New Site Design Feedback

Brad Sams

Hey everyone,

The new site is live! If you have any feedback, please leave it here.



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    Jeffsters - 3 weeks ago

    Honestly, and I want to get this right because I can't edit, I think the new format is, shall we say, less than ideal.  I did find it funny that it looks like Apple News but unlike Apple News I'm confronted by a visual assault. The old site was simple and easy. It ran chronologically and you could quickly skim to the latest and greatest. Now I'm not sure what the $#@%! is going on when I get to the landing page. Perhaps if it had always been this way I'd be used to it, maybe it's the natural human aversion to change, but I'm thinking I won't be around much anymore. I simply don't have time to look over the mighty grid of articles looking for what's new since my last visit. Amusingly I'll now rely on Apple News to inform me of articles of interest. Like the move away from Discus I feel like this was done to serve a business purpose not a user need. That's fine but this user, and this might be a side benefit, will be coming here less often.

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    openmisere Alpha Member #295 - 3 weeks ago

    It's too busy. I generall come to the website daily and I want to know what new on a daily basis. It's not clear whats new. It's not clear what order I could/should look at things at. Less is more Brad. Less is more.

    1. Brad Sams
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      brad-sams - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to openmisere:

      Make sure to check out this view too (image below) as it makes the site look a lot closer to the previous layout. 

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      Redbreva Alpha Member #447 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to brad-sams:It certainy does help on the desktop view, but the setting does not seem to be saved between visits :-(  I have had to reselect my prefered layout every time...


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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to brad-sams:

      No, those different views makes no difference, the page is still messy and hard to navigate.

      And now tried it properly on a mobile...not just 1 ugly hamburger menu, but 2?? Seriously?

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      Jeffsters - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to brad-sams:Brad, that doesn't stick.  At least not for  me.  If I us that to toggle the view when I return from an article it reverts back to the Apple News/Flipboard format.


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      Elindalyne Alpha Member #1521 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to brad-sams:

      Brad a think a lot of confusion could be fixed if the Featured posts at the top were limited to 300px... Currently the featured post wrapper sits around 478px and due to how people read content (F Shaped reading and the like) recent posts feel way less important than they should. Here's an example of what the index might look like with a 300px hard cap on featured article images -

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      anchovylover Alpha Member #875 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to openmisere:

      I agree, it is busy and a little hectic. I'm sure they will tinker with it based on feedback. Maybe we just need to get used to it.

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    gsmith-plm Alpha Member #1599 - 3 weeks ago

    Simple is almost always better. 

    The new format is not simple. 

    Therefore...  Nuff said?

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    hrlngrv Alpha Member #1159 - 3 weeks ago

    Purely subjective, but I don't like the newest article being larger than all the preceding articles.

    NOT SUBJECTIVE: Now that there are 3 options for main site article layout, I prefer the middle one which looks most like the former layout. However, if I click to a forum link, then use my browser's Back button to return to the main site, my previous layout preferences is lost and I have the @#$%&*! default tiled layout again, so I have to select my preferred layout again. The article layout preference should be persistent.

    I do like the Forum list on the right.

    Picky: for those of us LOGGED IN as Premium members, do we really need a Join Premium link in the menu/tool bar?

    All in all, the new site really isn't RTM quality. Looks like there's going to be a prolonged beta for a while.

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    jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 3 weeks ago

    I will give my feedback only because you ask and I request that you remember regardless of what I state that I am generally a fan of the site and support the content. Also, please do not take any criticism personally as it is not intended as such and that I have faith that you will course correct the issues of note over time.

    Generally, I am not a fan of the change. That doesn't mean there aren't some good changes bundled in but overall I liked the old layout even with its problems more than this layout.

    The highlighted articles in the middle takes up too much space. I can only see one article under the recent section without scrolling. None of the layout options impact the heading section. It would be helpful to be able to customize the order I would like the sections arranged. For me a small menu in the style of the Forum menu would work perfectly for Podcasts in place of the large section that is placed below some of the articles. I recognize that might not be a widely desired layout which is why having the sections be modular and separately configurable would be great.

    On mobile we are still stuck with the double hamburger, and presently no alternative layouts in portrait mode.

    The forums, comments and other site issues I have, I don't feel are relevant to this conversation so I will not include them here but are very important to overall user experience.


