Windows 10 Mobile Is Dead Dead

Windows 10 Mobile is dead.

No, I am being serious.

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Yes, for real for real.

It is dead. Dead dead.

Here’s the story.

Microsoft recently published a support page detailing Windows 10 Mobile’s upcoming End of Support. The company said that all Windows 10 Mobile users are no longer eligible to receive updates, including security updates, from December 10, 2019. Devices that are running Windows 10 Mobile version 1703 will no longer receive support even earlier — on June 11th, 2019.

After your device reaches end of support, some of the features will slowly stop working and Microsoft won’t do anything about it. That includes automatic or manual device backups, which will end on March 10, 2020. And services like photo uploads and restoring a device from an existing device backup may only work for up to an additional 12 month after the end of support.

The way out of all this? Switch to Android and iOS, says Microsoft.

“Microsoft’s mission statement to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more, compels us to support our Mobile apps on those platforms and devices,” the company said, recommending users to move to an Android or iOS device.

Windows 10 Mobile is probably going to die a couple more times before everyone forgets about it. But if you still happen to be using a Windows 10 Mobile device, you should probably try looking for a new phone before things stop working — because Microsoft won’t be there to support you.

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  • ben55124

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 10:08 am

    <p>A true WP enthusiast will use it until the live tiles stop flipping. /s</p>

    • jrh

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 10:13 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397757">In reply to ben55124:</a></em></blockquote><p>Amen to that!</p>

  • maethorechannen

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 10:16 am

    <p><em style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Windows 10 Mobile is dead.</em></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">No, it's not dead. It's resting. Remarkable phone OS, Windows 10 Mobile, isn't it? Beautiful tiles!</span></p>

    • bart

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 4:08 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397763">In reply to maethorechannen:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's resting. Lol. So is my dead grandmother. In peace I might add. Bless her soul</p>

  • Bob Shutts

    18 January, 2019 - 10:24 am

    <p>It's not dead; it's just pinning for the fjords. </p>

    • jeffrye

      18 January, 2019 - 11:03 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397766">In reply to Bob_Shutts:</a></em></blockquote><p>Remarkable phone isn't it – beautiful UI!</p>

  • martinusv2

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 10:26 am

    <p>I miss my Lumia 1520</p>

    • cwfinn

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 1:23 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#397767"><em>In reply to MartinusV2:</em></a><em>I still use my 1520 as my daily phone. I use it in the park to look up fixes for their iToys and Droids. ;)</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • Vladimir Carli

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 10:28 am

    <p>I am still using a Lumia 950 as my secondary phone. It's really a pity it has to go away…</p><p>V.</p>

  • DaddyBrownJr

    18 January, 2019 - 10:30 am

    <p>It's not dead, it just smells bad.</p>

  • innitrichie

    18 January, 2019 - 10:35 am

    <p>Shocking news.</p><p>I've been holding out for a Surface Phone but I guess it might not happen now?</p><p>I'll never stop using my Lumia 950 XL. It's still the best smartphone on the market.</p>

    • Bats

      18 January, 2019 - 1:16 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397773">In reply to innitrichie:</a></em></blockquote><p>That's the spirit!</p>

    • jgraebner

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 1:28 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397773">In reply to innitrichie:</a></em></blockquote><p>Shocking? You're kidding right?</p>

    • George Rae

      18 January, 2019 - 2:00 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397773">In reply to innitrichie:</a></em></blockquote><blockquote><em>yeah if you don’t want to use any modern apps. It was great, so was string cheese in its day.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

      • Rob_Wade

        18 January, 2019 - 4:15 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#397854"><em>In reply to Sectime:</em></a></blockquote><blockquote><em>Apps like what? I can tell you that I currently have all the apps I actually USE. So, what would be an example of a "modern app" that I should be using?</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • win2008workstation

          18 January, 2019 - 5:55 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#397903">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><em>He means apps like Periscope, Snapchat, Tic Toc, Pokemon Go, etc. There are a few apps which could be beneficial to us, namely banking apps and automated systems like Ring, Nest, etc, but none of that is detrimental to your phone experience to be honest. F***K snapchat.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • senorlargo

