Apple to Launch New MacBook Air, Mac Mini Later This Year

Posted on August 20, 2018 by Mehedi Hassan in Apple with 46 Comments

Apple is reportedly working on two new Mac products for later this year. The company has already introduced a new MacBook Pro upgrade just more than a month ago, and it’s now looking to introduce upgrades for the MacBook Air and the Mac Mini, according to Bloomberg.

While Apple already sells the regular MacBook as an alternative to the MacBook Air, the company has continued selling the Air, which only recently picked up a minor processor refresh. But later this year, Apple plans to launch anew MacBook Air with an improved design which includes the company’s Retina displays, and smaller bezels. Apple’s MacBook Air is the company’s only product that doesn’t include the high-resolution Retina display, so this will very much be a welcome addition.

Cupertino is also planning on launching a new Mac Mini later this year. The company hasn’t upgraded the Mac Mini in years, and the upgraded device is expected to include new processor and storage options. Interestingly, Bloomberg reports that the upgrade will be focused towards professional users like app developers and for home server/media purposes.

Both the new Mac devices are likely going to launch later this year — sometime around October — after the company launches its new iPhone devices. If you are an Apple fan, there’s a ton of things to be hyped about: three new iPhones, new Apple Watches, new iPad Pros, and now the new Macs. The party should begin next month.

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46 responses to “Apple to Launch New MacBook Air, Mac Mini Later This Year”

  1. Winner

    ...and our bezels are thin and they are AMAZING...

  2. CaedenV


    I know there are not that many Mac Mini sales out in the wild, but you have no idea how many churches use them for running glorified ppt presentations... and they just dont keep up with multiple 1080p monitors doing multimedia. This will be a big upgrade for many. Even basic Intel graphics will be a huge upgrade for them.

    • Stooks

      In reply to CaedenV:

      I have a 2015 Mac Mini, loaded i7, 16gig of RAM, SSD etc. I tried connecting it to my Xbox One X monitor (cheapish 27inch LG 4K) and it could only do 30hz as the intel video card could not push past 30hz. It was not a good experience.

      They have been using that same hardware since 2014. I would think that somebody that needed to replace their Mini would have moved onto something more powerful and cheaper by this point. No wonder Mac sales were down 13% last quarter. Releasing crazy expensive Macbook Pro that have heat issues and the same lame keyboard is not going to do much to change that.


        In reply to Stooks:

        I don't think this is solely an Apple problem. If you purchase any Intel graphics desktop or laptop PC with an HDMI port, it won't drive a 4K display at 60Hz. Intel won't solve this problem until they ship their 10nm devices in volume. Cannon Lake was basically abandoned (they make one processor but it has disabled graphics) so Ice Lake will be the first Intel chips that supports the HDMI 2.0 specification.

      • nbplopes

        In reply to Stooks:

        Funny. I have a Mac Mini from 2009, still with DVI outputs and connects my DELL through a DVI/HDMI converter just fine.

        hummm. It seams that you may be fully loaded on the wrong places :)

        • Stooks

          In reply to nbplopes:

          Please read what I posted.

          My Mini connects just fine to the LG27UD69 just fine. However at 4K the mini can only output 4K at a max of 30hz. You get ghosting and such when moving windows because the HZ is so low. Limitation of the 2014 Intel chip used in the current Mini.

          • nbplopes

            In reply to Stooks:

            I don’t understand what you are complaining about than. You wanted a product you bought to connect to your 4K monitor at 60hz when the supplier never made that claim, not even close?

            I call this rant nothing but a fake event than.

            An event would be if a vendor makes a claim or suggestion towards a system working in a particular way and that is not the case. I get plenty of those with Windows, plenty.

            Want an example? Now everything is USB-C right? Following Apple move, Windows vendors are adopting USB-C to do all sorts of things yet cutting corners . The result its a total mess. For the none expert is all the same, yet their opinion is based on half facts, that is where Windows and Windows devices operate. People need to become a PC expert to not be taken for a ride.

            EDIT: You may vote me down, but all you seam to describing in your rants are simply non events.

      • skane2600

        In reply to Stooks:

        I don't think the target market for a Mac Mini is the same as that for a 4K monitor. Now if they make the new version "Pro" it might change. Of course a "Pro" version kind of turns the original concept upside-down. The whole idea was an entry-level device that could ease a user's transition from a Windows PC to a Mac.

