatever they wanted to say in editorials and letters to the editor.</p><p>There is a reason why TV has a public service broadcasting. Perhaps ideas about having a public service version of Reddit or Twitter are also needed?</p><p><br></p><p>I don't have any answers but think it needs serious debating by people smarter than you and I.</p>

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