Visual Studio: Store and ARM

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eWith Windows 10 S showing the way to the future, I’m wondering if Visual Studio will be coming to the Store. That’s going to be needed, honestly, and I can imagine would be something Windows devs would love. I would. Cleanly install and uninstall VS? Heck yes.

Another question has to do with ARM. One must assume that ARM machines won’t remain “cheap alternatives” as time goes on and we’ll see stronger notebooks and even workstations. Has anything been said about VS getting a native ARM port so that it can run 64-bit?

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10 responses to “Visual Studio: Store and ARM”

  1. wunderbar

    See, I don't think Windows 10 S is for the people who are working in Visual Studio. It's for the 99.999% of the Windows users in the world who don't need a tool like that.

    • jimchamplin

      In reply to wunderbar:

      That's not the message from Microsoft at all. The point is to create a Windows SKU that points the way to a legacy-free future.

      Putting the dev tools in the Store will be required at some point. If you've never installed VS then, it might not be so clear, but it spews files like a fireman sprays water.

      • wunderbar

        In reply to jimchamplin:

        Yes. A windows sku. One of several windows Sku's.


        I highly doubt the intent is to shoehorn work that legitimately does need full Win32 style access into a Windows 10 S environment. It doesn't make sense.

        • skane2600

          In reply to wunderbar:

          Perhaps they could call UWP version Visual Studio Elements since it would be unlikely to have the full capability of the standard VS.

          • jimchamplin

            In reply to skane2600:

            Store != UWP. VS would be a Desktop Bridge app.

            • skane2600

              In reply to jimchamplin:

              Well, you mentioned the store but you also mentioned ARM. The primary supposed advantage of using the Desktop Bridge to package a Win32 app for the store is increased visibility. Obviously that's not a problem that MS faces with Visual Studio. Anyone who can't find it now isn't a credible candidate to use it. The fact that MS is offering a free upgrade from Windows S to Pro for one year and $50 thereafter suggests that they don't really think Windows S is the future of Windows in general, but instead a product to compete with Chromebooks.



              Microsoft confirmed that Windows S isn't for developers: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/05/18/will-linux-distros-run-on-windows-10-s/

          • jimchamplin

            In reply to skane2600:

            Since it would need to be a converted Desktop Bridge app, my guess is it would come with preconfigured modules. Probably only the UWP packages.

        • jimchamplin

          In reply to wunderbar:

          Future of Windows. The Future of Windows. Remember those words. That's the plan with 10 S, moving toward freedom from Legacy software. So let's look at the things required for that.

          The system will need to be able to cover all use-case scenarios from consumer to prosumer to true pro use. Right now it's not there, not suitable for prosumer or pro use but the whole idea is that's going to change. More software will transition to Store-packaged versions and will begin to integrate more UWP features and many of them (hopefully) transitioning fully to UWP.

          The legacy-based shell is going to give-way to the more modern UWP-based Cshell. Explorer will be replaced. Windows will finally be modernized and that is a GREAT THING. The excising of probably 40% of Windows and the pain that comes with it will happen on Windows S first. When it's ready and the software is there, then there won't be any reason left to choose Pro over S.

          Before then, development tools will need to be on S for pros who demand the more secure version of Windows.

      • irfaanwahid

        In reply to jimchamplin:

        What I get from Microsoft is Win 10S is for the consumers, and not Prosumers. Just like there is Win Home/Pro/Enterprise, now we have 10S targeted at home users mostly.

        For the rest of Pro/Enterprise users, we continue to use Win 10Pro and Ent. Not sure though how long this be since Microsoft's ultimate goal is to move everyone to the store and promote 10S/Windows Store.

        As for VS, it would be good to have it on store someday for clean install/uninstall. However, remember, 10S runs only UWP apps, hence VS in Store for 10S should be trimmed down to develop only for UWP and not Desktop apps or at least the Desktop apps option should be disabled.

  2. lvthunder

    I don't think Visual Studio can be a store app since you can't debug an addin you are writing if VS is in a sandbox.

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