Strictly Plutonic – Windows Weekly 699

Leo, Mary Jo, and Paul discuss Microsoft’s Pluton security chip, the first Apple Silicon reviews, Windows 10, Microsoft Search, and so much more.

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Tips and picks

App pick of the week: Google Photos

Google will no longer offer unlimited free storage of photos. Good. It’s still the best photo service out there and storage is cheap.

App pick of the week #2: Halo it up

With Halo 4 remastered on PC and Halo: MCC optimized for Series X|S, it’s time to revisit some old friends.

Enterprise pick of the week: Dataflex, Project Oakdale and now, Dataverse

Whatever you call CDS these days, it’s now generally available in Teams. As are Power Platform tools and third-party apps for Teams meetings.

Codename pick of the week: Sabre

Sabre looks like it might be the codename for the Pluton processor. (Thanks Walking Cat)

And we now know what CBL stands for in CBL-Mariner Linux! Sadly, it’s not Canadian Bacon Linux

Beer pick of the week: Torch and Crown King Elizabeth Barleywine

Barleywine in a can? Yes, you can. King Elizabeth is from Torch and Crown, Manhattan, NY’s only brewery – which just opened for drinking and eating on premises recently. (They’ve also been a reliable delivery supplier since earlier this year.) King Elizabeth seems to be their brewery cat in their Bronx.

 

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  • navarac

    20 November, 2020 - 3:18 am

    <p>While Apples M1 chip is important, this is yet another episode that Laporte hijacks. The first hour is totally "Apple Weekly" again, with poor Mary Jo just sat there. Mention Apple and Laporte is off as usual.</p><p>As I've said before, WW needs a less Apple Fanboy as its host. I'm getting to the stage of not bothering to watch this Podcast.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      20 November, 2020 - 8:46 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#594397">In reply to navarac:</a></em></blockquote><p>For whatever it's worth, Mary Jo was the one who put the Apple topic in the show notes. It's not something we would/could ignore.</p>

      • navarac

        20 November, 2020 - 9:33 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#594463">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Thanks for that, and I respect it isn't a topic to ignore. It has been covered "ad nauseum" in other Twit shows, though. </p>

        • Paul Thurrott

          Premium Member
          21 November, 2020 - 8:59 am

          I don’t listen to other TWiT shows, but again, we just can’t ignore things that are this important.

          • navarac

            22 November, 2020 - 4:23 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#594652">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Appreciate your responses, Paul.</p>

    • mcerdas

      Premium Member
      20 November, 2020 - 9:13 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#594397">In reply to navarac:</a></em></blockquote><p>Respectfully disagree. The show should cover events that can have impact on the platform. For example, from the perspective of an inveterate Apple hater like me, it's good to know what the enemy is doing, how it affects my chosen platform, and how can it be countered.</p>

      • james.h.robinson

        Premium Member
        20 November, 2020 - 9:37 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#594467">In reply to mcerdas:</a></em></blockquote><p>Then watch MacBreak Weekly. This has been a pattern with Windows Weekly for some time. It doesn't help that Windows Weekly is hosted by someone (Laporte) who doesn't actually use Windows on a regular basis.</p>

        • Chris_Kez

          Premium Member
          20 November, 2020 - 10:04 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#594477">In reply to james.h.robinson:</a></em></blockquote><p>Leo's absolute disdain for Windows is absolutely grating, but I do appreciate having another critical voice and I absolutely have no issue with the team talking about major developments outside the Microsoft universe.</p>

          • navarac

            20 November, 2020 - 10:47 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#594482">In reply to Chris_Kez:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's not the Apple coverage that I object to (when it is relevant). It's the sheer quantity of it some weeks. It is sometimes like MacBreak Weekly – Wednesday Edition! Imagine Macbreak Weekly being hosted by a major Windows user and you get my drift. If there is not a lot of MIcrosoft stuff to talk about, I'd rather the show was cut down timewise. Unfortunately this is not the first week it has happened.</p>

            • Paul Thurrott

              Premium Member
              21 November, 2020 - 8:57 am

              I get it, I guess, but we simply respond to what’s happening in the world when it’s relevant. It’s a heterogeneous world, everyone uses a mix of devices and services, and us ignoring the competition would be arrogant and short-sighted.

        • Paul Thurrott

          Premium Member
          21 November, 2020 - 8:58 am

          A pattern, lol. You know, like a serial killer.

      • navarac

        20 November, 2020 - 9:38 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#594467">In reply to mcerdas:</a></em></blockquote><p>I get your point. The subject has been covered in other Twit shows to the "almost" exclusion of everything else. To me it all comes across as iTwit. The podcast has stopped being about Windows, or even Microsoft some weeks.</p>

  • nbplopes

    20 November, 2020 - 3:24 am

    <p>Two corrections:</p><p><br></p><p>T2 is not TPM. Both platforms aim the same but its not. In fact ask any expert about the differences and they will tell you. The reason why it's a separate chip on the Mac it's of course because Apple could not simply change the Intel chips. And yes, T2 appeared after TPM. Yet it does much more, not only for security purposes. For instance encoding and decoding video is faster, mics cannot be possible enabled while the lid is shut, third party drivers only load after login and after the boot process is finished … so on and so forth (partially the reason why when booting from cold one needs to use either the Apple wireless keyboard or an USB mouse).</p><p><br></p><p>Yet the A series and now the M series of Apple processors have even a more advanced version integrated in the SOC … meaning it's not a separate chip. A bit like Pluton. Of course Apple could do this because they control these chips … Microsoft to get there needs to force some kind of consortium between companies that build and design chips for their OS.</p><p><br></p><p>https://medium.com/asecuritysite-when-bob-met-alice/for-security-how-bad-are-tpms-and-how-good-is-the-apple-t2-chip-a561bda34e6</p><p><br></p><p>Have fun.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      20 November, 2020 - 8:46 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#594399">In reply to nbplopes:</a></em></blockquote><p>The T2 is a separate chip … on all Macs through this week. Which is what we were comparing it to.</p>

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