    Overall, I can recognize the tremendous amount of work that has gone into this and hopefully someone with more constructive feedback beyond 'I don't like it' will help you make the changes to make this new layout more palatable. Grammar nazis please forgive spelling and grammar errors as I don't care about your peeve enough to correct them initially and have no ability to do so later.


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    smurnin - 2 weeks ago

    I prefer the chronological newest first blog format.

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      Jeffsters - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to smurnin: I think this sums it up!  People came here to read a "blog" and with a blog lens when it comes to expectations and use.  The site seems to be evolving into a general news site and with it brings a news site UI.  Brad, your users still have a "blog" lens and are looking for a blog like experience and that perhaps is where the disconnect starts?


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    Patrick3D Alpha Member #994 - 3 weeks ago

    One other suggestion, it would be nice to see the most recent podcast appear at the top-right corner above the most recent forum posts.

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    Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 3 weeks ago

    This....navigation....oh boy.

    Where to begin?

    I can't tell what's what chronologically anymore.  You have podcasts and Petri stuff smack dab in the middle of articles on the main page.  Don't try to mimic The Verge - their navigation sucks too.

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    Kri77777 - 3 weeks ago

    Way too busy. Hard to follow, lot thrown at once, and way too many sections. It seems very clear that little to no usability testing was done. 


    Some of the other views are better (note: better, not good), but I would not have noticed it if Brad hadn't called it out which means it is not good design. If these are better, they should be default view (but again, that would not fix this mess of a new site). 

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    ThomasMNS Alpha Member #518 - 3 weeks ago

    A link to the premium stories category ( on the 'Join Premium' drop down could be good. Would be nice to have a quick way to see the latest premium content and make sure I haven't missed anything. 

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    Craig. Alpha Member #318 - 3 weeks ago

    It's not very touch friendly and can't see search..?

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    JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago

    The font is way to small.. I'm way to old to read that tiny text . 

    Can we please bring back a more normal font size, so I dont need binoculars infront of my computer to be able to read?





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      anchovylover Alpha Member #875 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to JudaZuk:

      It's murder on my old eyes typing a comment, you're correct. It's way too small.

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      Jeffsters - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to JudaZuk: Your browser should have a preference setting, in mine Safari, it's under Advanced:Accessibilty, where you can set a minimim font size that's applied to ALL web sites and should hopefully make your life easier.
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    reason42 Alpha Member # - 3 weeks ago

    Like others, I find it too busy.

    Take a look at  The site has the same core model and layout.  Advert supported free content and paid for content (they call it plus rather than premium) with subscriber only in depth articles and advert free (I pay for plus too). 

    What has done well, from a design point of view, is made the layout consistent.  It's easy to find the news articles, easy to find opinion and still has the same header feature pane and so on like  Free members and plus members are able to set their layout preferences, so as a user if I logon from a different computer my preferred layout follows me and therefore is not reliant on cookies (I'm not 100% sure how it works).

    Oh and the default font is on the small side.  I'm on a 14" FHD laptop and it's a tad too small.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is I think it is too busy because there's no clear division of where content can be quickly found.  Like a lot of people, I visit a whole bunch of sites when I get a spare few mins.  I want to hit a site and dig straight to the type of content I'm looking for.  So if I want something news based, head to say mid top left.  In depth, use the right-side nav bar (see for such examples).

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    RamblingGeek Alpha Member #1038 - 3 weeks ago

    Very nice!  Will have a poke around....

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    lefffen1 Alpha Member #2003 - 3 weeks ago

    Just checked on my phone too and the layout becomes much more organized. But still way too small text and what is up with the double hamburger menu? and with one in each top corner on its own top bar? There is a big gray space under the logo and also the picture for the top article its too big on the right side. 

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    AnOldAmigaUser Alpha Member # - 3 weeks ago

    Is there a search feature? If so it is not obvious.

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    barry505 Alpha Member #122 - 3 weeks ago

    I don't see a way to search (no search icon), also clicking next page indicators don't do anything.

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      TrevorL Alpha Member #2428 - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to barry505:  The page indicators are definitely rubbish.  The section I was looking at indicated 69 pages available.  Clicking on 1, 2, 3, 4 all gave the same thing.  Clicked on 69 and got what was basically rubbish.
      I was only clicking through these pages because I couldn't find any search.  (Looking for something that I recall from 1-2 months ago.)


