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On this live edition of First Ring Daily, Fortnite has a new side quest, the audio is working, but the Halo isnt.

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  • gardner

    Premium Member
    14 August, 2020 - 2:20 pm

    <p>I expect most actual developers would be happy with this solution: 1) Allow independent payment systems for paid in-app upgrades. 2) allow developers in-app to disclose in the app other ways to pay. 3) Allow developers control to refund customers in customer service scenarios. 4) Allow game streaming services under the same terms as movie streaming services.</p><p><br></p><p>This entire percentage thing is mostly (but not completely) about a few large companies. Small developers would love the ability to refund unhappy customers, and the presence of alternative payment methods for large developers would cause the fees to reach a market level (whatever that is, it might be 30 percent)</p>

  • Vladimir Carli

    14 August, 2020 - 5:10 pm

    <p>I'm not sure Microsoft will take a stand with Epic. They are getting the 30% fee from fortnite on Xbox, exactly as apple is doing on the apple store. If I remember correctly a while ago it was obvious that a significant portion of the growth of xbox revenues was due to fortnite</p>

  • wright_is

    Premium Member
    15 August, 2020 - 1:32 am

    <p>Huawei, and I believe Oppo, also have their own app stores on their phones. Have had for at least 3 years.</p>

  • michael_goff

    15 August, 2020 - 9:10 pm

    <p>If you believe Epic is doing this for anything other than the bottom line, I have a bridge to sell you. </p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      16 August, 2020 - 9:02 am

      Well, let’s check out that bridge then. Because you clearly do not understand Tim Sweeeney. And while you’re preparing the bridge brochure, look him up.

      • michael_goff

        16 August, 2020 - 8:57 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#561900">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Paul Thurrot when Tim Sweeney goes for Microsoft: “<strong>Tim Sweeney needs to give it a rest”</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Paul Thurrot when Tim Sweeney goes for Apple: “This guy cares about small developers. You just don’t get him” </p><p><br></p><p>Sure, Jan. I can name all of the times he’s been pro little guy. I mean, there are those Epic Store things like …. okay, I have nothing. I mean, he pays money and ensures that developers get a much smaller audience but cash? </p><p><br></p><p>I'm sure there’s something. </p>

        • Paul Thurrott

          Premium Member
          17 August, 2020 - 8:13 am

          There’s nothing quite like selectively quoting someone without the context.

          The former quote was about Sweeney going after the Windows Store, which was not a monopoly and not the only option for getting apps/games on Windows.

          The latter is about the current situation in which there are monopolies involved.

          Also, my name is spelled Thurrott.

          Also, seriously.

          • michael_goff

            17 August, 2020 - 12:47 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#561969">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>My apologies on the name. Also, there aren’t monopolies involved here either. </p>

            • Paul Thurrott

              Premium Member
              18 August, 2020 - 9:17 am

              Yes there are. 🙂

              People’s conception of what a monopoly is … is wrong.

              • michael_goff

                18 August, 2020 - 5:58 pm

                <blockquote><em><a href="#562240">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>What would you say they have a monopoly on?</p>


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