    18 January, 2019 - 10:41 am

    <p>Long live the Nokia Lumia 1520. Never die!!! I'm going down with the ship. </p>

    • waethorn

      18 January, 2019 - 4:03 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397774">In reply to senorlargo:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's already sunk.</p><p><br></p><p>James Cameron is documenting it via submersible.</p>

  • StevenLayton

    18 January, 2019 - 10:41 am

    <p>Yes, but they say that right before they spring the mythical Surface Phone on us, transforming the market ;)</p>

  • harmjr

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 10:55 am

    <p>I think this should be killed off until they can get ARM right.</p><p>Now once we have a decent Windows 10 on ARM. I think it would be interesting to see a phone again but I am betting that the earliest Windows 10 on ARM wont be worth spit until 2023.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 12:54 pm

      <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to harmjr:</em></a></p><p>Windows 10 ARM is going to become a mainstream product because there are literally a few thousand MSFT Store apps and PWAs which any sufficiently advanced OS on any sufficiently capable hardware could run? That is, Windows 10 ARM can become a huge success even if it only runs 32-bit Win32 software via emulation?</p><p>MSFT may have a future with mobile OSes, but I figure NOT with any OS with <em>Windows</em> in its name.</p>

      • VancouverNinja

        Premium Member
        18 January, 2019 - 5:54 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#397826">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>Windows as a brand is the strongest selling point for any hardware platform that Microsoft could launch. Saying it is detrimental is just plain wrong. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

  • djross95

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 11:00 am

    <p>Feel good to get that off your chest, Mehedi? 🙂 </p>

  • BigM72

    18 January, 2019 - 11:26 am

    <p>How dead can a dead OS get?</p>

    • bart

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 4:06 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397787">In reply to BigM72:</a></em></blockquote><p>We should ask Cortana….?</p>

  • jean

    18 January, 2019 - 11:37 am

    <p>and so is Windows XP and soon enough Windows 7 – SO WHAT : there are still gazillions using these versions</p>

    • jbinaz

      18 January, 2019 - 11:41 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397791">In reply to jean:</a></em></blockquote><p>But there <em>definitely </em>aren't gazillions using Windows phone.</p>

  • roho

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 12:16 pm

    <p>I'm using my 920 to play solitaire. It works great!</p>

    • IanYates82

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 8:01 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397811">In reply to RoHo:</a></em></blockquote><p>I have fond feelings of that phone. But never got a new win phone after it… I did have a case on mine but really didn't feel it needed it – polycarbonate was a feature! </p>

  • MikeGalos

    18 January, 2019 - 12:34 pm

    <p>So about a month before Windows 7.</p><p><br></p><p>Sadly, there is no tolerable replacement, at the moment, for Windows 10 Mobile. Still, that's 9 months from now and the industry can change quickly when it wants to.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 12:47 pm

      <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to MikeGalos:</em></a></p><blockquote>. . . the industry can change quickly when it wants to.</blockquote><p>Industry maybe, though it seems users not so much.</p><p>I figure MSFT really does mean this since there's only money to be spent/lost by MSFT maintaining Windows 10 Mobile. Why would a rationally managed public corporation do such a thing? Maintaining the good will of the handful of Whindows phone die-hards who are bloody obviously NOT trend-setters?</p>

    • jgraebner

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 1:28 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397816">In reply to MikeGalos:</a></em></blockquote><p>If you think that neither iOS nor Android are a suitable replacement for an OS that never gained traction and has been essentially abandoned for nearly 2 years, I don't think the industry is too likely to accommodate you.</p>

      • Rob_Wade

        18 January, 2019 - 4:11 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#397846">In reply to jgraebner:</a></em></blockquote><p>Speaking as someone who still gets everything they want out of a Windows phone–including 100% hands-free voice control via Cortana–you are absolutely correct. And I absolutely KNOW that neither iOS nor Android are a suitable replacement for ME because neither support the user experience I want. I never, ever cared about "traction" or apps or market share. I buy devices for MY use. Period.</p>

        • Dan

          18 January, 2019 - 5:43 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#397901">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p>Nobody cares about why you hold on to an old phone.</p>

