Surface Pro without Windows Pro?

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Was browsing the Surface site and noticed that the Surface Pro ships with Windows 10 Home?

Wha!?

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12 responses to “Surface Pro without Windows Pro?”

  1. Jackwagon

    Yeah, it's a somewhat recent development (since October of last year, give or take a month). Supposedly it comes down to the fact that the Surface division doesn't get free Windows licenses (since it's technically an OEM like Dell or HP), so they're trying to keep costs down as much as reasonably possible.

  2. jimchamplin

    Ehhhhh...


    It does feel cheap on the surface. Hard to ignore that.


    But yes... the logic does seem to make sense...


    ... at least until the moment that want to run WSL and then suddenly I need Windows 10 Pro...


    Maybe they should stop tying useful features to the damn product versions, then paying a goddamn thousand bucks for a system that comes with a version that still demands you pay extra just for the basic functions of the damn OS won't feel like such a ripoff..


    In other words, no, I don't accept it. If they sell a "Pro" system, it should come with their "Pro" OS.


    Or should we take them to task for overcharging for the Pro SKU?


    Seriously. 1) The bullshit separation of SKUs is ridiculous. 2) Selling a product with "Pro" in the name while selling a "Pro" SKU OS and then expecting people to accept marketing BS as to why you don't get the Pro Windows on the Pro Surface is class A bullshit 3) The bullshit separation of SKUs is ridiculous and it's time that Microsoft ends it.


    It used to be an understood thing that the absurd SKUs were a bad thing. That never changed. I guess it became more okay to rip the user off.

    • jean

      In reply to jimchamplin:

      couldn't possibly disagree more with "rip the user off" and the "demands" you are making: I consider "ripping the user off "when selling the majority of the customer something more expensive than they really need - say Windows Pro at a higher cost for everyone - just because less than 0.5% of the users need that functionality - if I'd need the additional functionality I'd just by the upgrade - if I don't I'd be glad to save the buck

    • Chris_Kez

      In reply to jimchamplin:

      Enterprises don't buy Surface Enterprise devices, nor does Surface Studio come with Windows 10 Studio OS. Lots of $1000+ computers come with Windows 10 Home. The "Pro" name simply differentiates it from the entry level Surface Go (and Surface 3 before that), just as the iPad Pro and iPhone Pro are distinguished from their entry-level alternatives. As a Surface Pro owner who has no need for Windows 10 Pro, I'd rather not pay extra for that license.

      Windows SKUs have been a thing for ages, and will be until Windows is within an inch of its life and no longer of value. The beauty of the PC ecosystem is its diversity. If you don't think Surface Pro offers a reasonable value-- and honestly has this line ever been about bang for the buck?-- then you have many other products to choose from.

  3. Tony Barrett

    There should just be two versions - 'Windows 10' and 'Windows 10 Enterprise'. If MS wanted to make additional features available through their store they could, and MS could also enable certain features by default to add value to their own products - or even make those features unique to specific hardware. Feature availability would be based on your activation key, or if you paid $$ for an additional feature.

    The Enterprise version would have most things turned off by default (with zero telemetry collection), but these can be enabled by the sysadmin if they want. The Enterprise version could also have more corporate focused tools in the build by default.

    I'd suggest MS give the base Windows 10 available for free, the the options chargeable. The Enterprise version would be available to customers with software assurance.

  4. crp0908

    If you want a Surface with Windows 10 Pro pre-installed, you need to search for "Surface Pro for Business."

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