Nintendo Unveils Its Mobile First Vision for the Future Video Games

Posted on October 20, 2016 by Paul Thurrott in Xbox with 72 Comments

Today, Nintendo unveiled its next generation video game console, which will double as a mobile gaming system as well. Dubbed Nintendo Switch, and previously code-named NX, this new device looks to be a delightful departure from the monolithic consoles that Sony and Microsoft offer.

“In addition to providing single and multiplayer thrills at home, the Nintendo Switch system also enables gamers to play the same title wherever, whenever and with whomever they choose,” the company notes. “The mobility of a handheld is now added to the power of a home gaming system to enable unprecedented new video game play styles.”

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While hard core gamers will question whether any mobile system can deliver the graphics horsepower needed to meet the expectations of those who experience 4K graphics or virtual reality on other consoles, what I see here is quite thrilling. The system is truly modular, too, and not just between docked/console and portable modes. You can remove the controller pads from either side of the handheld, for example, and play games while that handheld is propped up on a built-in kickstand. Two people can even compete on the same device, each with their own controller pad.

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And there are concessions to gamers from other platforms: The Switch gamepad looks a lot like an Xbox Wireless Controller, and features the same basic button layout. And the game graphics shown look just fine, thank you very much, and for the most part are not as cartoonish as those on previous Nintendo consoles. (Obviously, the Mario game that is shown is on the cartoonish side, by design.)

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In some ways, the Switch appears to one-up Microsoft’s Xbox Play Anywhere scheme, in the sense that you really can play Switch anywhere. With Microsoft’s solution, you’re limited by the size and portability of these devices on which you can play. The firm’s expensive Surface Book, for example, cannot successfully play any Xbox Play Anywhere title with any degree of graphical fidelity or performance.

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I’m impressed. Like many, I had written Nintendo off. But the Switch looks innovative and fun. I cannot wait to get one.

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    Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago

    If the system is $199, I'd buy one.

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    Komosis Alpha Member #127 - 1 month ago

    I agree that this console will have to hit all the industry sweet spots.  But, either way, I will be buying one.  I am a Nintendo addict.

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    bbold Alpha Member #669 - 1 month ago

    I can't wait to get one of these gems, too. I'm a huge Nintendo fanatic, mostly a big Zelda and Mario fan. I have the Wii U and the 3DS but greatly looking forward to this. Any word on internal storage capacity and sale date or price?

     

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    awright18 Alpha Member #405 - 1 month ago

    In a word, Brilliant! This will remind everyone of how innovative Nintendo can be.  I think the smartest thing about this is they are appealing to the people who like the handheld (and or mobile) games and those who enjoy console gaming.   This seems to be a really cool idea to meet both needs, be in both markets while manufacturing just one device.  I still think that mobile phones will dominate mobile gaming, but this will resonate with kids who use Nintendo's current hand helds, at least I think.   This seems like they will take back some market share like they did when the wii launched.  Who knows in a few years though if this will turn out to have been another fad.  I think if they coud put out a killer android phone that accepted those tiny game cartridges as well that might be one more step towards an awesome consumer experience.  I only say that because the portable system isn't something you are going to stick in your pocket and whip out while standing inline somewhere.   Anyway, I'm sure this will be a hit.

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      FreeJAC Alpha Member #1723 - 1 month ago
      In reply to awright18:

      I don't understand. They tried the weird tablet thingy with the Wii U, why do they think this Wii U 2.0 all of a sudden people are going to embrace the tablet thingy? At LEAST this time Wii U 2.0 will support gaming engines like Unity and Unreal which is a big reason why Wii U was sunk. They are trying to be in two camps at once, mobile and console gaming. We already all know how it works out when we combine a toaster and refrigerator. ;)

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      kenosando Alpha Member #1382 - 1 month ago
      In reply to FreeJAC:

      The WiiU wasn't a portable. This is actually the reverse of a WiiU - instead of a wireless gamepad that extends the stationary gaming console, the gaming console is the controller with modular controllers. They're not combining two unrelated device types (your silly toaster and fridge example) but taking one device and extending it to all their gaming reaches. I think l, as long as they have the quality games to run on it, can be successful.