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      TrevorL Alpha Member #2428 - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to TrevorL: Found what I wanted to find by doing a Bing search!!!!


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    North of 49th Alpha Member #656 - 3 weeks ago

    I realize the site design is new and I need to get used to it to some degree, but it strikes me as a little disorganized.  The podcast section is sandwiched in between the stores and it doesn't flow well to break up the articles (additionally, there is no bottom boundary to the podcasts the way there is on the top).  I personally would rather see the podcasts along the right hand side like the 'Currently on Forums' section just to give some structure to where you look for things.  If you want logical breaks for the articles, I would break articles from today in one section, yesterday in one section, past week in another section, etc - but title it that way so that the reader understands.  If it helps, I'm using Edge on a 1920 x 1200 screen.

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    Aritting - 3 weeks ago

    Hi Brad, can you comment on how you make you design changes. Do you do the theme development?  Did the old site use a basic theme?  What plugins do you use? And what editor do you and Paul write your articles in? 

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    JerryH Alpha Member #248 - 3 weeks ago

    Echoing others, but you need to know our opinions. Not good. When I came to the site this morning I actually thought I mistyped the URL or something. Then I started to look at it and thought, what happened did their CSS get all jacked up? Busy and out of order. Unrelated junk (podcasts) in the middle of the content (hint: that should be in a navigation area). I'm sure you can tweak it and keep some of the new stuff without the loss of usability that you have now.

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    Bustrod Alpha Member #1157 - 3 weeks ago

    The Premium banner on the video for First Ring Daily, on the front page, is covering the imbeded controls. The controls work thru the banner but are very dificult to see. So far this only seems to affect be affecting the front page, as the Episode page does not load the banner.

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    lordbaal1 - 3 weeks ago

    On my Lumia 640, I don't know if it's in other places, but in portrait view, the right side cuts off. In landscape it's fine.

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to lordbaal1:

      it's the same for me on a Lumia 950XL

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      Adlton - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to lordbaal1:

      same on my Lumia 640

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    ThomasMNS Alpha Member #518 - 3 weeks ago

    I like it. Nice clean design, and it's especially nice to get the forums featured prominently on the sidebar. Just echoing some other comments here, I would like to see the text being a little larger - especially on the article excerpts and navigation bar, and the page layout options need to be saved between visits.  

    It would be nice to get a little more visual distinction as to where the podcasts section ends and the post list continues, especially when using the default layout or on a mobile device. Currently they sort of merge together when skimming through. Perhpaps another thin black bar like there is at the top? Similar to how the "Trending on Petri" section is clearly seperate from the chronological news with bars on the top and bottom and even slightly different background. 

    Clicking "OLDER POSTS" on the homepage is currently taking me to and giving me a page not found error. Older articles from when Disqus was used for comments incorrectly disalay 0 comments in the top right of the article and article bylines when browsing through sections. Also seems like the bottom navigation bar is not quite finished. For example, "About us" and "Meet Paul" link to the same page, the headers and "Our writers" don't link anywhere, "Thurrott Daily" and "Thurrott Basic" link to the same page etc. 

    Hope this is helpful. :) Love the site, and looking forward to further new features as alluded to in the First Ring Daily. 

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    PcGuy8088 - 3 weeks ago

    I tried posting a comment to this story and was unable to since I could only find a reply button appeared to be a button associated with a Premium Comment and did nothing when I clicked on it.

    Is that because I am not a paid member?

    What is with tabs right about the comments that show Premium Comments and Comments? Clicking on Comments one never does anything.

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      the_real_entheos Alpha Member #2392 - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to PcGuy8088:

      As a premium member, clicking on either comments tab does nothing, all I can view is premium comments. I'm personally against 'comment segregation', even if it means a few great offers to work from home for large cash.

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    madthinus - 3 weeks ago

    Hi Brad and team

    Small pet peev. When you visit the site, and you are in an article but you are not loged in and you select at that stage to log in, you are taken to you profile rather than the article you were reading. 

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    JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago

    Not a fan of the new design I must say, but when you after all decided to make the new design , couldnt you have fixed the logo?

    It has been something I have bugged me for a long time , also contacted Paul about that a long time ago... the Thurrott logo is blurry

    When you did the redesign and choose an extremly small font size, I'm forced to zoom in , and then the blurry logo gets even worse of course.


