First Ring Daily 936: Apple Event Hangover

Posted on November 11, 2020 by Brad Sams in First Ring Daily, Podcasts with 6 Comments

On this episode of First Ring Daily, Apple’s event is behind us, the Xboxes are here, and opinions are shared.

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6 responses to “First Ring Daily 936: Apple Event Hangover”

  1. nbplopes

    If you go here:

    They list all the Intel models used for comparing performance.


  2. jrh

    Wow - good call on the mac Book and mac book pro with the first gen Intel Chips. Indeed they were Core Solo chips. I still have one of those with in reach of me right now.

    • Paul Thurrott

      I did own one, and then a few others as they moved up to Core 2 Duo and then added the black version.
  3. retcable

    Lots of doom & gloom coming from tech pundits everywhere regarding Apple's new M1-powered devices, and all of it is based on pure speculation and opinion since the devices are not actually available yet and no testing has been done on any of them, whether that be by biased YouTubers or reputable websites and organizations such as Ars Technica and the like. I am never a first-gen purchaser of anything, but I am very interested to see what Apple has come up with, and I will await test results from a LOT of different sources before declaring these new computers to be a failure, or success.

    • Paul Thurrott

      Doom and gloom? I see nothing bu irrational exuberance. What you should be seeing, what you should expect, is a rational conversation about a topic for which no one has all the facts yet.
  4. nbplopes

    It seams Apple is being modest ....

    If more verifications like this come around ... we are witnessing a quantum leap in performance ... merry Christmas ..

    As I've said in another post ... lying wouldn't make sense considering that it could be easily verifiable in a couple of days.

    • Paul Thurrott

      Benchmarks mean literally nothing. If you actually believe that a first-gen M1-based Mac outperforms an Intel i9-based Mac, you need medical attention.
      • nbplopes

        In reply to paul-thurrott:

        will see.

        Digress of course that benchmarks today still mean nothing. It means far more than the number of cores if one is core i7 and another is i3.

        Of course it means nothing if the baseline is how fast the UX of an OS moves around. In that respect the gains from 1000 to a 1500 are minimal.

        But if you put a render, do large software builds or do some computations, polygon counts, hard statistics which is the core of benchmarks than the story is way different. People will notice.

        In the end the non demanding user, a higher benchmark just means that’s the computer will run for more years as OSs and apps become more computationally demanding.

        My doupt here is if the bench’s are actually for real, and if so, for how long the machine can sustain the workload.

      • nbplopes

        In reply to paul-thurrott:

        “you need medical attention“

        I guess not. The scale has changed. What used high performance is now entry level performance.

        “What’s really important for the general public and Apple’s success is the fact that the performance of the M1 doesn’t feel any different than if you were using a very high-end Intel or AMD CPU. Apple achieving this in-house with their own design is a paradigm shift, and in the future will allow them to achieve a certain level of software-hardware vertical integration that just hasn’t been seen before and isn’t achieved yet by anybody else.“

        It’s impressive what $800 can buy right now in the context of a PC. The GPU is not yet up there with high end discrete cards in terms of gaming though. But its not far. Yet if one takes the price into consideration ... i

        I wonder about the next gen PC software can go from here ... machine learning and all.