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    nbates66 Alpha Member #1315 - 1 month ago

    whilst it looks interesting, battery life is a concern, also noting that apparently there is a vent on top and possibly a fan inside, how not-so-quiet my last Nintendo Wii was, how inefficient Nvidias precious Tegra processors have been (both heat and power perspective) and it seems there are a few hurdles.

     

    Also in the past devs have had difficulties porting to Nintendo Wii consoles in the past due to a lack of CPU power hindering things like AI algorithms and physics, since this thing is said to use an ARM Processor it may be restricted from that standpoint as well.

     

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      Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago
      In reply to nbates66:

      Tegra inefficient?  That's relative.  Nobody has a low power CPU with anywhere close to the GPU power.  If games are coded to use less CPU power and more GPU (even for compute), Tegra really shines.  Is it as fast as an AMD APU?  No.  But then it's still far more energy-efficient and far less expensive.  Intel is nowhere close.

      I'd be more weary about NVIDIA's driver and kernel support though because their lifecycle support contracts are horribly short and restrictive.

       

      PS Vita used an ARM processor.

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      nbates66 Alpha Member #1315 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Waethorn:
      Not impossible for it to do well, just alot of it will depend on the devs doing that coding optimization to utilize the GPU for things like physics and AI, balancing that with using the GPU for graphics, while also learning Nvidia's proprietary graphics API "NVN".
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      Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago
      In reply to nbates66:

      So is NVN just their new high-level API for CUDA on mobile then?

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    PracticalEdd Alpha Member #2305 - 1 month ago

    I really can't explain it, but for some reason I'm finding the Switch weirdly interesting, something about it just seems right to me.

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    scd147 Alpha Member #2281 - 1 month ago

    Not a single kid in the ad, and the parts look like a little less kid friendly than Nintendo is generally known for.  I'm on the fence about that.  On the one hand, like Joe Camel, get them while their young.  You've always known you could give a kid a Nintendo and its going to be kid tough at least to an extent.  Hell, when I moved into my house I dropped my Wii (packaged up with all the accessories) down a flight of stairs and they all still work.  Not sure any Xbox would have taken that beating.  The other thing is pretty much once you are a Mario, Zelda, or Metroid fan, you stay one for life. 

    On the other hand one of the big problems I have with Wii and Wii U is they never felt marketed to me, a long time Nintendo gamer going back to the NES.  This is also true of the GameCube at least when it launched, but they seemed to figure it out and get Mature titles on there.  Re-releasing it in Jet black instead of that purple helped too.  Anyway, later GameCube aside they all felt a little too kiddy for me.  I would tell people I didn't leave Nintendo, Nintendo left me.  Now it feels like they are coming after us again and I love that.  Let's hope this thing lives up to the hype.  Also, please give me some Metroid with a side of Zelda!!!  The other way around is fine too. 

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    Patrick3D Alpha Member #994 - 1 month ago

    I just hope they reduce the dead zone on the control sticks. Trying to blay BlackOps 3 on the Wii-U was a terrible experience. Going with nvidia for the processor makes me wonder if they are going to run the system on a custom build of Android with a walled-garden app store similar to the Amazon Fire or nvidia Shield? Would certainly make it easier to get apps for media services like Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, etc... on the system, as well as make it easier for all the Andorid/iOS developers they hired over the last three years to make games and apps for it.

    $249 for the tablet and base station would be reasonable, but this is Nintendo we're talking about, expect $299 and excuses.

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    Narg Alpha Member #420 - 1 month ago

    Hey, at least it's got an audio jack! :)

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    Matt Lohr Alpha Member #698 - 1 month ago

    For yet another product generation, Nintendo's valuable game IP will be trapped inside gimmicky and inferior hardware. I speculate they would make significantly more money by porting Mario et al. to iOS, Android, Xbox, and PlayStation.