        • Stooks

          In reply to skane2600:

          Why not? 4K computing (not gaming ) is not particularly taxing. Document work, email web surfing etc.

          In fact MacOS does DPI scaling way better than Windows. With that Mac Mini and that monitor the native resolution is 1920x1080 HiDPI mode....retina. Basically 1080p with 4K of pixels, looks fantastic. Problem is Apple, for whatever reason did not upgrade the Intel Graphics chip for 4 years now???? It would not have been hard say in 2016 to upgrade it a bit and keep the price/size/power the same.

          • curtisspendlove

            In reply to Stooks:

            Yup. The lack of updates is simply a bit baffling to me.

            The only thing I can really think of is that they (quite erroneously) assumed “Pro” needs would be met with the wonderful new MacBook with Touch Bar or the iMac Pro.

            Since they seem to be effectively backfilling from that mistaken assumption, I’m dreaming big for the Mac mini.

            I’d love to see them upgrade to the newer Coffee Lake 8th gen processors (oddly, I think the thermals would be better in the mini than the MacBook Pro.)

            I want to be able to connect multiple 4K monitors (at 60mhz).

            I want to be able to drive an eGPU enclosure from it. (Not sure I would actually pull the trigger on the eGPU and a graphics card. But it would be nice to have the option.)

            I want the good new processors with the additional cores. And I want a 32Gb/512GB option.

            I expect it won’t compete with the new Pro in the top end, and I’m fine with that.

  3. jwpear

    So, will the new Air have a better keyboard than the MacBook and MacBook Pro?


    First it was the great updates to Apple's MacBook Pro.. (So glad I waited..)

    Second is to upgrade the entry level machines .. MacBook and Mac Mini...

    Third will be a new Modular Mac Pro and Apple Cinema Display...

    Tim Cook's Mac Hat Trick ... restoring Mac growth in three shots.

    • Stooks

      In reply to TEAMSWITCHER:

      So the updates to the Throttle book 2018 were great?

      Upgrade to entry level machines we have not even seen yet, just rumors.

      And the mythical Mac Pro and cinema display.

      So one botched update and two rumors. You should setup a direct deposit from your pay check to Apple.

      • curtisspendlove

        In reply to Stooks:

        So the updates to the Throttle book 2018 were great?

        For most people those are great updates to the MacBook Pro line.

        There is a very specific workload that will trigger it to throttle.

        For people with “burst” style flows the additional cores are an excellent upgrade.

        For instance, I expect significant speed boosts to my workflow and little to no throttling, were I to upgrade (which is still on the table depending on what else is released).

        Those that need high sustained bus throughput, CPU, or GPU loads shouldn’t be using laptops. (And, by the way, the slimline Windows laptops with similar chips suffer from “throttlegate” too. But nice try.)

        (In contrast, my wife’s Alienware laptop handles those sustained graphics loads like a champ. But it is also 17” and she needs a wheelbarrow to cart it around. We had to buy a huge duffel bag for it, since they apparently don’t make a “cute” laptop bag large enough for 17” gaming laptops. Guess who gets to carry it around whenever we LAN. )

        • Stooks

          In reply to curtisspendlove:

          Yes for bursty work the Macbook Pro with the i9 gives you what you payed for. For heavy CPU/GPU work it throttles and never gives you the power of the i9.

          Yes Apple "patched" it. Instead of letting the CPU throttle its self under load at 100c, now the Macbook throttles the CPU by choking the power to it and keeping it at its base speed.

          I watched both of David Lee's youtube videos the before and after the patch. He is the guy that brought this to everyone's attention and worked with Apple.

          In his second video (cant link it here) he had 6 - 15inch laptops. 3 thin and light, and 3 thicker no as light. 5 of them were running Windows. All have the i9. The Macbook, post patch, came in last place running the same video cutting test with Premier. The other 2 thin PC laptops did throttle, but way less than the Macbook. The thicker 3 laptops never throttled and ran at full speed.

          Apple jammed a faster/hotter CPU into an existing case and never modified it to handle the increased heat load. I am not sure why anyone at Apple would think that was going to work. Now they have throttled it so that you never get the full potential of the CPU. Class Action is bound to come at some point. This after all the negativity from the 2016/2017 model with the keyboard issues, sound issues, their own heat issues, lack of ports and removal of the magsafe.....they should have known better.

