First Ring Daily 1159: Someone Call Webster

Posted on November 12, 2021 by Brad Sams in First Ring Daily, Podcasts with 9 Comments

On this episode of First Ring Daily, Paul creates a word, Microsoft is making a bad move, and cars are still short.

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9 responses to “First Ring Daily 1159: Someone Call Webster”

  1. navarac

    Classic Paul rant, and every word against MSFT resonates.

  2. Michael_Miller

    Although some of the discussion points and criticism of Microsoft is justified, often Ring Daily becomes non-stop criticism. These comments don't square with Microsoft's positive metrics, i.e, revenue growth, profit margin, share price, and market cap, etc. One could successfully argue that their product strategy has been top notch--and not wanting as is so portrayed here. For what it is worth.


    • vladimir

      All those are positive metrics for Microsoft not for the user. Paul is arguing that this is user hostile and he is completely right. We can only be happy and grateful that a Microsoft oriented tech journalist has the guts to say this and is not aligned automatically to any bullshit microsoft does

      • Michael_Miller

        Those positive results for Microsoft are a result of users; otherwise users would migrate elsewhere. If MS was user hostile, it would show up in results. I am a user of MS and Apple products and yes, they both have issues. Nonetheless, they are excellent technology companies. We can find fault throughout the user experience, but their overall strategy, product and corporate, is pretty good and is manifest in shareholder value--who, in the end, MS works for. If it is bullshit that MS is selling, they wouldn't last.

        • pecosbob04

          I mostly agree with your points with the caveat that Microsoft's success relies mainly on corporate and attendant services whereas Paul I think is looking at the company from the consumer (non-corporate) perspective and makes a good argument from that standpoint. But since I am just me and not Paul I should not be trying to say what his position is.

          • Paul Thurrott

            You're right there, thanks.


            Here's how I think about this.


            I don't support Microsoft. I support the people who use Microsoft's products and services.


            It boggles my mind that anyone would be OK with bad behavior because a company is successful. Using that logic, Facebook is a great company. It's not.


            Microsoft is generally a "good" company, I guess. As good as any organization of this size can be. But the part of Microsoft I care about the most---Windows---has been poorly run for years, and the results are easy enough to see. I hate to see something this important be treated so badly. But I hate even more to see its users treated this badly. That me standing up for that would draw criticism isn't just offensive. It's sad.

          • j5

            I think you're right about that. I work for a company that does work all over the world. And a few years ago they move to all employees into an Office 365 OneDrive deal. We all have to use OneDrive to store files, Outlook for email, Skype, the office suite for documentation. Most were already doing this but it was made official etc. Then the pandemic hit we all starting use Teams for EVERYTHING! I'm sure Microsoft makes a ton of money of companies like ours do this. And Microsoft knows corporations don't want tons of new features every year with customization etc. They want ability to restrict access, lock things down, keep things safe and uniform, which is fine for work. But total opposite of home users who wants lots of features and customization and choice to use whatever software they want. For example we're supposed to use Edge exclusively. Which is fine for work because it's work. But this sucks when you're a home user.

        • Paul Thurrott

          "If MS was user hostile, it would show up in results."


          This is untrue. Obviously.


          Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Microsoft are all user-hostile. They are also the biggest companies in the world. You cannot equate success with doing the right thing for users. Doing the right thing for users---respecting their privacy, etc.---is often antithetical to the aims of any corporation. They're designed for profit, not to be good citizens.


          Please wake up.

    • navarac

      @Michael_Miller Obviously a Microsoft shareholder wannabe.

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