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      Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Matt Lohr:

      I'd flip that and say that Nintendo's valuable hardware will be saddled with gimmicky and inferior game IP.

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      nbates66 Alpha Member #1315 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Matt Lohr:

      not sure i'd go that far, the idea is at least a somewhat different one that stands out between the Xbox One and PS4, i just fear there is too much chance the system's hardware won't hold up. I have these doubts because of things like the Nintendo Wii U (a device released less than 4 years ago!!) still had a resistive touchscreen on it instead of a capacitive one!

      (PS - that kickstand better not be flimsy plastic Nintendo... if it is most people will break it in a month haha)

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      Narg Alpha Member #420 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Matt Lohr:

      There's a big fat line between hardware porn and gaming.  While it's fun to keep both in the same context, there's no need for it in the long run.  Nintendo's Wii release proved that.  So, if the games rock, only hardware fanatics will put any weight on the specs to that level.  Or in other words, it's more about the game.  Get it?

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    BlueCaret Alpha Member #173 - 1 month ago

    Wow. Nintendo might actually hit it out of the park with this one. With the Wii U when it was announced all I could think of was "what? why?" but this thing makes so much sense!

    I use a Nintendo 3DS myself and love the portability of it as well as having actual controls and good games (vs smartphone), but occasionally I would love to put it up on the big screen and relax on the couch while playing the same game. I've also been tempted to get the Wii U for some of it's games but couldn't justify it just for those couple. Well Nintendo has found the perfect solution! Combine both of those consoles! I am super excited for this! This is something I've been hoping for but thought of as just a pipe dream.

    Way to go Nintendo! Back in the game!

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to BlueCaret:

      I think price point will be a big driver in determining success this time. There are adults, like yourself, that this will appeal to but for me I have a phone to do mobile gaming and when I come home I have consoles hooked up to a 4K TV. This doesn't seem like it would be any better than today's mobile gaming experience except that you can put it up on your TV (most likely in low res, <= 1080). For kids without a phone this could be very big assuming the price isn't three or four hundred dollars.

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      saqrkh Alpha Member #2290 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      Price will be key, but I can see the core console (no dock) coming in at $229 and the console with dock at $299. Nintendo can earn margin from the console dock, standalone controller, the micro-controllers, and possibly even other stuff. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if there are plans to connect a camera and/or motion controllers to the console dock. They can do quite a bit. 

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 1 month ago
      In reply to saqrkh:

      That seems way to expensive for what you get .  You can almost get an Xbox One S for that, and a PS4 slim. Sure they are not mobie...but, well we have tablets and mobiles for mobile gaming today. Why lug yet another thing with you , that needs to be charged..  and if you are only planning to use it connected to a TV, why get the less powerful console for same price you can get a much better one for.  Unless you really really want to play a specific Nintendo game. 

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      saqrkh Alpha Member #2290 - 1 month ago
      In reply to JudaZuk:

      Nintendo titles are the primary selling point of Nintendo consoles. I recently spent $199.99 on a New Nintendo 3DS XL primarily because I wanted to get back into the Pokemon games (and have only been playing those).

      The secondary selling point is the gaming experience itself. The presence of finely tuned thumb sticks and buttons is a marketable experience, one that Bluetooth accessories for phones do not match at this time. There are loads of RPGs and 'big' games on mobile that seek to emulate what you'd find on the 3DS, but these titles haven't displaced people from their 3DS. 

      People still carry their 3DS around because they love playing that particular game and their friends love to play as well. Moreover (esp. in Japan), there is infrastructure in public areas that cater to the 3DS in various ways. You can pick up special items, Pokemon, access keys, etc, by just having the 3DS accompany you in sleep mode. 

