First Ring Daily 1042: Smuggling Ham

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On this episode of First Ring Daily, we update the comments, a better way to play cloud gaming, and Verizon sells AOL.

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  • j5

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 11:06 am

    <p>NET ZERO!!!! Wow that was the best for struggling college students.</p><p>Paul and Brad do you remember All Advantage? You had to click the ads that would show up and you got paid X amount cents for each click. I remember some college friends writing scripts that would move their mouse around and click the ad bar all day long while they were in classes. Ah the young days of the internet.</p>

    • Brad Sams

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      04 May, 2021 - 8:28 am

      <p>Do you remember the script that would move your mouse even when you were not at your PC…I…never used it of course. </p>

  • christophercollins

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 1:09 pm

    <p>I think the dial up customers have no choice, as broadband companies didn’t really use ‘rural’ money they received to do what they said and create a rural infrastructure. </p><p><br></p><p>Hell, I’m in a city and Comcast is my only choice for high speed internet. Talk about monopolies, let’s go there. All that should be fixed before an App Store.</p><p><br></p><p>Those poor souls will continue to suffer until Starlink is widely deployed and advertised.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

  • Michael Zeldin

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 4:15 pm

    <p>Aol also has been verizon’s email server for quite a while. So who gets to do that for more than 2 million people???</p>

  • erichk

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 5:13 pm

    <p>Ah, memories of ’90s dial-up.</p><p><br></p><p>I was a CompuServe member for a little while. That was actually pretty cool (coming from bulletin boards), but then I joined an ISP in Michigan called Voyager. Used that until I got AT&amp;T broadband.</p>

  • bleeman

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 9:00 pm

    <p>Does the upgrade to the comments mean we’ll soon see a fix for the notifications and better yet Dark Mode for the site?</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      04 May, 2021 - 9:55 am

      ? I feel like we would have mentioned that if so.

  • harrymyhre

    Premium Member
    03 May, 2021 - 11:53 pm

    <p>When my dad was young, one of his first jobs was learning how to cure hams in a meat packing plant. The smoke house and the whole nine yards. He instilled in me an appreciation of good ham. So I can totally see why Paul tried to smuggle some decent ham across the border. The stuff that is foisted on Americans as ham by (I won’t write their name) is one step away from …</p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      04 May, 2021 - 6:07 am

      <p>Yes, the US standards in food safety can lead something to be desired.</p><p>I worked for a company providing software for slaughterhouses and meat processing plants in Europe, we also had a couple of contracts in the US. The US quality control and what was allowed to be considered fit for human consumption was way below what we were used to.</p><p>The recent "scandal" about the UK being pressured to import US chicken meat, which was considered not fit for human consumption by EU standards (it had too higher contamination levels and had to be chlorinated – illegal in the EU, the meat has to be of a sufficiently high standard of cleanliness to be used in the human food chain and chlorination is a contamination that is not allowed in the food chain). The same for hormone-fed beef, such meat is considered not fit for human consumption, here. This is all centered around the animal welfare standards.</p><p>Did the US say they would raise their standards to European levels to enable the imports? No, they put pressure on the EU and the UK to lower their standards, so the meat could be imported…</p><p><em>"</em><em style="color: rgb(18, 18, 18);">Donald Trump’s ambassador to the UK, Woody Johnson, dismissed fears over chlorine washes earlier this year, saying they were the “most effective and economical way to fight food-borne illness”."</em></p><p>No, Mr. Johnson, the most effective way to fight food-borne illness is to ensure it doesn’t get contaminated in the first place. EU and UK standards for "factory" farming still leave a lot to be desired, compared to free range and Bio (organic) bred animals, but they are still streets ahead of US levels.</p><p>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/uk-will-not-import-chlorinated-chicken-from-us-ministers-brexit </p>

  • bservies

    Premium Member
    06 May, 2021 - 1:26 am

    <p>i don’t understand why separate comment sections was a problem. For me, it was a significant feature. </p>

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