          • iamthekgb

            19 January, 2019 - 4:16 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#397929">In reply to Dan:</a></em></blockquote><p>So Dan, what crawled up your butt and had a party?</p>

        • win2008workstation

          18 January, 2019 - 5:53 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#397901">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>HELL YEAH Brother. That's what I'm talking about! We already know that from an overall experience iOS and Android are superior. We are not denying their superiority, but what everyone fails to recognize is, does it fit OUR lifestyle? For example my favorite app is MyTube! and Reddplanet, the BEST YouTube Client hands down and the best Reddit client hands down. There are no replacements. All of the music I download automatically gets uploaded to OneDrive and I can play my music through the cloud through Groove. Android and iOS no longer support Groove so thats out the window. The experience is the key differentiating factor. </p>

        • Bob Shutts

          18 January, 2019 - 6:41 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#397901"><em>In reply to Rob_Wade:</em></a><em> Respectfully, even if you have never used a device named after a fruit before, you owe it to yourself to go to an Apple Store in your area to get a short demo. Thanks to Microsoft's enlightened CEO, many, many MS services are available in iPhone, including Office, Notes, Cortana, etc. If you end up vomiting after looking over the pickings, then check out Android. Lots of good stuff over there, I hear. ;)</em></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote><em>As for price, you don't have to drop $800.00 on an iPhone. If you go to the Apple website, you will find iPhone 7 or 8 for $450.00 to $600.00.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

          • iamthekgb

            19 January, 2019 - 4:18 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#397946">In reply to Bob_Shutts:</a></em></blockquote><p>But Bob, you say it will only cost $450 to $600 to replace a perfectly good phone… Read that again and see how foolish that statement is.</p>

            • Bob Shutts

              20 January, 2019 - 4:30 pm

              <blockquote><a href="#398034"><em>In reply to iamthekgb:</em></a><em> You’re quite right. Obviously only shop for a new phone when you’re ready. </em></blockquote><p><br></p>

          • skane2600

            19 January, 2019 - 5:10 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#397946">In reply to Bob_Shutts:</a></em></blockquote><p>Only in the world of Apple would a $450 phone be consider inexpensive. </p>

            • Bob Shutts

              21 January, 2019 - 11:30 am

              <blockquote><a href="#398037"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a><em> Huawei makes a very decent $150.00 phone I hear. *grimace*</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • iamthekgb

          19 January, 2019 - 4:15 am

          <blockquote><a href="#397901"><em>In reply to Rob_Wade:</em></a><em> Well said Rob, well said…</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • hrlngrv

          Premium Member
          20 January, 2019 - 2:16 am

          <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to Rob_Wade:</em></a></p><blockquote>. . . I buy devices for MY use. Period.</blockquote><p>Which is as it should be. However, there are quite few people who share your assessment, and MSFT sees only money to be lost on the few of you. So <strong><em>dead dead</em></strong> even if you go on using your Windows phones for decades to come.</p>

        • sandeepm

          25 January, 2019 - 12:18 am

          <blockquote><em>just keep your mouth shut… you are giving an opportunity to Nadellato block Cortana on Windows Mobile by disclosing features that are not yet blocked <a href="#397901">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p>

      • skane2600

        19 January, 2019 - 12:20 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#397846">In reply to jgraebner:</a></em></blockquote><p>Very strange logic here. What does "never gained traction" have to do with whether there is a suitable replacement? iOS and Android have failed to provide some of the functions that the Windows Phone has even though they've had an extra two years to develop them. Which device family is best is obviously subjective but "traction gained" isn't a valid comparison criteria.</p>

        • pecosbob04

          19 January, 2019 - 1:45 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#398017"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a><em> </em>&nbsp;"iOS and Android have failed to provide some of the functions that the Windows Phone has" Serious question what functions. are you referring to?</blockquote><blockquote>&nbsp;</blockquote><p><br></p>

          • skane2600

            19 January, 2019 - 6:29 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#398101">In reply to pecosbob04:</a></em></blockquote><p>For example, the automatic function of reading your texts via Bluetooth and giving you the opportunity to give a voice response that will be converted to text and sent back to the other party. Merely connecting via Bluetooth is all that is required, no need to start an app or push any buttons.</p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 12:43 pm