    Maybe ït's time to put up a logo in SVG format ?  Seems like a rather basic thing, and if you payed for someone to do this redesign, this is something they should haved mentioned I feel. Otherwise they are more interseted in taking your money then provide you with the best design possible.

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    hrlngrv Alpha Member #1159 - 1 week ago

    The 3-button article layout selection still isn't a persistent setting. Any idea when it would become persistent?

    Also, it'd be nice if comment sorting could also become a persistent user setting, as in comments in pretty much every other tech site which accepts comments.

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    Derelikt - 1 week ago

    Are the articles intentionally not print-format "friendly?"

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    earlster Alpha Member # - 3 weeks ago

    I have to echo what most others have said. Too busy, the middle view/layout is the best IMHO, but the setting doesn't stick. And the fonts are way to small. I liked the old layout a lot better.

    1. Brad Sams
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      brad-sams - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to earlster:

      We are aware of settings not sticking...will address soon-ish.

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    madthinus - 1 week ago

    The spellcheck in Firefox does not work on Works elsewhere.

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    ctataru - 3 weeks ago


    First off, congratulations for the premium stuff on this site (this is my 1st comment as an alpha member).

    The main issue I see is with the website navigation. It should have more emphasis, be easier to remark and with larger fonts. (This is about the desktop version) A dark background with white fonts would help.

    Also, the fonts are way too small. My sight is fine, I love tidy things, but this is a bit too much.

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    Larry - 3 weeks ago

    Contact Us
    If you need help with your account or if you are interested in closing your account, please email the following: [email protected] Someone from our team will ((by)) in touch with you in the next 24 hours.  Typo

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    J_Numan - 3 days ago

    I thought we were going to see some changes on the site design.
    Really liked the original thurrott site.
    But this one is just messy on a pc desktop. Looks like a website we used to have many years ago or one of those horrid amateur csc ones.
    On a phone and tablet it scrolls nicely down quickly and works fairly well.
    Sorry, but its not working for me.
    Not really sure what Im looking at most of the time, the news just seems cobbled further down and lost with the podcast stuff, that should be on the right. Where are the last weeks articles, not easy to understand them for the front page.
    ON the PC at the tiop are two rows of banners with stories, some going way back, 19th october, would be good to have a publish date on the description. 

    What is the big pic of this Brad guy in sunglasses all about, I think he has been on twit a few times. I though this was Paul Thurrott website.

    Whats is the Alpha thing all about, you see on peoples name?

    Oh by the way, spell check does not work when posting comments here or in the forum.


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    madthinus - 5 days ago

    Why does some have their Alpha numbers displayed and others not?

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    dc696969 Alpha Member #381 - 3 weeks ago

    There seem to be three options to control the format of the displayed page, which work as expected.

    However, I should not have to repeat the choice the next time I visit the site!

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    Sailordude9980 Alpha Member #1243 - 1 week ago

    Can the fourm be used in tapatalk?

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    lightbody - 3 weeks ago

    One of my favourite things, is the comments... but how do I get notified if someone replies to one of my comments?  This was a good thing about Disqus, and the reason I'm a huge fan of it.

    1. Brad Sams
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      brad-sams - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to lightbody:

      This is actually is functioning now but we turned it off as it was sending user IP addresses with the notification. 

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      PcGuy8088 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to lightbody:

      I agree. I had posted a comment about the new design last week but darn if I could find it here. I wonder if it even made it to the forums at all. There doesn't even seem to be a search or list of one's own posts on the forums here.

      With the new design perhaps non paying members accounts are crippled and have less capability on the forums? Shrugs

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    DKRowe Alpha Member #1135 - 1 week ago

    Needs a forums-only search function. Wanted to search forums posts before posting, but no dice. Search this site only bring up articles.

    Search this site box also has some interesting display behavior (IE11), depending on window width. The dynamic resizing goes from not visible to fully displayed to only Search is visible as the window is resized.

    Let's throw in Insert/edit image, since I tried to use it for this post. Looks like only online picture links work (my guess). No local browse or file type preferences indicated.


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      Tim - 1 week ago
      In reply to DKRowe:

      Good idea.  Adding it to the list. 