          Maybe that is why Mac sales were down 13% last quarter?

          • curtisspendlove

            In reply to Stooks:

            I wish everyone good luck with their class action lawsuit.

            I didn’t actually search because I’m in a mobile browser, but I’m pretty sure the page says “up to” at least eight times.

            • nbplopes

              In reply to curtisspendlove:

              If class action lawsuits over severe CPU throttling were consumer winners, the entire Windows Surface line would be extinct a long time ago.

              Anyway, I would never buy a Core i9 on a laptop. If my work depended on the upmost CPU/GPU sustained performance, desktop would be the only solution for me.

              Still I do think it sucks when systems throttle way beyond what its expected. When that is the case it looks like a lie is being played at the buyers expense. I had that feeling several instances of Windows laptops.

              • curtisspendlove

                In reply to nbplopes:

                Agreed. Everyone is quite enthused with the laptop form factor, but it still contains a lot of trade-offs.

                I don’t even bump CPUs up anymore in laptop configs. You just don’t get that much more gain for the cost in most circumstances.

                For me, I accept the cost of lighter travel. Which is why I have gravitated back toward desktops for heavy lifting. I don’t think Apple will ever release a larger laptop chassis with more thermal room. So you are stuck with “up to” boost speeds and throttling.

                Although I don’t think they are being deceptive, per se. I don’t recall a laptop marketing website to ever proclaim sustained load. The only thing that has come close is the gaming laptop sites, but even then you might get something like “desktop-class gaming” or some other marketing gobbledygook. They never claim it is just like a desktop.

                Hell I have had CPU and GPU throttling on mid-range Windows desktops. :: shrug :: (This is why I’ve gone back to building my own Windows desktops, so I can be confident my cooling setup is sufficient.)

                Any good gaming website reviewing hardware will list the compromises you get in a gaming laptop. A gaming laptop will never be able to take the same load a gaming desktop could. This applies across the board for laptops. You are *always* compromising with “mobile” chipsets, if only slightly.

                • nbplopes

                  In reply to curtisspendlove:

                  Yes. II think my next combination will be a Desktop, probably iMac and an iPad Pro 12.9” or similar.

                  These holidays I only used the iPad Pro for office work when needed, and worked very well. You know, doing Skype sessions while typing a doc, taking notes, doing presentations remotely with Microsoft Teams, writing a white paper and thinking about marketing our products, some accounting ... more office stuff. I only opened my laptop when I needed to intervene technically in our software, but only happened twice.

                  Yes the keyboard could be better, but it did not made me inefficient. The iPad Pro battery life, weight and performance made everything a breeze while on the go.

                  I only need a mouse and Remote Desktop to leave the laptop behind when out from the office.

                • curtisspendlove

                  In reply to nbplopes:

                  I’m leaning toward working heavy at the desk and lean when mobile too. I’ve just found lately carrying a laptop around everywhere isn’t needed in my newer roles.

                  When I do code, I like the power of a desktop behind me. When I’m doing project management stuff, I just need a web browser and the largest screen I’m comfortable with.

  5. Pierre Masse

    The most inexpensive out-of-date Macbook Air is currently 1 200$ in Canada, plus 279$ for the garantee, and you have to pay 1 700$ or more of real money in the end just to be in the Apple ecosystem with a sub-par computer. Then you need a phone, and a tablet, and a watch because it's sooo tempting... Even if they drop the price a lot I'm staying with my 350$ Chromebook, mid-range phone and my cheap tablet because... I guess i'm cheap.

  6. wunderbar

    an actual modern-ish Macbook Air at the $1000 pricepoint would be a huge thing for apple. They've all but abandoned the person who doesn't think an iPad can replace a laptop, but doesn't want to spend gobs of money for a Macbook Pro.

    I'm not saying that it'll bring apple to 20% marketshare or anything, but I know a number of people who bought a Macbook Air around 2011/12 because at the time Apple hardware was just flat out better than anything in the windows space, and switched back to windows because Apple basically hasn't changed anything about the Air since then. I'm literally one of those people.

  7. skane2600

    The only Apple computer I've ever owned was a used Mac Mini given to me by a client for developing a cross-platform application. It was probably a 2nd generation with a CD player. Pretty decent but pretty much unsupported these days. I'd certainly consider buying a new one if it were truly upgraded (not like the last "upgrade") and not too expensive.