    <p>Condensed form: so long, suckers.</p>

  • CaymanDreamin

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 1:05 pm

    <p>Moved my family to Android phones in 2017. Still have a box in the closet full of Windows phones from a Samsung Focus to a Lumia 950. Even put my wife back on her 830 for a few days last week after she broke her screen on her Moto while we waited for the replacement. While they've adjusted, I tried multiple launchers and just didn't care for it. Finally landed on Square Home and it was the first time I felt that I really enjoyed using a phone again. It even has more customization than I had on Windows Phone. I recommend trying it, you're only hurting yourself by not being able to fully utilize your phone. I know there will be the argument that "I don't need all the apps". I felt that way too, but let me tell you, it's great being able to have an app for whatever you do need. You don't realize how convenient it makes things until you have it. RIP WP</p>

  • faustxd9

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 1:26 pm

    <p>When I pick up my 950xl and look at its beautiful screen, I shed an internal tear and pick up my Android to get most anything done. Wish MS would have done a lot different to potentially include skinning Android, but that chapter is closed for now. RIP </p>

  • gregsedwards

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 1:52 pm

    <p>Call me an eternal optimist, but what I'm reading from all this is that Surface Phone is definitely coming before December 2019! ?</p>

    • misterstuart

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 3:51 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397852">In reply to gregsedwards:</a></em></blockquote><p>Keep dreamin', dude! </p>

    • VancouverNinja

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 5:52 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397852">In reply to gregsedwards:</a></em></blockquote><p>There is a very strong chance of it at this point. It will either hit the market end of year or be announced for a 2020 release. </p>

  • robmille

    18 January, 2019 - 2:59 pm

    <p>I love these comments on Windows Phone posts with idiots who still run Windows Phones.</p>

    • Rob_Wade

      18 January, 2019 - 4:08 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397880">In reply to robmille:</a></em></blockquote><blockquote><em>So, according to you, a person whose use requirements are completely met by what they are currently using is an idiot? Fine, then you're an idiot as well.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

    • Dan

      18 January, 2019 - 5:39 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397880">In reply to robmille:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yup. Or the ones who say how great the OS and phones were. Ummm, ok. </p>

      • win2008workstation

        18 January, 2019 - 5:47 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#397928">In reply to Dan:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I don't deny Android or iOS is superior. Because they are. But that still doesn't mean it doens't suit YOUR lifestyle. I could care less about apps. All I want is basic functionality. A simple browser, email, texting, music, YouTube, thats it. Everything else is a plus, but trivial. For the 99% of everyone else, the phone is not for you. But for me I'll always be on Windows Phone, so long as my hardware continues to work. Absolutely no desire to switch. I tried Android a lot over the past year (Bought a Nokia 6.1 and then a One Plus 6T) while they were smooth devices I never fell in love with them like I did my Windows Phone. Simple and to the point, just the way I like it. Sure Windows 10 Mobile is buggy as hell (I'm not denying that), but its an acceptable trade off in my book. The biggest issue going forward is purely hardware. With no one making new phones, the support will eventually die when the phones die out (physically)</p>

    • skane2600

      19 January, 2019 - 12:09 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397880">In reply to robmille:</a></em></blockquote><p>Some people see technical products as tools while others see them as toys. The former group will continue to use their tools as long as they do the job, while the latter group will buy whatever shiny new device they see whether they need it or not. </p>

  • noyesarthurrott

    18 January, 2019 - 3:12 pm

    <p>Loved the Windows phones and held out as long as I could. Got a Nokia 7.1 in October and I haven't looked back. </p>

  • martinm

    Premium Member
    18 January, 2019 - 4:02 pm

    <p>I love Paul's photos, just so cool . They always make me smile. :)</p>

  • Rob_Wade

    18 January, 2019 - 4:07 pm

    <p>I have a Huawei Android device. I've been trying out all the ways people have suggested to make it palatable for those of us who still use and like Windows phones. For over 6 MONTHS I've been trying it. Android is crap. Everything ABOUT it is crap. There is, quite literally, nothing palatable about the experience.</p>