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    normcf - 3 weeks ago

    I created a new account.  When I go to the "My Account" area, only my name is populated even though I have filled in a number of the other fields, uploaded a photo and saved the changes.  This makes it difficult to know what to edit and whether empty fields will overwrite current data.  Also, there may be no way to blank out a field if leaving it blank indicates no change.  ChromeOS plus Chrome Browser or Firefox on Ubuntu.  I'll try to test windows combinations tomorrow unless someone else posts their results before then. 

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    richard Alpha Member #862 - 3 weeks ago



    New site is great - few bugs though when viewing articles on an iPhone in portrait mode - text goes off the screen and you miss  out on the words - even when pinch zooming out.  Works fine in landscape mode though!



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    hrlngrv Alpha Member #1159 - 3 weeks ago

    Clicking on Sort by DATE works in Forums, but clicking once sorts commnents oldest-to-newest. I'll bet you 99% of people wanting to sort by date want newest-to-oldest. One click should be newest-to-oldest, two clicks oldest-to-newest.

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    Angela_WWW Alpha Member #1150 - 3 weeks ago

    I have an iPhone 7 and in the past few days, some of the premium articles and even these forums have a few characters chopped off the right hand edge.  I can't even slide the page over to see the rest of the word.

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    Stoffel Alpha Member #679 - 2 weeks ago

    Overall i like the new layout.

    Specially once i use the second layout option, t pretty much resembles the old site then :)

    I just wish that it would remember my preferred layout option when i return to the main page

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    eeisner - 2 weeks ago

    Would be great if images in articles would open in a photo viewer, rather than opening the images in a new page, displaying the .jpg. This would make it much easier to view the photos without having to actually change URL's/go back a page to resume reading the post.

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    Jeffsters - 2 weeks ago

    For some reason the comments box, as I type here, does not activate Safari's spell check as you go even though "Check Spelling As You Type" is active. Not sure where the issue lies, in the page or the browser (Version 10.0.1 or WebKit 12603., but I'll file a bug report on the Apple side while you check your end.  All other sites I visit seem to have the correct behavior.  Please excuse any typos!  :-)

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    andrewtechhelp Alpha Member #711 - 3 weeks ago

    Just a bug report: I'm using Edge (on 1607) and on the homepage, the icons that you use to change the layout style all appear as the same icons.

    Oh and just personal feedback. For the menu bar of the site with the categories on it, I prefered it when it had a background colour to it. The top of the page is very white now, the menu bar can be missed.

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    Finley Alpha Member #1029 - 3 weeks ago

    Love that the podcast play from the home page. The first daily ones at least haven't tried the others yet.

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    lefffen1 Alpha Member #2003 - 3 weeks ago

    Way too busy and whats up with the tiny tiny font? This site is all about the text we come here to read but now it has been taken back by humongous pictures and my eyes have to hunt around for the headlines and then focus hard to be able to read the text.. It's just all over the place now, sorry, it looks like a mess.

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    offTheRecord - 3 weeks ago

    The headlines in the "Petri" stories column on the righthand side of this Forum page extend beyond the right boundary of the page. I have a screen capture that shows what I mean, but no way to upload it to this comment.


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      Tim - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to offTheReservation:

      Can you emamil the screenshot to [email protected]  Also, for simple image hosting you can use a service like

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      offTheRecord - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Tim:

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      Tim - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to offTheReservation:

      Thanks OTR (We're going to run with that abbreviation).  What browser and machine are you running. Screen resolution would be good too.


      Also you can use the highlighted button in the screenshot below to embed that upload on imgur.  All you have to do is ammend that url with something ".png".

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      offTheRecord - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Tim:

      Win10 Pro, Chrome Version 53.0.2785.116 m, 1920x1080

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      Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to offTheReservation:

      Your image link is broken.

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      offTheRecord - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Waethorn:

      Yeah, had to run off and do something else. Ran out of time to fiddle with it. I'll just email it to them like he asked when I get some free time.

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      PcGuy8088 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to offTheRecord:

      I am also seeing that behavoir in Firefox 49.0.1 on Windows7 here along with several blocks of HMTL code along the right hand side of multiple pages on the site

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      lwetzel Alpha Member #113 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Tim:

      Maybe it is just me and I am getting old but, I don't see as the sollution to getting an image into a comment.  I really don't want to learn a new tool that I probably won't use again once you all fix your site.  Just don't see sending people to another site to enable them to input an image (especially when it involves fixing the first site.)

