First Ring Daily 540: Surface Fight

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On this episode of First Ring Daily, we fight about who was right about Surface, Amazon has a number of Fire users, and giveaways are not fun.

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  • yoshi

    Premium Member
    10 January, 2019 - 1:55 pm

    <p>Don't let one person leave you feeling defeated, Paul. Most of us on here greatly appreciate you doing the contests and understand why there are restrictions on them. </p>

  • cadrethree

    10 January, 2019 - 2:00 pm

    <p>Hey Paul, thanks for your site and podcasts as they have brought years of enjoyment and info to me over the years. Your giveaway brought a lot of happiness to people. People rarely take the time to communicate the positive experiences, only the negative stuff. Keep up the good work! ?</p>

    • jdmp10

      10 January, 2019 - 2:37 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#393560">In reply to cadrethree:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Completely agree. Paul, Brad, MJ and Leo are as a collective some of the most honest and authentic people I've seen anywhere not just online and all that you guys do and how you present information is really refreshing and I appreciate what you guys do for us week in and week out. For tech enthusiasts that frequent your site, for me going a week without listening to you guys and reading your articles never happens.</p><p><br></p><p>I can feel or sympathize with our international friends though but you've more than clearly elaborated on why you've chosen not to include them this time around and you're reasons are very legitimate. For anyone that can't accept that, I can only say that I will say nothing because I have nothing nice to say to someone that can't comprehend your reasoning as anything but logical. Keep up the great work and know that we greatly appreciate your hard work on this site.</p>

  • threeoneone

    10 January, 2019 - 2:05 pm

    <p>All the work you do is greatly appreciated. Giveaways are even more work than necessary. Thanks for all you do.</p>

  • panjjj

    Premium Member
    10 January, 2019 - 2:53 pm

    <p>Your efforts are much appreciated by the vast majority I assure you. (Though I do recognize how impactful a single bad voice can have on one's day.). Cheers and good luck to all on the contest. (Tell the insulted soul from the "old world" that he or she just avoided winning and wearing that god awful sweatshirt!)</p>

  • skane2600

    10 January, 2019 - 3:21 pm

    <p>The idea that Windows on ARM exists primarily because of Surfacegate is quite disturbing. Sounds like an emotional move rather than a logical or strategic one.</p>

  • iantrem

    Premium Member
    10 January, 2019 - 3:23 pm

    <p>I once won a Microsoft Mouse from, Neowin I think. They really wanted to send it in the correct packaging but had to resort to sending just the mouse (no box) in a padded envelope because the costs, paperwork and hassle of sending just a mouse were a nightmare so I don't blame you. Microsoft themselves do many US only giveaways so I really don't blame you.</p>

  • bharris

    10 January, 2019 - 3:29 pm

    <p>For someone to be upset over not being eligible for a contest is incredible…. Just seems so petty</p>

  • tj

    10 January, 2019 - 3:53 pm

    <p>I'm just seeing if I can comment to anything.</p><p>Seems my 1st comment on todays MS Giveaway is not shown in the list. 2nd, 3rd, &amp; 4th comments not in list either. Each time <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">it will immediately be in list, then went to HOME, then check comment list, and it's gone.&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">5th try – had to type in as shown below, now my comment stays in list, I later edited the comment so it looks like what Paul wanted. Hopefully it will still be in the comment list tomorrow.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Go tablet</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">headphones</span></p><p>If I click on tj (in this comment or any of my comments), ACTIVITY tab currently shows I have 7 comments (including this one); and only 1 comment for the Surface hardware Giveaway (from 5th try)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </span><span class="ql-cursor"></span></p>

    • Chris_Kez

      Premium Member
      10 January, 2019 - 5:38 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#394254">In reply to tj:</a></em></blockquote><p>Hm. It seems like my reply to that article is not showing up either. </p>