      In the end, it's just not an issue of what "why would you do X" but rather, "what are you doing" - i.e. the reality is showing us that a lot of people just love to lug around a 3DS. Beyond looking nice and playing well, they don't care about the horsepower underneath.

      The pricing of the core Switch gaming unit (i.e. tablet and micro-controllers) is probably going to sit right in between that of the 3DS XL ($199) and the Wii U ($299), but leaning more so on the 3DS XL. I also think we'll see Nintendo keep refreshing the hardware with better specs every 2 years, with the Switch 2.0 formally supplanting the 3DS/XL. 

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 1 month ago
      In reply to saqrkh: sure, some still carry around their old 3DS's, the Nintendo fans, but they are not that many.
      Sure, this thing will sell to them, and will probably keep Nintendo a float for a few more years, but in the long run?
      Either Nintendo need to make proper powerful hardware, or make their games available to systems most people actually use to game today.
      A third option is of course to scale back and be content at being a niche player, and that can be perfectly fine, pushing out more games with Mario and Zelda in them everywhere, go fir the cartoon fel like today, but it will never be bringing them any big money, and might lead them to where Nintendo is today..on a path to a slow death, and that is sad. I've been rooting for Nintendo for many years, but they keep releasing underpowered hardware and strange designs over and over...so I have given up.
      I can play my Nintendo favorites on a Raspberry Pi if I want, but will never by any Nintendo hardware again until they release anything remotely interesting, and this is not it

       

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      Skolvikings Alpha Member #2561 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      Except you can't play games like Skyrim on your smartphone, with a true gamepad experience to go with every game.

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    rbwatson0 Alpha Member #1592 - 1 month ago

    I wonder if all the classic games I bought for the wii will be able to transfer to this. Or will they have to be purchased again???

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      bbold Alpha Member #669 - 1 month ago
      In reply to rbwatson0:

      yes, all titles you purchased on the Wii U and/or 3DS should be transferable. Nintendo has tied that to your user ID. I was able to transfer most of my older DSi titles to the 3DS when that system came out.

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      zybch Alpha Member #2568 - 1 month ago
      In reply to bbold:

      Actually, Nintendo doesn't tie wiiware purchases to your ID.  The games themselves are tied to your account however, the account itself is tied to the console (at least that was the case when I checked about 6 months ago).

      So even though you can stick your ID on a new device (after deregistering it on your old one) you're still SoL, especially when the deregistering thing seems to not work most of the time.

      Discs or carts, no problem, but be prepared to call and fight with nintendo to keep ownership of your old games.

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      ibmthink Alpha Member #963 - 1 month ago
      In reply to rbwatson0:

      For the Wii? Don´t kid yourself... the chance that they are transferable are minimal.

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to ibmthink:

      Nintendo has been really good about backwards compatibility but also really good at making you pay for things you have bought before (digitally).

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      zybch Alpha Member #2568 - 1 month ago
      In reply to rbwatson0:

      Take a flying guess   hahaha

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    RickiTickiToc Alpha Member #523 - 1 month ago

    wireless controllers on a flight ?

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      Vuppe Alpha Member #1076 - 1 month ago
      In reply to RickiTickiToc:

      I thought BlueTooth was allowed on flights?

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    harmjr Alpha Member #1431 - 1 month ago

    I think this is a smart move for Nintendo. However I do not think adults will buy this but more for children.

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to harmjr:

      That was one thing that stood out to me in the video, I can't imagine four adults swarming around a 7" screen to play a game but I could see four kids doing that.

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      Skolvikings Alpha Member #2561 - 1 month ago
      In reply to harmjr:

      I'm an adult and I plan to get one.

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      Lopan Alpha Member #468 - 1 month ago
      In reply to harmjr:

      I think we can all remember how awesome it was to be a kid. And to have a game console targeted at the chidlins is pretty great of Nintendo. That is considering it isn't hecka expensive. For me I would have never seriously considered buying another Nintendo console until I saw this. It strikes a chord in me with my inner child, and I want one.