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    Mehedi Alpha Member #912 - 3 weeks ago

    - The text on the homepage is too close to each other

    - When I change the layout of the Recent News block, the settings should be saved. Right now, I have to change it everytime I reload the site which is a pita. 

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      Tim - 3 weeks ago
      Mehedi Posted

      - When I change the layout of the Recent News block, the settings should be saved. Right now, I have to change it everytime I reload the site which is a pita. 

      Very good point.  This one just got put into the pipeline. 

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    darr - 3 weeks ago

    The two bars offsetting the "Currently on Forums" are green. Nothing else on the site is green. The sudden introduction of a color that seems outside of the general theme of the site bothers me.

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    darr - 3 weeks ago

    Also, the side bar does not line up with the thumbnails of "Recent Stories."

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    Tim - 3 weeks ago
    In reply to hrlngrv:

    Not picky at all... but i'm wondering if I'm seeing what you're seeing

    Are you talking about the top banner?


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      hrlngrv Alpha Member #1159 - 3 weeks ago

      In reply to Tim:

      The highlighted portion at the top shows the user name when logged in. Presumably the site knows whether a logged in user is Premium member or not. If they are a Premium member, then is the 10th link from the right in the section immediately below T Thurrott tm The Home for . . ., that is, the one displaying Join Premium, necessary?

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    JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago

    Another feedback, the forum dropdown menu (for the 'breadcrumbs') has no background so when it goes over a text on the page, the menu's text and the text on the page goes in to each other making it hard to read.

    Well the middle option (in this case 'Community feedback')  dropdown menu have a background ..the last 'Breadcrumb'  (in this case 'Dev') has not ..


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    RonV42 Alpha Member #166 - 3 weeks ago

    found a responseive design issue where content is overlapping in IE11.  Since I cannot upload the image here please use the image that I posted in Twitter:

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    Tom Wilson - 3 weeks ago

    Is this Thurrott or Neowin?

    Load them side by side and you'll see what I mean.

    /Not very original

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    chrisrut Alpha Member #193 - 3 weeks ago

    Wow - just refreshed my browser screen and the world changed...

    It'll take a while to digest this and proivde feedback.


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    J_Numan - 3 weeks ago

    The font is too small and I have very good eyesight.
    Not usre what stories are new anymore and the top bar of stories is way to big, so just scrolling down each time.
    Really like the previous site, it worked well everywhere. The new design for me is old fashioned looking and messy on tablets and phones and with the font just impossible to read and its now hard to navigate easily.

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    BeckoningEagle Alpha Member #613 - 3 weeks ago

    I agree with other members that it is too busy and hard to navigate.  I checked out the view you mentioned and that is the view I like, only two things with it:

    1. Is it possible for the humongous screenshot that you have for the first article to become as small as the other articles when selecting this view.  I know it is a way of highlighting a specific article, but I may not be interested in it at all and it pretty much takes over the first screen and I have to scroll down to see other articles.

    2. The selected view is not saved through sessions, not even the same session. If I select that view and then click on "refresh" or press F5, it returns to the default view.  I would like to have that view saved as my default until I change it back.  Preferrably in my profile and not a cookie, so that it carries over to other PC's or the phones or "InPrivate" browsing sessions.

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    MacNala - 3 weeks ago

    Fine but the spacing of the sidebar on the right in the Office heading pages overlaps the central text

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    Tina - 3 weeks ago

    Hey Everyone,

    We hear you! We see the fonts and spacing issues and realize that is a readbility issue. The ultimate design is clean, readable and very functional just as you have seen on other parts of the site as we have been rolling out this summer.

    The homepage over the next couple of days will take it's final form. Thank you for jumping on board and giving valuable feedback to the team.

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Tina:

      "The ultimate design is clean, readable and very functional" so like the pages where last week, before this mess of a design?

      and please fix the horrible comment system, sure it fits the current design, as in hardly usable at all, but I hope that is not what you are going for

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      mingo - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Tina:

      "its final form"

      No apostrophe. If you want us to pay, please write in decent English. 

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      TrevorL Alpha Member #2428 - 2 weeks ago
      In reply to mingo:  Agreed.  I know most of the "younger" folk couldn't care less about grammar, but for older folk like me my blood pressure goes up a couple of notches whenever I see bad grammar.