  8. Stooks

    "If you are an Apple fan, there’s a ton of things to be hyped about: three new iPhones, new Apple Watches, new iPad Pros, and now the new Macs"

    I am not sure many Apple fans are super hyped about the possibility of new Mac's. I simply hate my 2017 15inch Macbook Pro these days. The keyboard SUCKS and I have not had that sticky key issue. It is just horribly shallow and hard to get used too. I type on my ThinkPad and it is OH SO MUCH better. I am living in dongle hell with the Macbook.

    In January, when they drop the 2017 13inch Macbook Pro, the cheapest Macbook Pro, 13 inch, will be $1799 with a i5, 8gigs of RAM and a 256gig SSD. Do you know how much Windows Laptop you can get for $1800???

    Apple has finally removed too many useful features (actual ports, magsafe, real keyboard) and jacked the price so high I am done with Mac's. I am still a iOS device fan (iphone, ipad, homepod, appletv, watch) but I do not need a Mac anymore once my remaining Mac's get retired.

    • SenorGravy

      In reply to Stooks:

      Preach. I have a 2016 15” MacBook Pro and it’s the first laptop I’ve ever owned that I hated. Totally useless. Can’t type on it. Can’t connect anything to it. Not even, strangely, a brand new iPhone 8+. I ended up going down to Best Buy and buying a Samsung laptop on clearance that is now my primary computer. Imagine that- a $2,900 laptops sits in the closet gathering dust, while a $749 clearance model does all the work.

      Ugh. I hate myself for buying into Apple’s bullshit.

      • ivan19998

        > I have a 2016 15” MacBook Pro and it’s the first laptop I’ve ever owned that I hated.

        I can't see your point. As well as why to connect iPhone to computer.

        I have 2016 model with touchbar and didn't have any major problem with it. I had sticky key but it solved by air blower. And I had the same issues with each laptop I owned: sometimes dust just makes some keys unable to be pressed.

        Re connectivity, I enjoy dock-like experience when I connect external display by single wire and got laptop charging.

        • Stooks

          In reply to ivan19998:

          It is ironic to say the least, that the latest and greatest Macbook Pro with USB-C only can't connect to the latest and greatest iPad Pro or iPhone X with their USB-A Lightning cables.

          Hey but there is a dongle for that!

      • Addkeyboardtoipad

        In reply to SenorGravy: This sounds like you're either . . . an impulsive shopper, or you're paid to promote Samsung in comment sections. How could you not know going in that the MBP only has usb c connectors? And what exactly do you need to plug your iPhone into your computer for? I don't think I've connected an iPhone to a computer in about 5 years. I'm also guessing you never needed a Mac in the first place if you could switch to windows without skipping a beat which again makes me wonder . . . what compelled you to shell out $2900 for a 15" MacBook Pro in the first place?

        Ugh. I hate myself for scrolling down to the comment section.


        In reply to SenorGravy:

        Ah, you should have waited... The 2016 MacBook Pro wasn't worth the upgrade. The keyboard was first generation, Type-C cables were uncommon, and the processors were still just dual and quad core. Less than two years later .. we're have third generation butterfly switch keyboards, Quad and Six core processors, plentiful Type-C peripherals and cables, bigger batteries, better speakers, True Tone displays, bigger storage options, and DDR4 ram up to 32 gigabytes. Today's MacBook Pro only looks the same .. under the hood so much has changed.

      • curtisspendlove

        In reply to SenorGravy:

        Ugh. I hate myself for buying into Apple’s bullshit.

        You really should resell that MacBook. You should get pretty close to what you paid. Though I’d try to beat any Mac hardware releases in the fall since that will ding the resale value a bit.

        I can definitely understand your confusion and dissatisfaction though, since Apple doesn’t clearly show any images of their hardware on their worldwide website. In the future I’d recommend trying out a laptop in the store before buying it. That allows you to take the keyboard for a spin and look at the ports. I’ve also heard that there are one or two people on YouTube that upload videos reviewing items one might eventually spend $3,000 on. I guess that is in case there isn’t a computer store nearby? I dunno. This stuff confuses me.

        Pretty sure Apple still has that 14 day money back no questions asked refund policy. I guess the dust bunnies would have been lonely had you taken Apple up on that refund though. (Oh, look at that, it is right there on their legal page. But that one really is kinda graphics-sparse...)

