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Apple Mac Mini MGEQ2LL/A – Intel Core i7 3.0GHz, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD – Silver (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084GBZGDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_7SD8595X7XT9CRKG5XAX

I’m thinking of buying this Mac Mini. But am I missing out on anything buying an older and non M1 model? Never owned a Mac either.

Need advice from Mac users and what they think. Thanks I’m advanced!

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33 responses to “Need Recommendations and Criticism”

  1. simont

    Apple is going to stop supporting the Intel based versions at some point in the future, so rather buy an non-Intel/M1 version.

  2. ghostrider

    Your considering buying a Mac for what reason? Do you actually need one, is it out of curiosity or do you just have money to burn?

  3. j5

    Thanks to everyone who gave their tips and recommendations ??! This is a great community!

    So I went with the M1 Mac Mini 16GB 512 GB HD. 16GB like most people recommended. This will be my daily driver so like ya'll said having 16GB will be better in the long run. My computer right now is an Asus K501UW laptop. It's about 5 or 6 years old. And it's been having old age tech problems. So I feel like this M1 Mac Mini will be a significant computer upgrade regardless of being a different OS.


    But I can't help shake this dirty feeling of cheating or leaving for the Dark Side after only ever being a Windows user. Any other "switchers" out there? And how did you cope with it, ?!


    Thanks!

  4. Usman

    Definitely not at that price, this Mac Mini is from 2014. I'd stay away from it.

  5. interloper

    This video gives a pretty good analysis of the 8Gb vs 16Gb Mac Mini in the real world. As others have said, don't buy an Intel Mac now (especially not the 2014 model as even Mac Mini fans despise it) - go for the M1 as it can natively run the very iOS apps you want to develop.

    • Paul Thurrott

      Yeah, but that's the situation now. Things change, and as developers get used to targeting more capable Apple Silicon chipsets, the M1 might get left a bit behind. Were I switching to the Mac, I'd go 16 GB regardless of the system.
  6. rob_segal

    Considering these price points, I agree with those saying get an M1 Mac Mini. Programming can be complicated. 8 GB of RAM is enough for something like Visual Studio Code front-end projects, Visual Studio .NET 5 stuff, Azure SQL, stuff like that. Haven't used XCode, so I don't how much memory that will take. Light photo editing will work on 8 GB of RAM. If you plan to do a lot of this, 16 GB of RAM could be beneficial on occasion. If you don't plan to tax your Mac with a lot of photo editing and large code projects, your money could be better spent upgrading storage. If you can responsibly afford it, 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB of storage would future-proof it better and give you room to do more with your system if you so choose.


    • jimchamplin

      In reply to rob_segal:

      Xcode is fine with 8GB unless you’re going to be building a game or some kind of huge desktop software.


      And the way the system is architected, the 8GB isn’t as much of a limitation as it seems, since it’s on die, and therefore absurdly fast.

  7. jimchamplin

    NO. The 2014 model is sad. Between the dual-core (Yes, the 2014 models only had dual-core options) CPU and the absolute garbage HDD, this isn't going to be something you enjoy using. Especially not for $819 when you can get the new model for $120 less. If you want a Mac mini, get the new M1 model.


    Do not purchase this. Purchase the $699 M1 Mac mini.

  8. txag

    I own a late 2014 Mini, and it has had some issues (delay in opening the Apps menu, network flakiness) starting with Catalina and not fixed with Big Sur


    Mine is an SSD that I put in myself because the 1T HD in that model was very slow.


    This is about the oldest Mini that could get Big Sur, so I think it will probably drop off the upgrade list soon.

  9. adam.mt

    Buy a model with an SSD, can't say this enough. If this is indeed a 2014 model then the HDD will be on it's last legs and dog slow. Seems expensive for the age.


    8GB should be fine.


    As others have said, no doubt Intel support will be dropped by Apple in a couple of years.

  10. bkkcanuck

    That is a 2014 Mac Mini - that would mean that next year might be your last year for macOS upgrades to new versions (the existing version will continue to be supported). If you are using it for development that would hinder it significantly. The pricing for Intel Macs will be unlikely to hold their prices for much longer either. It would be significantly underpowered as 2014 would be only a 2 core system.

  11. F4IL

    Your biggest concern would probably be peripherals with incompatible drivers. Since you're going in legacy free (software-wise), I don't see a reason to get the Intel variant.

  12. matsan

    Since you are going for a Mac I take it your are not a heavy user or gamer, but I may be wrong. Anyway, if you don't have a Mac history I'd say go for a M1 Mac.

    • Paul Thurrott

      In reply to matsan:

      Agree with this. Not sure if you need 16 GB of RAM (vs. 8) but I suppose from a future-proofing perspective it makes sense.

      • j5

        In reply to paul-thurrott:

        @matsan & @paul. OK that makes sense about future proofing. I thought about that but that's why I wanted to ask to see if it was that big of a deal.


        So you think 8GB RAM is fine?


        Yeah I'm not a PC gamer. I'm mostly just email, surf the web, watch YouTube etc. stuff like that.

        • Paul Thurrott

          If you're looking to just dabble in iOS programming, I guess save money and don't worry as much about chipsets or RAM. If you think you'll want to keep using it, I'd think about going M1 and with 16 GB for that future-proofing reason.
          • j5

            In reply to paul-thurrott:

            After seeing yours and everyone's reasons to go with 16 GB I'll have that as a base requirement. I'm not to worried about storage as I'm a OneDrive user. And I can use an external HD for more storage space.


            Paul do you have any external HD recommendations for the Mac Mini?

        • matsan

          In reply to j5:

          Some RAM to spare will make macOS and you happier. However, Intel-based (haven't tried a M1 yet) macOS is extremely good at managing RAM.

          Storage is another pain-point - 256 or 512 GB....

          If you budget allows for 16GB/512SSD that would be my recommendation.

          • j5

            In reply to matsan:

            I was more concerned about RAM than storage. I don't game but I do have a lot of files and photos. But I was thinking an external HD would be fine for extra storage. And I have an Office365 subscription so all my files are backed up to OneDrive.


            Do you think the 16GB RAM would make that big of a difference for web surfuring, YouTube, some programming, photos, etc. stuff like that, I've fully entered the old person using their computer phase lol.

            • matsan

              In reply to j5:

              Excluding "programming" from the list and I'd say 8GB would cut it (if you aren't doing heavy photo editing).

              "Programming" on the other hand could be a problem depending on your tools. If your programming includes Xcode - 16GB no options. Python, PHP, JavaScript etc you could probably do with 8 GB if using a light-weight editor (Sublime, VSS etc). Heavier IDE (JetBrains or some Eclipse-based IDE) - 16GB.

  13. StevenLayton

    I have no advice on the Mac Mini, but your account photo has brought back many childhood memories. I loved those films as a kid!

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