      • tj

        10 January, 2019 - 5:57 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#394569">In reply to Chris_Kez:</a></em></blockquote><p>try putting &gt; Go tablet on one line and headphones on second line.</p><p><br></p><p>this worked for me. comment was still in the list (after going to HOME, then rechecking comment list). </p><p>Later I clicked on comment 'edit' and typed in Surface (in front of Go) and deleted tablet; then I typed in Surface in front of headphones. then I did type in 'Ugly Windows sweater (Large)' on 3rd line. </p><p>I'd bet there are other members besides us, who think they have commented for the MS Giveaway, only to find out their comment is gone (like my first 4 tries). You need to check your ACTIVITY tab (as mentioned above) to see if your MS Giveaway comment is there or not (or scroll thru 100s of comments).</p><p>THANKS Paul, Chris, Mary Jo, and Leo. I'm a new member here, but a longtime Windows Weekly and Leo viewer (Tech TV).</p>

        • infloop

          Premium Member
          10 January, 2019 - 8:20 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#394605">In reply to tj:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I wonder if it has to do with the anti-spam system in place that is being triggered by hundreds of posts with the same text.</p><p><br></p><p>There was a period recently where the site was hit hard by spammers, especially on the forums where it was full of spam posts going at least into the 10th page before you would see the legitimate ones.</p><p><br></p><p>So I am guessing it could be unintentional.</p>

          • tj

            11 January, 2019 - 8:37 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#394887">In reply to infloop:</a></em></blockquote><p>Late Thursday night my ACTIVITY Tab had 7 total comments with 1 for the current MS Giveaway. Turned my Dell on Friday morning and my ACTIVITY Tab now had 11 total comments with 5 for the current MS Giveaway, I deleted 4 of my comments for the current MS Giveaway, so now I have 8 total comments (including this one) and only 1 comment for the current MS Giveaway. </p><p>I checked Chris_Kez ACTIVITY Tab last night and his comment for the current MS Giveaway was not there; NOW IT IS THERE. THANKS midnight shift or gremlins.</p>

  • bleduc

    Premium Member
    10 January, 2019 - 6:49 pm

    <p>Great explanation of the technology node comparisons (10 nm vs 7 nm):</p><p><br></p><p><a href="; target="_blank"></a></p&gt;

  • Cdorf

    Premium Member
    10 January, 2019 - 7:54 pm

    <p>Paul – You have been nothing but clear about the giveaway from the beginning. Its amazing how people can show their worst side when they can get something for free. Just remember that most of us really appreciate the gesture from you and from Chris Cap. </p>

  • mgoldney

    10 January, 2019 - 10:10 pm

    <p>Paul, sorry you received some hate for not being able to please the entire internet. I just purchased a Premium subscription to preplace your lost subscriber. I promise I won't put any more hate on your site. Honestly I try not to put any more hate in the world as a general rule. </p><p><br></p><p>Cheers.</p>

  • c.turk

    Premium Member
    11 January, 2019 - 12:14 am

    <p>Paul, I concur with the other people commenting on this post. No matter how far backwards someone bends to please others, someone will always expect them to bend more. I also have purchased a premium subscription today since I&nbsp;enjoy your knowledge and wit you bring to what can be rather dry topics. Especially when you voice your frustrations on many topics, its the same frustrations many of us have with technology and life in general, e.g., the choice of our next cell phone, etc, etc. One last thing, I believe it would be an interesting few articles seeing how Brad sets up a home server,&nbsp;pending approval from his wife of course.</p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Sláinte</span></p>

  • maddycom

    Premium Member
    11 January, 2019 - 3:20 am

    <p>In the moment it is right, it is tech. Robo calling is not result of the original Bell System.</p><p><br></p>

  • MacLiam

    Premium Member
    11 January, 2019 - 12:21 pm

    <p>I remember when Intel was described as the company "where only the paranoid survive." For at least a couple of years it appears that those who shrug off design failures have also achieved survivor status.</p><p><br></p><p>The best Intel burn I have ever seen surfaced several years ago when some OCD chip evaluator found baked-in bad math in a newly released processor. (I remember this as the heyday of Pentium processors, but I may be wrong.)</p><p><br></p><p>I don't know if the graphic originated there, but <em>The Economist </em>illustrated their short report on the debacle with a version of the familiar sticker that read, "INSEL INTIDE." </p>

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    26 January, 2020 - 7:02 am

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