    • VancouverNinja

      Premium Member
      18 January, 2019 - 5:56 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#397897">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p>It was and is the worst Mobile OS of the three we had choices of. It has never been considered a good or great mobile OS – it just won the cheap race for Mobile Phone OEMs. </p>

      • MichaelMDiv

        Premium Member
        18 January, 2019 - 7:03 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#397936"><em>In reply to VancouverNinja:</em></a></blockquote><blockquote><em>I'm gonna sort of disagree with you there…</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • iamthekgb

          19 January, 2019 - 4:13 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#397962">In reply to MichaelMDiv:</a></em></blockquote><p>I’m with you, worst OS of the three… hardly.</p>

      • hrlngrv

        Premium Member
        20 January, 2019 - 4:40 pm

        <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to VancouverNinja:</em></a></p><blockquote>. . . it just won the cheap race for Mobile Phone OEMs.</blockquote><p>In no small way because phone makers saw and understood what MSFT does to PC OEMs and wanted to avoid that fate. There's considerable evidence that PCs will be the only market in which MSFT will succeed with a rent-seeking license fee revenue stream from 3rd party hardware manufacturers. For any other market, they're stuck with Google's revenue model: charge hardware manufacturers <strong><em>nothing</em></strong> and make money off bundled services and ads. To date there's no convincing evidence MSFT can adapt to that model.</p>

      • roastedwookie

        21 January, 2019 - 9:43 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#397936">In reply to VancouverNinja:</a></em></blockquote><p>What can anyone expect from a desperate fanbaby like you Ninjaboy..besides the same pathetic comments.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      19 January, 2019 - 4:39 pm

      <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to Rob_Wade:</em></a></p><p>Arguably it's a shame there were and are so few who share your preference for Windows phones. However, there aren't. Perhaps you should consider iPhones.</p>

    • sandeepm

      25 January, 2019 - 12:11 am

      <blockquote><em>I switched from 950 and tried blackberry keyone for three months and then switched to elite x3. during that period, I also realized that arrow Launcher was much worse than blackberry Launcher. last week I bought an Alcatel android $50 phone for configuring my iot devices since that is the only way it can be done, and noticed that the latest arrow Launcher is as bad as it was then.. An year ago, I had planned to switch to android once Ms apps on it reached some level of maturity… losing hope now <a href="#397897">In reply to Rob_Wade:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • provision l-3

    18 January, 2019 - 6:40 pm

    <p>I wonder what the venn diagram looks like for people waiting for Surface Phone and people waiting Osborn Executive.</p>

  • Minke

    18 January, 2019 - 7:44 pm

    <p>I never quite understand the anguish for disappearing hardware and software. Things change, the world moves on, people adapt. I can remember telephones that made calls by picking up the handset and a voice would say, "Number please…" You then told the operator the number and possibly the city if it was the dreaded "long distance," with charges measured in dollars per minute. It was pleasant speaking to the operator, and she (they were always women) would help you out if you didn't know the number–they often knew lots of popular numbers. But, that all went away, we moved on to dial phones, push buttons, wireless phones, cell phones in cars and bags, flip phones, primitive smart phones, etc. They each had their advantages over following generations and there was always much rending of garments and gnashing of teeth when they each faded from availability. I really liked Windows phones and they were my first smartphones, but I moved on to Android a few years ago and found that I really like a lot about the ecosystem. Apple's offerings have other advantages. My advice, if you want the best experience with the least hassle, go iPhone. I think you can get a 7 for around $450 right now. I suspect 90% of diehard Windows phone fans will be perfectly happy once they move on, with most of them finding they have been missing a lot. The few who are miserable about this will let everyone know loudly, but they are a minority.</p>

