Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 865 and 765

Posted on December 3, 2019 by Paul Thurrott in Android, Cloud, Hardware, Mobile with 11 Comments

Mobile microprocessor giant Qualcomm today announced its Snapdragon 865, which lacks 5G, and 765, which has integrated 5G.

“5G will open new and exciting opportunities to connect, compute, and communicate in ways we’ve yet to imagine and we are happy to be a key player driving the adoption of 5G around the world,” Qualcomm president Cristiano Amon said in a prepared statement. “Our Snapdragon 5G mobile platforms announced today will continue to show leadership in the industry and deliver on the promise of scaling 5G in 2020.”

Qualcomm’s 2020 roadmap for 5G in mobile devices is, perhaps, a bit surprising. Its flagship mobile chipset, the Snapdragon 865, will not ship with integrated 5G capabilities and will instead rely on an extern modem. But its mid-level Snapdragon 765 will included integrated 5G.

Qualcomm says that the 865 will utilize its Snapdragon X55 Modem-RF System, which it described as “the world’s most advanced, global 5G platform.” The firm expects the Snapdragon 865 and 765 to power the most advanced Android-based smartphones launching in 2020, regardless of whether their users will be using 4G or 5G networking.

Qualcomm also announced 3D Sonic Max, the latest version of its ultrasonic fingerprint sensor for mobile devices. 3D Sonic Max provides a recognition area that is 17 times larger than with the previous generation, which allows for better security via simultaneous two-finger authentication, increased speed, and ease of use, the firm says.

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11 responses to “Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 865 and 765”

  1. proesterchen

    Will Qualcomm be able to equal the 3+ year old A10 from the Iphone 7 this year?

    Their best-case numbers are supposed to be disclosed tomorrow, I await them with bated breath.

    • Thom77

      In reply to proesterchen:

      At least on a Qualcomm android device, simple tasks like background downloading doesnt stop while the phone's screen is off, i can access all my files and transfer files from to and from other devices with ease, i can install 3rd party apps, 'i can play my mp3's and mp4's in any app i want without literally having to copy the file into the app first, and i can play Emulators on my phone, including a PS/2 emulator which this new chipset version should excel at.

      I'm waiting with bated breath for the day i can do this on an Iphone.

  2. Jeremy Turnley

    Probably not, but performance is secondary to features now. I look forward to the iPhone 13, when Apple invents 5G.

  3. James Bickley

    Is “number of fingers needed to authenticate” going to be the next marketing thing, like “number of blades in your razor?” I look forward to the day where you need to smoosh all your fingers against the screen, as well as 2-3 fingers from your trusted friends.

  4. dcdevito

    I'd like to see Huawei respond with a Kirin equivalent.

    • wright_is

      In reply to dcdevito:

      They usually come out with theirs in the summer, with the Mate 30 range currently having its flagship Kirin 990 processor for 2019/2020, which was released in September. And Samsung, with its Exynos chips for the Galaxy S range of phone in January.

      The Kirin 990 has 10,5 milliard transistors (10,3 short scale US billion), 5G modem and a Mali graphics chip with 60% more execution units over last years model. It is built using a 7nm FinFET+ process. They don't currently use the mmWave 5G standard, but achieve 2.3Gbps download over 100Mhz spectrum. The neural processor has also been expanded to use 3 cores.

      According to Huawei, it beats Apple and Qualcomm in the ETH AI benchmarks.

      I haven't paid close attention to the Samsung Exynos, but this years models were faster than the Snapdragon 855 processors - especially in 4K video encoding (I think they could do 120fps, the 855 only 60fps), they had to throttle the chip to not make the US market versions using the Snapdragon look bad.

  5. longhorn

    5G gives incredible download speeds (as fast as servers can handle) if you stand next to the tower, but not if you hide behind a wall. Latency depends on a number of factors which seem to have less to do with 5G. So we are looking at long term evolution here. 5G seems best suited for "special environments" - at least in the short term. Radiation is likely to increase (phones need bigger batteries to power the signal). I wonder how many mice have tested this before they give it to the rats (us)?


  6. wright_is

    I'd be happy with 4G connectivity. I pay for it, but get less than Edge at work (around 128 bits per second (bits, not kilobits) on a good day).