First Ring Daily 431: Office Overload

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On today’s episode of First Ring Daily, we talk about Office, Office, and a little bit about Office.

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  • nbplopes

    14 June, 2018 - 7:50 pm

    <p>Can you please clarify <strong>why he was flat out wrong in the examples he gave</strong>? I've read your previous article and you seam to be terrible misinformed about what Electron apps are made of, what Typescript actually is, what React Native is, so on and so forth.</p><p><br></p><p>I think this is important, because you are clearly undermining that guys's ability and competence while he seams to have not said anything that wrong by any means from a technical perspective referring to the enumerated examples. And you are a well known person of the "Microsoft Press" considering your job naturally you reach far more people than the person in question. This carries a lot of power and with it a great responsibility. </p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    17 June, 2018 - 6:05 pm

    <p>Re the original justification of the ribbon being better discoverability of commands/features, somewhat BS. When the ribbon is set to autocollapsed, nothing is discoverable, and the Office 2003 &amp; prior docked toolbars would have been superior because they would have been visible. Even when the ribbon was expanded, only the items in the selected ribbon tab were visible, and everything else not.</p><p>I just don't buy the claims that the ribbon improved the situation, but it'd be necessary to test its effectiveness with 2 groups of people who never used Office or anything else like Office (in terms of UI) but were familiar with what word processors and spreadsheets do, then time how long it took one group to perform common tasks using the menu and toolbars and the other group using the ribbon. Results from that type of testing I'd accept.</p><p>[Tangent: maybe no longer available, but there were Excel MVPs who participated in USENET newsgroups for Excel who came up with numbers of steps needed to perform certain tasks in Excel 2003 and Excel 2007. In one particular case, charting, the new UI nearly doubled the number of steps, and it sure didn't help that MSFT broke Excel's macro recorder in Excel 2007. For those of us who mostly use Excel, Office 2007 was a fiasco rivaling Windows Vista Capable.]</p>

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