    • iamthekgb

      19 January, 2019 - 4:10 am

      <blockquote><a href="#397964"><em>In reply to Minke:</em></a><em> but, being forced by Microsoft to get a new phone because they can’t spend a seriously tiny amount of their vast fortune (Billy Boy is worth how many billions) to support people who bought their technology rather than going Apple or Android…</em></blockquote><blockquote><em>Your last few sentences Minke are about as insulting as an Apple head would be expected to be.</em></blockquote><blockquote><em>Just go out and spend around $450 for an iPhone 7, sure no problem boss, of course up here in Canada that $450 is around $700, but that doesn’t matter in your method it just loose changeto you I guess.</em></blockquote><blockquote>Sadly Microsoft have decided that those of us who actually like our Microsoft phones just aren’t worth the effort to support with just a tiny budget for support.</blockquote><blockquote>So, first to you Minke, your comments here are entirely meaningless, you aren’t a Microsoft phone owner, and second to Microsoft, buy my phone back, you’re killing your support because it may cost you a few thousand a year.</blockquote><blockquote>Too bad, I liked the phone.</blockquote><p><br></p>

      • James Burns

        22 January, 2019 - 1:35 am

        <blockquote><a href="#398023"><em>In reply to iamthekgb:</em></a><em> You seriously need to get real.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • sandeepm

          25 January, 2019 - 12:02 am

          <blockquote><em>no one is being unreal, just that ms deserves all the negative feedback that they can be given… this is not like we are talking about zune or groove, this is about windows <a href="#398617">In reply to James_B:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • carlmess

    18 January, 2019 - 11:00 pm

    <p>I has costed a lot to the cloud company that also happens to have a legacy OS and that once had a mobile platform… Cortana gone, Groove gone, Edge gone, Windows?</p>

  • sandeepm

    18 January, 2019 - 11:24 pm

    <p>I am with Nadella if he wants to lick Pichai's. But why this vengeance against loyalists who existed from before his foes: Ballmer and Elop? If he wants to divert Mobile funding to support Launchers on stupid Android, he should opensource Windows mobile on GitHub… we know how to take care of ourselves… we will probably do a much better job at it than his A Team. We will potentially make apps work on it that he and his predecessors could not. I still cannot come to terms with using stupid Android… Even with Microsoft Launcher, the maximum of 8 soap dish static tiles on the home screen make my blood reach boiling temperature. It is worse than Windows Mobile 6.5</p><p><br></p><p>And it would be better if Microsoft stops Google Android from pirating all Windows Phone features like live tile drag / drop. Who exactly does Trump work for? United States or Russia?</p>

  • sandeepm

    19 January, 2019 - 12:00 am

    <p>Even the excitement around WCOS has died down… they eventually realized that it was not an operating system architecture problem… it was simply their lack of capability to fight against the unscrupulous. Infact, Ballmer's Windows Phone 8.1 was better than Nadella's Windows 10 Mobile. Good that they fired Terry Myerson… he was the root cause of the demise of Microsoft's consumer / enduser oriented platforms. Windows server is their next target, but I don't need to care anymore… will be retired before they complete that kill.</p>

    • roastedwookie

      21 January, 2019 - 9:40 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398015">In reply to sandeepm:</a></em></blockquote><p>Terry actually had to follow the new cost first, quality last policy that Nadella put in place among other bad calls, which, as I know, was not on the same line with his way of doing things, so he quit.</p>

      • sandeepm

        24 January, 2019 - 11:50 pm

        <blockquote>okay, then why did he not resign when (the then new) Nadella announced the 950s saying that no one needs to waste their time on it other than stupid enthusiasts? and why was he not able to deliver 64 bit on mobile? I still have to live with my 2 Elite X3s and 2 Alcatel Idols where the hardware supports 4gb but the OS crocks at 3.5</blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>and just an FYI, I bought the very first 950xl sold, from the Microsoft store in Eaton Centre, the day of launch, not quite realizing what Nadella meant by enthusiasts… it used to spontaneously reboot 5 times a day</blockquote><blockquote><a href="#398386"><em>In reply to roastedwookie:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • madthinus

    Premium Member
    19 January, 2019 - 3:55 am

    <p>The great idea that was rebooted to death</p>

  • iamthekgb

    19 January, 2019 - 3:56 am

    <p>So, as I and many others now own a relic, not by bankruptcy, but by design, do we as a group now get refunds for the phones that Microsoft are essentially bricking?</p><p>i liked the phone, but since they won’t be supplying any updates etc, I want my money back.</p>