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      Narg Alpha Member #420 - 1 month ago
      In reply to harmjr:

      adults buy and play far more games than kids do these days, so they are targeting the prime market.  Plus, I think it shows the device may be rather expensive.

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    Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago

    Too many batteries....

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Waethorn:

      That does seem like a potential problem area depending on what they report the battery life of each component to be.

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      Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      I'm thinking more about sustainability.

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    jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago

    Those removable controller components seem too gimicky for what is otherwise is neat looking product. To me the portability is the selling point and they really look to be pushing that detachable controller aspect from the video.

     

    Curious about price as that will really be whether I get one of these for the entire house that collects dust and is never used (like the Wii U) or one for each kid that never gets used (like the DS).

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      It just occurred to me that the controller parts will be the equivelent of the DS stylus, easily lost but critical to gameplay. I hope they aren't expensive to replace. Maybe a pen loop would solve this problem.

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      BlueCaret Alpha Member #173 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      ROFL after that pen loop comment :D

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    Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 1 month ago

    So are those memory cards or the rumoured return of game cartridges?

    If they're memory cards, I'd bet they're proprietary.  If they're game cartridges, where do your savegames go?  On OTHER memory cards?  Are they proprietary?

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      Patrick3D Alpha Member #994 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Waethorn:

      Wii-U and 3DS both support regular memory cards for storing digital purchases, Nintendo just encrypts the download. No doubt they could use a single SD card slot to handle that and physical game cards for brick&mortar store sales. The device will certainly have some amount of internal storage as well, given the size of Wii-U games 128GB seems likely, enough for 5-6 AAA titles and all the Virtual Console classics.

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Waethorn:

      Well considering it is Nintendo .. it is most likely proprietary storage either way :/  They seem to just love making stupid things like that.

      It was the same with Playstation in the beginning, but I thing that was some remnants of the fact that the Playstation was after all designed for Nintendo in the first place :)  Thankfully Sony stopped with proprietary storage, I doubt Nintendo have yet.. 

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    GeekWithKids Alpha Member #569 - 1 month ago

    I'm not sure if I'd get one for me, but I know my 10 year old will be wanting one for his next birthday. 

     

    Our family has tried most of the recent consoles (mostly as gifts for my kids) over the years, PS3, XBox 360, Wii, the Wii-U, X-Box One and a few different DS modes I have to say I'm excited to see how the Switch plays. 

     

    I think it's clear consoles have to change to meet the changing reality of modern Smart phones and Tablets.  I find it harder and harder to find the time to sit down in front of the X-Box for some gaming. But I always seem to find a few minutes here and there for some Gaming on my Phone.

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    JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 1 month ago

    seems rather pointless, I wish Nintendo could just realize that the party is over, like Sega did years ago, and stop making quirky low powered consoles and instead focus on making games, and making them availible where most gamers are today.

    Will it sell?  Well yes, there are still Nintendo fans out there, but they are becoming less and less, because Nintendo keep stubbornly make low powered hardware that only let you play specific types of games.

    A PS and Xbox  could run any game Nintendo has to offer without a problem, but then also offers so much more.  So if you choose between consoles, and you only can buy one,  why would you pick the one that basically only lets you play some random game based on Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong or a mix of all of them.. or a Picachu.. if you can pick a more powerful system that can offer you low-end games, indi games, and high end games with vast variation.. ?? Then you really really need to be a Nintendo fan to limit your experinece to pick the Nintendo console. 

    If Nintendo would just release their games on Xbox and Playstation, and why not also on Tablets: Windows, iOs and Android ..  they would sell games easily.   Personally I feel it is time to move on from Mario and co... they keep rehashing the same old characters in everything over and over again.  But even if i feel that way, I would  most likely buy some Nintendo games out of Nostalgia , and even new games if they are any good if it was availible to Xbox as an example  But I would never pay for Nintendo hardware just to play 1 or 2 games that seem kind of fun.

