Windows 10 1709 update of Media Creation Tool?

As there are those who may want to clean install Windows 10 Version 1709 on their devices as opposed to updating through Windows Update, has Microsoft updated the MCT for such people, or has an iso with 16299.15/19 been released? Anyone know for certain?

Conversation 9 comments

  • Paul Thurrott

    Premium Member
    16 October, 2017 - 1:08 pm

    <p>It should be out this week. The release is tomorrow.</p>

  • adamjarvis

    16 October, 2017 - 6:02 pm

    <p>If you right click on the downloaded Media Creation Tool exe File, click on the far right Details tab, you can check the Product version, the final version should say 10.0.16299.15. The current version (as of 16/10) is still showing 10.0.15063.0. Once the details tab is showing 10.0.16299.15 you should be good to go.</p><p><br></p><p>Oddly, there is now a special version for South Korea known as the K Edition, so the Fall Creators Update is really living up to its name, FCU K'EDition, it's very buggy out the box. </p><p><br></p><p>Windows 10 1607 is the best version, most stable version to run.</p><p><br></p><p>Remember too, it's far easier to download on a Mac or Linux as you don't have to use the crappy Media Creation Tool, and on these platforms will offer you the simpler option of downloading the ISO directly. Firefox will also resume failed downloads, so if demand is heavy on the 17/09, it's the better option IMO. MTO will often just fail, if demand is heavy.</p><p><br></p><p>If you don't have a Mac, you can use a Linux Mint Live USB to easily run Linux to download the ISO, without the hassle of Media Creation Tool. For all the effort MS put into Windows 10, the MCT is piece of crap, in software terms, by comparison.</p><p><br></p><p>The Windows Media Creation Tool is the equivalent of someone giving you a brand new iPhone/Android Phone, but skimping on the wrapping paper, and wrapping it in used newspaper, when presenting it to you. </p><p><br></p><p>Avoid the MCT tool if you can, get the ISO directly (from a valid MS Source). I've used more than 24GB of data on the day of release, and that just in failed attempts with the MTO. MTO needs lots of free disk space too to expand the compressed download, something most SSD users don't have.</p>

    • jimchamplin

      Premium Member
      17 October, 2017 - 12:41 am

      <blockquote><a href="#207836"><em>In reply to adamjarvis:</em></a></blockquote><p>Can't agree. For most people, the MCT is a great tool, since it does everything for them. I've helped numerous non-techie friends get to a clean PC just by letting them d/l the MCT and letting it go.</p>

      • adamjarvis

        17 October, 2017 - 3:11 am

        <blockquote><a href="#207868"><em>In reply to jimchamplin:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Jim, maybe you have better broadband in your part of the world, but in the UK it's mostly BT's "up to" Copper/Aluminium based ADSL/FTTC. We have about 2% actual FTTP throughout the UK. During the day, most ISPs are using Network Management. </p><p><br></p><p>Packet loss is common, of late due to Video on demand becoming popular.</p><p>The ISPs haven't really caught up with demand yet, in terms of upgrading the core/backhaul of the network.</p><p><br></p><p>The Windows 10 downloadable ISO (via Mac or LInux) is far easier to work with. The Windows 10 method via the MCT tool is clunky, just adds unnecessary complication and fails, often, such is the meme "Something Happened…"</p><p><br></p><p>MCT also causes untold amount of bandwidth hogging for ISPs, because it fails so often and in the process, restarts downloads from scratch. </p><p><br></p><p>The MCT tool can't recover for shortage of disk space (when expanding) for instance, and just fails. You need upto three times the disk space for the siize of the ISO, i.e. ~20GB free disk space for the combined 32Bit/64Bit Windows 10 ISO (6.4GB). That's a lot of free disk space to find, on devices with just a 128GB SSD.</p><p><br></p><p>My complaint is the MCT is not of the same code quality as Windows 10 itself and should be. It was built as a last minute 'hack tool' for distribution of the Windows 10 ISO and it shows.</p>

    • Lauren Glenn

      17 October, 2017 - 10:21 am

      <blockquote><a href="#207836"><em>In reply to adamjarvis:</em></a></blockquote><p>I have had 1703 on most of my machines and everything's been stable so far. </p><p><br></p><p>The best way I've found to upgrade Windows to the latest build is to always get the ISO, mount the ISO by double-clicking on it in Windows (don't use a 3rd party app as the Windows one works better), and then run SETUP.EXE</p><p><br></p><p>Updated every single Windows 10 installation this way since 1507 and it has almost always gone perfect. I think once the 1607 caused my PC to BSOD and then revert back but whatever was going on there was fixed shortly after and it was upgraded fine after that. But for the most part, it goes fine and if it doesn't, Windows fixes itself.</p><p><br></p><p>Never had a problem with Media Creation Tool but I agree that if the download fails, it starts over from 0% for some reason. But if you have a good fast connection, I never had a problem with it.</p>

      • adamjarvis

        17 October, 2017 - 11:05 am

        <blockquote><a href="#207943"><em>In reply to alissa914g:</em></a></blockquote><p>Agree in part, the simpliest way to install is to just mount the downloaded 1709 ISO directly under Windows 10 (available after 6pm UK time today, though I'd check after 5.30pm onwards)</p><p><br></p><p>Honestly though, the Windows Media Tool is a complete waste of space, an uncessary complication.</p><p><br></p><p>As stated, the MCT tool doesn't resume downloads. The main reason it fails is lack of disk space, because it downloads a compressed version, which has to be then assembed, expanded into the ISO and it doesn't do this efficiently in terms of disk space. </p><p><br></p><p>It can require up to 3x the disk space of the combined 32/64Bit 6.4GB ISO, so nearly 20GB of space, to create the ISO. </p><p><br></p><p>The clunky MCT tool completely lets down Windows 10 itself, because it's far less hassle to download the ISO from LInux or a Mac, then mount that 1709 image under Windows 10 1607/1703 as stated, to upgrade.</p>

  • IanYates82

    Premium Member
    17 October, 2017 - 10:43 am

    <p>10am PST (2.5 hours away) according to</p><p>Until then you'll still get creators, rather than fall creators.</p>

  • adamjarvis

    17 October, 2017 - 12:59 pm

    <p>It's here. 17:50hr (UK time). Windows Fall Creators Update ISO now available.</p><p><a href="; target="_blank"></a></p&gt;

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