Surface Devices and Windows 10 2004

It’s weird, my Surface Go received Windows 10 2004 today, but my Surface Laptop 3 is still blocked.

Conversation 32 comments

  • alsorun

    27 June, 2020 - 12:35 pm

    <p>But Surface Go 2 was offered 2004 one week ago. </p>

  • Paul Thurrott

    Premium Member
    27 June, 2020 - 1:40 pm

    <p>Surface Laptop 1 and 2 are not getting 2004 here.</p>

    • epguy40

      01 July, 2020 - 7:10 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#550264">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>try the 2004 upgrade again now as MS seems to have removed the "upgrade block" for many Surface devices effective Tue. June 29</p><p><br></p><p>www.askwoody.com/2020/microsoft-removes-windows-10-2004-block-for-surface-devices/</p>

      • DavidSlade

        Premium Member
        04 July, 2020 - 8:44 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#551441">In reply to epguy40:</a></em></blockquote><p>Surface Laptop 3 update still unavailable for me. Also a desktop actively blocked, but Surface Book 1 upgraded.</p>

        • DavidSlade

          Premium Member
          05 July, 2020 - 3:50 am

          <blockquote>I did some searching and found that my desktop has used a HASP device with aksfridge.sys driver. This is most likely blocking the update.</blockquote>

  • north of 49th

    Premium Member
    27 June, 2020 - 5:58 pm

    <p>My Surface Pro 5 is still blocked for 2004.</p>

  • kitron

    28 June, 2020 - 5:49 pm

    <p>I did not receive it for Surface Book 1 and 2. Since they are taking their sweet time I am expecting 2004 to be rock solid once it gets deployed.</p>

  • brendan_rutledge

    28 June, 2020 - 8:09 pm

    <p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Surface Laptop 3 here. I was just offered 2004 a few hours ago. I'm in the fast ring and it's build 20152.</span></p>

  • gregorylbrannon

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2020 - 9:58 pm

    <p>I have it installed on my Surface Book gen 1</p>

  • epguy40

    01 July, 2020 - 7:09 pm

    <p>this story on ZDNet recently came out – Microsoft removes the Windows 10 2004 block on Surface devices</p><p>www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-removes-the-windows-10-2004-block-on-surface-devices/</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      01 July, 2020 - 7:15 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#551440">In reply to epguy40:</a></em></blockquote><p>On some Surface PCs.</p>

    • simont

      Premium Member
      02 July, 2020 - 7:09 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#551440">In reply to epguy40:</a></em></blockquote><p>Hopefully rolling out, I just tried on my Surface Laptop 3 and still not getting it. Oh well. I will try again next week. </p>

      • ghostrider

        02 July, 2020 - 9:15 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#551520">In reply to simont:</a></em></blockquote><p>I guarantee you won't notice any difference if it updates ok. If you're running 10, you should just be grateful it's working at all – major upgrades are just a crap shoot.</p>

        • simont

          Premium Member
          05 July, 2020 - 7:21 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#551544">In reply to ghostrider:</a></em></blockquote><p>I am mainly waiting for WSL2, running 2004 on my whitebox PC, I don't notice any real differences.</p>

  • Paul Thurrott

    Premium Member
    05 July, 2020 - 9:13 am

    <p>I just checked on Surface Go 2 and 2004 is still not being offered. It's "on the way" … someday.</p>

    • epguy40

      04 August, 2020 - 8:13 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#552287">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>same thing with this lady's Surface &amp; Surface Go devices:</p><p>www.askwoody.com/2020/hello-has-anyone-seen-2004/</p><p>68+ days &amp; counting and still not getting the 2004 feature update</p>

  • DavidSlade

    Premium Member
    08 July, 2020 - 6:38 pm

    <p>Surface Laptop 3, 2004 still blocked.</p>

  • ourmaninny

    29 July, 2020 - 10:57 am

    <p>Almost August and the "May" update 2004 still is unavailable on my Surface Laptop 3. Wow.</p>

  • StevenLayton

    29 July, 2020 - 11:42 am

    <p>I'm curious. Are people just frustrated that their Microsoft devices aren't yet on the latest version (understandable) when other devices are, or that they're waiting for a specific feature the 2004 update brings?</p>

    • simont

      Premium Member
      29 July, 2020 - 11:47 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#557537">In reply to StevenLayton:</a></em></blockquote><p>For me, a specific feature – WSL2. But as its a Microsoft device, you kind of expect to get the update first, or very soon after release.</p>