        Oh, wait. Sorry, I forgot those “policies” are just a sham and if you try to take advantage of them Apple sends out a few guys (oddly enough armed with tommy guns) to your residence or business. They cock the weapons, train them on you, and hand over a card reading “welcome to the ecosystem, sucker” in nice, neat 14pt San Francisco.

    • Pierre Masse

      In reply to Stooks:

      And how are you gonna sync your tasks, calendar and stuff? Oh, you were using third party apps. You never were into Apple ecosystem after all.

      • offTheRecord

        In reply to Pierre Masse:

        Which Chromebook do you use?

          • offTheRecord

            In reply to Pierre Masse:

            Not sure why someone downvoted your reply. Maybe they think the mention of another OS or hardware device sullies the Apple brand (yes, I know what's going to happen).

            I almost bought the Samsung 3 last year when Best Buy had the 4/32 GB version for $199 during the holiday sales, but as so often happens, it sold out right before I pulled the trigger. Now, they have a 64 GB option, but at $280 it has me waiting to see whether something newer appears with a more recent CPU than the N3060.

            Okay, we now return to the previously scheduled show.

      • Stooks

        In reply to Pierre Masse:

        WTF does that have to do with the Macbook Hardware?

        I use Office 365, all my tasks, email, and calendar items are in sync on all of my devices. My iPad, my iPhone, my 2017 Macbook Pro, my 2015 Mac Mini, my 3 Windows 10 computers. I also sync my iPhone photos using the OneDrive upload.

        I have always used Photoshop/Premiere elements both on Mac and PC to manage/edit my photos and videos. OneDrive allows me to grab photos from multiple sources (iPhone, downloaded to a Mac or PC) and put them in one place. I then use my most powerful computer to manage all of that via the Adobe Products.

        I use, or my family uses Apple Music family plan. So we can get to our music, from our iPhone's, iPad's, Apple TV's, our HomePod in the Kitchen.....or ( I know this is crazy hard to understand) from iTunes on a Mac or PC.

        We have in my house, 5 iPhones, 5 iPad's, 3 Apple TV's, one HomePod, 2 Apple Watches, 2 Mac's and 3 cars that support Apple Car Play......what part of not being into the Apple ecosystem were you talking about?

        I have been a Mac user since the Mac SE, which I still have today and it actually boots up to its 20meg SCSI drive 31 years later. We got that in 1987 (my dad did). I used it while in college.

        All that said I do not like the choices Apple has made with the Mac. Go online and you will find out I am not the only one. They Keyboard is not liked by the majority of users if for nothing else the lack of travel. It is super shallow and bottoms out, making noise in the process. Never mind the fact that so many people are having issues with tiny particles of whatever killing the keyboard. Out of warrenty it was a $600 fix because Apple glues the battery to the bottom of the keyboard....and that is why iFixit gives them a 1 out of 10 for repair-ability. That is why there are multiple states trying to pass laws that will allow users to repair their own computers, and Apple is fighting those laws. They keyboard sucks. I have over $200 in dongles for my 2017 Macbook Pro so I can use things like USB drives, HDMI monitors, SD cards from my camera's etc. The touchbar is a complete gimmick. The MagSafe which was a great Apple invention is now gone. At work we have seen people trip over the power cord on some new Macbooks draging them to the floor. That nice aluminum shell dents really nice and does not pop back out like a plastic PC shell.

    • ivan19998

      Obs, new keyboard is not for everyone. However I actually prefer it to one in older macs. I had to get used to it (for about 2 days) but then, my typing speed improved by approx 30%. Ports are not so important for me because I mostly use wireless devices and for wired ones I just purchased corresponding cables.

    • curtisspendlove

      In reply to Stooks:

      I see where you are going, but if you don’t care about the Touch Bar (and most people shouldn’t), you can get a perfectly fine i5 8GB/128Gb for $1,299.

      That laptop should do anything most people would want to do with a laptop. macOS tends to run leaner than Windows, so the RAM and storage won’t be horribly inadequate.

      If you are doing development with VMs, you’ll want more RAM and storage. If you are doing graphics heavy stuff, you’ll probably want a better machine (but you would probably already know that).

      If you want to run anything more than casual games, you probably aren’t reading this post.