    • MikeGalos

      19 January, 2019 - 10:53 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398022">In reply to iamthekgb:</a></em></blockquote><p>The same number who get refunds from Apple for not supporting their own hardware with their own software after a few years. </p><p><br></p><p>The same number who get refunds from Google when they don't get OS updates including security patches from their OEM because that's not part of the Android OEM agreement so their phone is as unsupported out of the box as Windows 10 Mobile will be in December after several years.</p>

  • Pedro Vieira

    19 January, 2019 - 6:09 am

    <p>Am I the only one who doesn't get this Windows Mobile soon-to-become nostalgic feeling?</p><p>The whole UI felt sluggish because of so much of the unnecessary animation. So much wasted screen estate with gigantic letters.</p><p>Live tiles wouldn't update properly or quickly enough, making them useless, and were harder to tell apart than regular icons, because of the lack of distinctive features like shape and color.</p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">It's not that it was terrible, but some people talk about it like it was actually great.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I'm glad MS tried something different, but the whole thing really went against common sense in some regards, just for the sake of being different.</span></p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      20 January, 2019 - 2:11 am

      <p><a href="; target="_blank"><em>In reply to PeteMiles:</em></a></p><p>You're not the only one. Figure that most commenters on this site were and remain Windows phone fans, and a lot of them have yet to wander through all the stages of grief.</p>

      • skane2600

        20 January, 2019 - 5:14 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#398166">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>There's really no grief involved. When my Windows Phone stops working or I need to perform some task that is supported on another OS but not on Windows mobile, I'll move on. </p>

    • roastedwookie

      21 January, 2019 - 9:36 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398039">In reply to PeteMiles:</a></em></blockquote><p>In the WP8/8.1 days, the OS was fluid, fast and fine (the fact it did not catch more market share, it's another story). The whole disaster that you are speaking about came when they released that unfinished junk called windows 10 mobile.</p>

    • sandeepm

      24 January, 2019 - 11:33 pm

      <a href="#398039"><em>yes, you bumped into the wrong address… there are hundreds of other places for you to go visit. actually we Windows fans also should probably move on, since this address is only negative about Microsoft and Windows last couple of years. </em></a></blockquote><blockquote>and as far as fluidity is in question, you might want to check Crack concentration in your blood</blockquote><blockquote><em> </em><a href="#398039"><em>In reply to PeteMiles:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • wocowboy

    Premium Member
    19 January, 2019 - 8:46 am

    <p>All is not lost. For those tho like to take a new Android phone out of the box and immediately change EVERYTHING about it, there is the wonderful Microsoft Launcher app available on the Google Play store. It’s actually pretty good, although buyer beware, I installed it on one of my Android phones and it also installed a second, unnanounced piece of software that could not be removed without completely borking the device and starting from scratch, after doing some research on the internet that disclosed the problem. I was not amused. It was a couple years ago so I’ve already forgotten what the malware was and I have not installed the launcher on any other device since I moved to iOS, so I don’t know if it’s still a problem or not. </p>

    • clhodappp

      Premium Member
      19 January, 2019 - 6:40 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398066">In reply to wocowboy:</a></em></blockquote><p>&gt; I installed it on one of my Android phones and it also installed a second, unnanounced piece of software that could not be removed without completely borking the device and starting from scratch</p><p><br></p><p>Unless you were rooted or this was somehow assisted by the OEM, that simply isn't how Android has ever worked. All installed apks are isolated from the rest of the system and can be cleanly removed.</p>

  • UK User

    Premium Member
    19 January, 2019 - 9:23 am

    <p>Yes I still used my Lumia 650, yes I still update my Lumia 535, and yes I know, and have known for long enough that the writing was on the wall for both of their demise. So the killer for me is not the fact that the end is nigh but that some features will just stop working, and so the quest for a replacement has began. I don't spend mega bucks (or pounds) on phones so I look at the price of new (yes Android as Apple prices are not my prices) phones and to get anything near to what I already have means between £150 – £200, that will be my max. So all of you guys who are way above me, technical wise, comments please on my choices, Honor 10 Light, or Moto G6 plus, fire away.</p>

    • Finley

      Premium Member
      19 January, 2019 - 11:31 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398067">In reply to UK User:</a></em></blockquote><p>Feature phones usually go cheap :)</p>