      • paradyne

        05 August, 2020 - 5:27 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#557539">In reply to simont:</a></em></blockquote><p>I don't know, I don't think it's ever been the "Microsoft Way" to prioritise their devices in favour of a larger market segment.</p><p><br></p><p>Multiple times when a new version of something, or indeed Windows 10 itself originally, has been coming soon at around the same time as new hardware, the media has been full of expectation (click-bait headlines?) that it would launch 'first' on their new devices exclusively and then everyone else later, as it if were a new Android on a Pixel phone.</p><p><br></p><p>But it never happened that way. They always released to the wider audience first. It's just what MS do.</p><p><br></p><p>(Still waiting for a 2004 with WSL2 that successfully installs on my Surface Pro X. They have completely messed up the roll out there as I've downloaded it more than 10 times on Windows Update's request only for it to fail as incompatible)</p>

  • peterc

    Premium Member
    15 August, 2020 - 4:32 pm

    <p>So my Lenovo Legion is now getting Win 10 2004 today…………. but my Surface Pro 7 is still hanging out with the out crowd! Cant quite believe it ….. Who reckons I'll get to September and still be waiting? crackers.</p>

  • north of 49th

    Premium Member
    15 August, 2020 - 5:27 pm

    <p>As an update, my Surface Pro 5 got offered 2004 yesterday.</p>

    • anderb

      Premium Member
      15 August, 2020 - 8:49 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#561829">In reply to North of 49th:</a></em></blockquote><p>They must have flicked the switch for a bunch of formerly blocked devices in the last 24 hours. My very generic home build was finally offered it this morning.</p>

  • angusmatheson

    16 August, 2020 - 4:08 am

    <p>Surface laptop 3 and surface pro 7 just got offered 2004. Jumped on it. I desperately want to get it before anyone at work downloads it before they have problems. I know that what the preview channels are for. I fed s as he thay up as just a little too crazy for me after the computer is sued rondo them on melted down. Trying To explain to people why surface devices get them last is a little hard.</p>

  • simont

    Premium Member
    17 August, 2020 - 10:06 am

    <p>Surface Book 2 at the office is busy installing 2004. But my Surface Laptop 3 isn't getting it. </p>

    • epguy40

      17 August, 2020 - 7:53 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#561979">In reply to simont:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>check the "C:\Windows\appcompat\appraiser" folder, delete the APPRAISER_TelemetryBaseline_20H1.bin, APPRAISER_TelemetryBaseline_UNV.bin &amp; Appraiser_AlternateData.cab files and check for updates again.</p><p><br></p>

  • ourmaninny

    17 August, 2020 - 12:51 pm

    <p>My SL3 finally got the May update on Friday, August 14. </p>

  • epguy40

    17 August, 2020 - 7:55 pm

    <p>this article from Softpedia news was published yesterday Aug. 16:</p><p>news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-version-2004-released-for-more-users-530819.shtml</p><p><br></p><p>and check out this Reddit thread:</p><p>www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/i9zzzy/hey_x_users_2004_finally_working_for_us/</p>

  • simont

    Premium Member
    18 August, 2020 - 6:44 am

    <p>Just got offered 2004 on my Surface Laptop 3 today.</p>

  • MacLiam

    Premium Member
    23 August, 2020 - 8:12 pm

    <p>My Surface Pro (2017) — aka the SP "5" — and my new Surface Book 3 got a .NET framework update this afternoon. On restart, neither was blocked for 2004, and I was invited to download and install it.They are doing that now.</p><p><br></p><p>When 2004 was still called 20H1 and available only to insider rings, I never had significant problems with it on my test machines. But once it became available as a feature update release a few months ago, my three best machines, which never see beta releases, had major problems after installation. I rolled them back to 1909 so I could actually do some work; on one of them I had to do a clean install that cost me some files and lots of wasted time restoring the non-store apps that I use. As time went by all three were added to the block list. It continues to bewilder me how the company could have released 2004 without knowing that it wouldn't work even on so many of Microsoft's own Surface devices.</p><p><br></p><p>Memo to Mr. Nadela: A slow-rollout system release will also be slow to reveal how massive a problem you have when your internal evaluiation and quality-control processes are not up to the task.</p><p><br></p>

  • epguy40

    18 March, 2021 - 4:46 am

    <p>this person using a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 device is NOT receiving the 2004 upgrade and is still running Win10 v1909 (and it's already March 2021)</p><p><br></p><p>www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/surface-pro-4-at-1909-never-get-offered-2004/</p>

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