the new version of Edge is so good but there are still many little issues, which makes me wonder, does Microsoft really care about Edge and take it seriously? Is it a high priority for them? I would hope so because having no real alternative to Chrome would be extremely bad for many reasons. Edge has such potential, I hope they are all in with it
RR
<blockquote><a href="#276969"><em>In reply to aThingOrTwo:</em></a></blockquote><p>A plebian who uses Edge here: I frankly no longer see any problem with it, very unlike 1 year ago. It actually seemed like is faster and more stable after April 2018 update, not sure if this is true, or just some sort of effect of their new Fluent Design System which is great. </p><p>But isn't FUD an old concept, at this point? What would you expect at a Google I/O presentation? </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#276969"><em>In reply to aThingOrTwo:</em></a></blockquote><p>The comment you quoted is BS. I'm not an Edge user or fan, but Edge supports the vast majority of ECMAScript 6 features. Chrome does a bit better, but doesn't support it all either. </p><p><br></p><p>https://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#277732"><em>In reply to aThingOrTwo:</em></a></blockquote><p>I guess I don't see a lot of practical difference between "missing" and "planned to be implemented some day". Nor would I consider "modern" to be limited to a just released (or perhaps not quite released – has stage 5 finished yet?) standard.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#277736"><em>In reply to curtisspendlove:</em></a></blockquote><p>The other thing to consider is how long it takes for the latest JavaScript features to be utilized by a significant number of sites even if the latest browser versions support them. If Google were to lean too hard on the "hot off the press" JavaScript features when implementing PWA, they might exclude too high a percentage of users and potentially kill the initiative. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#277451"><em>In reply to hrlngrv:</em></a></blockquote><p>I think Edge's low user share suggests that whatever power savings it provides isn't considered all that important by the market. Anyway, modest power savings would matter most to the smartphone market that Microsoft has abandoned.</p>
RR
<p>So, I see Paul posted a premium article referencing this thread. Since I can't read the premium article, I will comment on what I have been reading here:</p><p>I think what Microsoft decided with Edge is to go for the big (or differentiated) innovations rather than play small/feature catchup and the like. That's why they have tied it to Windows, because they believe that is how they best achieve that. And I think the strategy is obvious at this point, Timeline, Sets, "Edge" on mobile, M365, all that. They want to embrace and extend iOS & Android, and they want control of those desktop to mobile interfaces through their own browser etc (similar way Chrome is a gateway to Google services). Presumably having desktop Edge and the Edge team in Windows facilitates a lot of that. </p><p>In an alternate feature catchup game, Google can move just as fast, probably faster, and why would anyone switch even if they achieved parity, the power of inertia is just too great in that situation. There is that rule of thumb that to get people to switch you need to be 10X better. Of course that's almost meaningless because who can measure 10X, but you get the point. Probably the best way to attempt to be "10X" better is to rethink how a tool works. </p><p>Now all that said, the compatibility break when they launched Edge and the poor quality out the gate, is still one of the all time clusters. But today, Edge as browser is fine, ~80% of users probably would not see material difference vs Chrome if they tried it. I use it nearly 100%, and my needs are probably at least average. <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">I think an irreducible problem is how many sites optimize for Chrome, and they arent gonna do it for a browser with 4% share. </span>So, the hold back now isn't features or quality in the software itself. It's more the inherent advantages of the default choice, etc at this point. Therefore I do not believe that Microsoft putting their emphasis into a catchup game with Chrome is their best strategy forward now. </p>