  • MikeGalos

    19 January, 2019 - 10:56 am

    <p>Let's see. In January 2020 I won't get the latest update and security patch for my old Windows 10 Mobile phone.</p><p><br></p><p>That's the same state I'm in for the Android tablet I use for a home control app. </p><p><br></p><p>Except that was true for it the day I took it out of the box since the OEM didn't have to include updates to get and keep a Google license.</p>

  • kevinfanch

    20 January, 2019 - 4:44 am

    <p><span style="background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);">Here is an idea what to do after Windows 10. Bonus: You can protect your privacy by not sharing any personal data with companies like Google. I am using /e/ ( on my Galaxy S9&nbsp;instead of Google Android. It is Android based mobile OS designed with privacy in mind. Does not send any private data like contacts, emails or location to Google. Instead of Google apps it uses open source android apps. So far it works great. </span></p>

    • James Burns

      22 January, 2019 - 1:32 am

      <blockquote>Sounds ridiculous… seriously. I'm not going to mess around with some half-baked OS when Google is available, privacy issues or not.</blockquote><p><br></p>

  • usa_4004

    21 January, 2019 - 7:36 am

    <p>I wish Microsoft and Blackberry joined forces before quitting. Oh, well. The Nokia Lumia 930 is the best phone I have ever owned even though I own an Iphone.</p>

    • sandeepm

      24 January, 2019 - 11:42 pm

      <blockquote>Windows Mobile OS with Blackberry Keyboard… my ultimate dream 🙂 I wish they had never done Windows mobile 7, Windows Mobile 6.5 was so much more awesome! Andy Rubin was smart in picking up from where MS left off, when developing Android with the pirated version of Windows Mobile 6.5 while Microsoft was busy chasing Apple and cloning their assets.</blockquote><blockquote><a href="#398356"><em>In reply to usa_4004:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • roastedwookie

    21 January, 2019 - 9:34 am

    <p>Don't they even see how pathetic it sounds: move to IOS or Android… because our latest mobile OS was a pure junk and failed :)))) But then again, looking at their history and way of doing things, they really do not care how pathetic their public statements are.</p>

  • jaimito

    22 January, 2019 - 10:11 am

    <p>this announcement makes no difference at all. People who still use WM will continue to use it until they need something else or it breaks. I still use Elite x3 as a daily driver, Mate 20Pro to run apps for work, etc. Yes i carry two phones. Never out of battery, plus that Huawei is amazing. </p>

    • sandeepm

      24 January, 2019 - 11:24 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#398667">In reply to jaimito:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Since a few months, Skype for Business (office 365) has been blocked on Elite X3 and Lumia 950. Microsoft has this hypothetical end of 2019 date but in reality they are trying to push people off windows well in advance so that they can reduce their services expense on Windows 10 mobile so that all employees get an ounce of salted peanuts to enjoy.</p><p><br></p><p>I was honestly scared a couple of weeks back when they blocked search on the Store App, but fortunately, it was resurrected a couple of days back… it just reminded me of them blocking search on the Podcast App over an year ago and is still broken. If they brought Podcast App and Phone dialer App etc. to Android, I could possibly consider Android. Latest Arrow Launcher is almost a joke.</p>

  • snissen

    24 January, 2019 - 12:26 pm

    <p>Is there any word on the Windows Phone part of the Microsoft store closing? I know it closes for Windows Phone 8.1 on June 30, 2019. But what about for Windows Phone 10?</p>

  • sandeepm

    24 January, 2019 - 11:06 pm

    <p>You don't need to take credit for all the Windows Phone fan following… they are just Windows phone fans… it has nothing to do with your enthusiasm 5 years ago… you were one of the first to leave when there was still a 90% chance of a comeback and certainly influenced the public in that… MJF included. Now there is still a 10% chance (LOL) that they will open source all Windows assets so that it can survive still, till eternity. Or maybe there will be new management for consumer software… like was proposed by the government a decade or more ago. We diehards will hang on without making noise… you can keep making noise while on that stupid pirated Android bandwagon. Live tiles are awesome!</p><p><br></p><p>Windows is the best, by leaps and bounds! </p>

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