      I’m very curious to see if the new laptop changes Apple’s entry level story, which is pretty poor at the moment. If they do it right, it will be the new proper entry laptop to replace the Air. I can’t recommend that thing and feel good about it nowadays. Even though it is still, currently, the best Apple laptop for a vast majority of users. (Which is just sad, and I hope Apple is a bit embarrassed by that fact. I hope this is evidence that they did recognize it a while basck and just needed time to adjust the lineup.)

      Man...I hope the new Mini isn’t *too* expensive. I’m sure the new Pro will be.

      • Stooks

        In reply to curtisspendlove:

        The $1299 Macbook you are talking about goes away at the end of this year. Apple announced that when the 2018's came out. They have 7th gen CPU's. What can you buy for $1299 on the PC side? Will it have a larger SSD, more RAM, better ports, a touch screen?

        In January of 2019 the cheapest 13inch Macbook Pro will be $1799 and all Macbook Pro's will come with the TouchBar.

        I have never played games on my Mac's because honestly the selection of games is pretty bad. It is usually old stuff that gets wrapped in wine or whatever and run's just OK only on the higher end Mac's. The fans go nuts on Macbooks when you play those games. When I was down on Windows (Vist then 8) I still kept a gaming PC but did everything else computing on a Mac.

        Apple's low end computing options are a mess right now. Mac Mini, super old hardware and everything is soldered in. Macbook....fanless CPU the initial model would throttle playing a HD youtube video. The latest version is not much faster but hey it is thin, quiet, has only one USB-C port and starts at $1299. The Macbook Air is old hardware (CPU, screen, RAM) as well but is cheaper than the Macbook, has a better keyboard, two USB-A ports, thunderbolt and a SD card reader, plus Magsafe.

        How are they going to align this stuff and what will be the new price points? Will the new Air get the new keyboard, lose useful ports and lose the Magsafe...and get a higher price?

        • curtisspendlove

          In reply to Stooks:

          The $1299 Macbook you are talking about goes away at the end of this year.

          Yup. And as mentioned, I expect them to replace it with a similarly priced new Mac. (My guess would be probably the one rumored in this article.)

          I’ve always thought the “non Touchbar MacBook Pro was a very strange offering. Like it’s there to fill a very small hole in the lineup: you want a retina laptop around the price, size, and style of the MacBook Air and are ok with a few compromises? Huh. Weird.

          It is almost like they plan the various product lineup years in advance, no?

          It is not a *great* option, due to said compromises. But I have recommended it over the Air for people who want something a bit more modern, that doesn’t make their eyes bleed, and they don’t care about using (or flat out don’t need) a dongle for SD cards, etc.

          Believe it or not, a *lot* of people use a laptop without hooking anything other than a power cord into it. Crazy! I know!

          (Your comment was not wrong, per se. I was merely pointing out another option. I don’t think Apple sees the MacBook Pro line as the consumer level lineup.

          Since this article is about the new consumer level laptops, and maybe a Pro level mini... Whatever is released is unlikely to be in the MacBook Pro category if it doesn’t have a Touch Bar and hits the lower price point.

          The cheapest MacBook Pro is likely to remain the lowest-end 13” with Touch Bar version. It remains to be seen if there will be any price adjustments to the MacBook Pro line. I’m guessing probably not.)

          What can you buy for $1299 on the PC side? Will it have a larger SSD, more RAM, better ports, a touch screen?

          Got a bit of time to look a couple things up. Sure, you can buy the “cheaper” Windows alternatives, but I like buying a premium feeling device.

          So a 13” XPS 2-1 is pretty sweet.

          Starting at $1,199 it’s current configuration is a 7th gen core i5, 8GB/256GB. It certainly has more than 2 USB-C ports.

          The XPS is a gorgeous laptop and has a QHD touchscreen.

          It also has double the drive space.

          (I find it interesting that if you want to upgrade the RAM or SSD they’ll charge you the same $200 for either that Apple charges.)


          Most of your points are quite subjective. I haven’t plugged anything that wasn’t a Logitech wireless dongle (my coding keyboard/ mouse are Bluetooth with quick-change paired to my Mac, iPhone, and iPad—though I use that a lot less now handoff and Messages work more seamlessly on my Mac as I can send/receive SMS right on my Mac), a monitor, or power supply into a port in years. (Oops, take that back, I use a USB docking hub at work, which, by the way quite gracefully sidesteps “dongletown”—technically I’m still in dongletown, but it is like I have a personal assistant that connects all my cables when I hand him a single USB cable). Incidentally I also use docking stations for my Windows laptops, though I’ll admit I then have a veritable plethora or ports. But it would be silly to unplug something from a port on the docking stations and instead plug it directly into the laptop.