    Because after all, is really anyone making any money on selling consoles?  Sony and Microsoft sure isnt.  

    They sell them at a loss, and make their profit in selling games and Services.   So why Nintendo?? Why are you not just selling games and services.. why waste money developing yet another strange thing that will only sell to a linited type of market.. and most likely at a loss, and then you cant even make up the money on games, because you consumer base is much to small. 

     

    That is what killed the Wii ... it was low powered, but kind of uniqe, and lots of fun for families so in that case it did not matter... but they made no money on the console really .they planned to make that up selling games.  But they hardly sold any games at all.

    Because they made the huge misstake of bundled all the games that  a majority of families wanted with the console ..  so you bought the Wii for you family, you had lots of fun with it .. but most people never ever bought a game for it after that.  You had the Tennis game, the bowling game and you were basically set . Some maybe bought some accessories, but that was rather limited.. 

    And of course the Nintendo fans bought games .. but not the large base of normal consumers/family that actually bought the thing and made it an initial success .that then flopped..  

     

     

     

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      zybch Alpha Member #2568 - 1 month ago
      In reply to JudaZuk:

      MS and Sony break even on sales.  Gone are the days of sony taking a $300-$350 bath for every PS3.  Other than that, you're pretty much spot on.

       

      Also, even though its a youtube clip, the framarate while in 'portable' mode seemed really low compared to when attached to that fugly dock.

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      saqrkh Alpha Member #2290 - 1 month ago
      In reply to JudaZuk:

      ...because there's nothing quite like a solid Pokemon game, and that is why you'd buy the Switch (or the 3DS XL today or the fleet of Nintendo handhelds of the past). It's essentially the same reason why many of us prefer Halo or Forza and would buy the Xbox One, even though there are other FPS and racing games out there on the PS4 and PC. If you have enough people who apparently value a specific set of experiences and content, why shouldn't you try to milk them? 

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    zybch Alpha Member #2568 - 1 month ago

    This really just looks like yet another gimicky easy-to-break fugly (the dock, of god the dock) that, like the Wii and especially the U, will have tremendous initial sales if Nintendo don't do their usual trick of limiting supply to create demand and buzz.  But only for a month or two.

    Portable gaming on a dedicated device is dead.  The Vita was an amazing piece of gear but it never gained any traction against the juggernaught of phone gaming.  It was too big (though smaller than the switch) and cumbersome, especially when you already had a 4-6" device in your pocket with a much larger game library.  And knowing Nintendo the games are going to be uber expensive, especially compared to phone ones.

    There is a reason sony have dropped the vita and channeled all their efforts into, as Paul says, the monoithic console.  Non-phone mobile gaming is dead, and this bizzare franken-console isn't going to change that.

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      Patrick3D Alpha Member #994 - 1 month ago
      In reply to zybch:

      With over 58 million 3DS handhelds sold to date Sony and Microsoft combined don't even come close to the success of Nintendo handheld systems. Nintendo combining their console and handheld fanbases together is a brilliant move that will make Sony and Microsoft shit their pants with jealousy. The only thing Nintendo needs to be concerned about is reliability and "friendliness" of the hardware, the Switch doesn't look to be entirely kid friendly and the video was only targeting 20-something singles.

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 1 month ago
      In reply to zybch:
      Watching the controllers slide a part and in to the "console" ..and all over the place my initial thought is ... that will break ..fast.
      Anyone who has ever used any electronic devices, made in plastic, that had anything that needs to slide in or out of something knows that that works fine the first times..then the groves gets worn and it all becomes more and more loose .  And do you really want the controllers at the end of such a devices to be wobbely...?
      and if you loose one if them, can you even buy a replacement for just that part, lets say left side controller?
      Sure the versatility looks cool on video, but is it really practical? .. no, not really 
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    Pierre Masse Alpha Member #1529 - 1 month ago

    *Yawn*