First Ring Daily 484: The Surface Blaftermath

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Microsoft had a big week with new Surface products and in this edition of First Ring Daily, we dive deep into the new products that span from headphones to desktops.

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  • kshsystems

    Premium Member
    04 October, 2018 - 12:29 pm

    <p>Did this event come across as underwhelming? </p><p>Wouldn't you expect the Surface Studio to support an 8th gen Intel CPU? I know Microsoft has this thing about the surface connect port, but really, who is it going to hurt to provide an extra USB C port with charging ability?</p>

  • Rob_Wade

    04 October, 2018 - 12:46 pm

    <p>Yes, please qualify what you define as "customer". I want SIGNIFICANTLY better touch experience. I'm SO sick and tired of tired desktop-centric approaches. </p>

  • johnbaxter

    04 October, 2018 - 12:59 pm

    <p>My (79 year old) memory tells me that in the original presentation of Surface Microsoft promised enterprise that Surface Connect is a long term thing. I don't recall an end time for that.</p>

  • Rob_Wade

    04 October, 2018 - 12:59 pm

    <p> My problem with replacing passwords with everything using biometric is that it makes you stupid. In other words, if something ever happens and you need to go back you will not remember your passwords.</p>

  • Travis

    04 October, 2018 - 1:18 pm

    <p>Brad apple does make over the ear active noise canceling headphones and they have the w1 chip. The beats studio 3 wireless headphones. </p>

  • Rob_Wade

    04 October, 2018 - 1:22 pm

    <p> My problem with replacing passwords with everything using biometric is that it makes you stupid. In other words, if something ever happens and you need to go back you will not remember your passwords.</p><p><br></p><p>And beauty clearly is in the eye of the beholder. I've never found Apple products to be attractive in the least. Especially their iPhones.</p>

  • train_wreck

    04 October, 2018 - 4:01 pm

    <p>So you guys sort of glided past the whole "1809 is deleting some people's documents" thing.</p><p><br></p><p>This is bad. Like REALLY bad. About the worst kind of problem you could have with these updates. Deleting user data!?!?</p><p><br></p><p>Of course there needs to be more analysis of this to determine the cause, amount of users impacted, rectifications, etc….. but on the outset, this is disturbing.</p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      05 October, 2018 - 3:14 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#347849">In reply to train_wreck:</a></em></blockquote><p>Agreed, it can be a pain restoring the data after such a problem.</p><p>That said, I have now updated half a dozen devices and VMs and so far I have not come across this problem. (quickly looks for some wood to touch)</p>

  • wright_is

    Premium Member
    05 October, 2018 - 3:23 am

    <p>I don't know how it is in the USA, but over here most students seem to struggle to pay the rent, food and course fees (which are pretty low). Even with a part-time job, most seem to struggle to pay for a basic smartphone contract (10€ – 15€), using hand-me-down phone (my daughter's friend is still using a hand-me-down iPhone 4S, which he paid 50€ for 2 years ago).</p><p>I doubt many would have 50€ a month to spare on a Surface lease-to-buy deal.</p><p>My other daughter managed to get through her Bachelor with a student loan + a part-time job. The loan just about paid for her flat (450€ a month) and her tuition fees. Luckily students get a semester ticket here for trains and buses.</p>

    • ShreyaValdez

      08 July, 2022 - 8:57 am

      <p>It is very sad situation</p>

  • jchampeau

    Premium Member
    05 October, 2018 - 4:58 pm

    <p>One quick comment regarding bezel size: If you use the Surface Pro as a tablet (without the type cover), the existing bezels are just barely big enough to reliably hold or handle the thing without inadvertently touching the screen and moving the cursor. I think if the bezels were 75% smaller, it would be frustratingly difficult to use it like a tablet. And if you use it exclusively like a laptop (and I'm sure many do), then why not buy a Surface Laptop instead? Making the bezels too small would largely turn it from a 2-in-1 device to a 1-in-1 device and they already have one of those.</p>

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