          Unfortuately I do have a rant about USB-C and it’s as of yet unfulfilled promises. But I digress.

          I would use precisely three ports on that XPS. USB-C (power), USB-C (display), and USB-C (dock).

          I dont like touch screens on laptops. I get that I’m one of the narrowing minority who feel that way. Regardless it’s nice to have for those that want it. (I think Apple should probably add touchscreens to at least the laptop lineup. I think a lot of people would like that. But I expect we would see that reflected in the price for several years—the Windows PC ecosystem seems to be mostly past the touchscreen markups on the premium brands. I also think I would be enamored with Apple’s version of Surface Studio...but alas, again I digress.)

          I would like to see Apple offer 256GB SSDs default on the pricier models for the same base price. But I don’t ever expect that. It is a bit painful to spend $400 to bump a MacBook up to my minimums. The XPS would only cost an additional $200.

          I would also point out that my typical Mac laptop lasts me 3-5 years.

          My typical Windows laptop lasts me 2 - 3 years.

          I consider that that a very important part of my computer purchasing math.

          I have found over the course of approximately two decades of buying laptops, the “per year” price on my Macs is usually noticeably lower.

          (Yes, technically the display is more than USB-C, but that isn’t as funny, and it’s also identical on the MacBook. So...moot.)

        • nbplopes

          In reply to Stooks:

          "The $1299 Macbook you are talking about goes away at the end of this year. Apple announced that when the 2018's came out. They have 7th gen CPU's. What can you buy for $1299 on the PC side? Will it have a larger SSD, more RAM, better ports, a touch screen?

          In January of 2019 the cheapest 13inch Macbook Pro will be $1799 and all Macbook Pro's will come with the TouchBar. ..."

          Please stop making up fake events. Just stop.

      • Andi

        In reply to curtisspendlove:

        "macOS tends to run leaner than Windows". The Snow Leopard days are far away from us. Windows10 requirements are much lower than macos and runs adequately on lower end hardware that macos won't even boot.

        • Stooks

          In reply to Andi:

          I agree, MacOS is not leaner. I use both all the time. My Mac's are not slow (hardware) and neither are my Windows 10 computers. Windows 10 just feels snappier. MacOS does not feel slow but does not have the pep Windows 10 does....and yes I have turned off the lame animations in MacOS.

          I open up say OmniGraffle Pro on 2017 15inch Macbook Pro with its quad core I7 and PCIE SSD vs Visio on my ThinkPad, dual core i7 with Samsung 960 PCIE SSD. Visio is way faster. Office apps faster on Windows as well. Not slow on a Mac just noticeably faster on Windows.

          Maybe its the 32gigsg of DDR4 on my ThinkPad vs the 16gigs of DDR3 on the Macbook. The Mac cost 3k and the ThinkPad cost me $1500 at most (cant remember after upgrading the SSD and RAM....MY SELF).

          • curtisspendlove

            In reply to Stooks:

            Windows 10 just feels snappier. MacOS does not feel slow but does not have the pep Windows 10 does

            Interesting. I have the exact opposite experience. Perhaps it’s the types of applications I’m using, but even OS level stuff seems slower in Windows (like bringing up Control Panel / Settings).

            Regardless, “speed testing” opening file explorer vs Finder is pretty silly.

            My observations were simply in base storage and memory used by the system and under development loads. Chrome and Docker consistently take far more RAM in Windows than on my Macs.

            But again, the entire architecture is completely different so it doesn’t really matter if Chrome under Windows is idling with 100MB more RAM (with the same set of tabs open) than macOS. Modern OSs are quite good with resource management. And I don’t care about the specifics.

            My only point was 8GB of RAM and 128GB SSD should be plenty for most common users of a Mac. (I personally don’t run anything less than 16/256 but I don’t go under that in Windows either.) And in my experience I need about double the RAM and bout 1.2x - 1.4x the SSD space for the “same” dev environment on Windows.

            At this point I’m wondering if WSL is a contributing factor in the difference in speed and memory usage on the Windows setup. :: shrug ::

  9. bpech


    Not a bit excited about boosting Apple's great news about gouging it's s**kers, I mean customers, another time.