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      hrlngrv Alpha Member #1159 - 3 weeks ago

      In reply to mingo:

      Disclaimer: I didn't down-vote.

      Typos happen. If particular grammar mistakes become a pattern, then it's a problem. Otherwise, get used to humans being humans.

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      PaulCans Alpha Member #1192 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to mingo:

      "Its final form" is not the contraction of "it" and "is" and therefore doesn't require an apostrophe. It's is a special case of apostrophes.

      Please check the grammar before you comment. 

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    PHerbie Alpha Member #1009 - 3 weeks ago

    Nice. i like it. it will take some getting used to.

    Some of the graphics dont align. I am using IE11. i'd send you a screen print dump if i could work out how.


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    OhSoMuchFun Alpha Member #121 - 3 weeks ago

    I like the new design. Nice clean simple look. I like the smaller cleaner headers, but that could be because I have new glasses and they are easy to read now. I wonder how this will display on my Lumia 950XL. Cudo's to Paul and Brad and a huge "Well done!!!" to the IT guys and Web dev's behind the scene. I relaly like the rolling blog post "currently on forums"  thing-a-ma-jig on the right hand side.

    Great work all.

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    Ryster - 3 weeks ago

    My first instinct was "oooh, this is a little busy and the fonts are really small"...  I like the overall feel of the site though. Just make fonts a bit bigger, and try not to cram so much in. I'm not averse to a bit of scrolling.

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      Ryster - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to Ryster:

      Oh also, remember when Office 2013 came out in beta and the default theme was white and everybody complained? It feels a bit like that here now. I'd like a bit more contrast between the background and the grey elements, which at present are too light. 

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    cybrtitan Alpha Member #921 - 3 weeks ago

    My biggest complaint is the the podcatsts and trending on petri stuck in the middle of the article ... it actualy took me a minute (even after changing the view style back) to realise that the podcasts section ended and the articles started back up .. there needs to be a older articles headline at the very least between those sections.

    i love the currently on forums section!
    can we please have the the Thurrott on petri article just integrated into the news feed with like an on petri logo where a premium logo would go? .. PLEASE!!

    then the trending on petri can go where the thurrott on petri is!

    i think thats everything i have for now


    thanks guys.. i love how much love you are giving to this site though :) 

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    offTheRecord - 3 weeks ago

    Tough crowd, which I'm sure you all expected. It is quite a sudden change. For those complaining about the chronological list of articles on the home page, if you play around with the list button for the Recent Stories it puts it back in a chronological list (with the section for podcasts shoved in the middle of it). It won't stay that way, though, if you leave the front page. Until they make the change stick, you'll have to change it manually each time.

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    Waethorn Alpha Member #2235 - 3 weeks ago

    This says it all

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    lordbaal1 - 3 weeks ago

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    Usually things get better when you change it, but this site gotten worst.

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      JudaZuk Alpha Member #2098 - 3 weeks ago
      In reply to lordbaal1:

      Totally agree.  I do admire them for trying to redesign the home page on their own with their busy schedule, but I do think it would be better to hire some professional webdesigners to do the redesign in this case. Sure it costs  some money, but the result will be much better if they know what their doing.    (and Paul and Brad, if you actually have hired a professional webdesigner to do this .. I'm sorry, it realyl does not look like it. )

      Right now the page is just kind of a mess ... I prefered the old design, because I was a clean design, easy to navigate and had a font size that was readable  and it worked great on a mobile as well. 

      Now it is tiny text all over the place for articles, but the fontsize is not even consistent because text in the forum is  much bigger. (it's like it was the Xbox store design team that was involved or something :) )   Except for when you try and write a comment in the basic homemade comment system, then the text is tiny ...but when you submit it becomas bigger.   So it is hard to see what you have written, until you post, and then you can see your misttakes, and then you cant edit..

      The logo is still blurry , no change there ..  menu system is not consitent .  and try and cram all kinds of articles in a small space that just makes it hard to find anything in general..   It's like The Verge, but with a tiny tiny font   or a bad copy of Windows central ..


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    Patrick3D Alpha Member #994 - 3 weeks ago


    -Small text, I like sites that are easy to scan and fit more information on screen at one time

    -Clear layout, it is easy to know where to look for stories, podcasts, Petri content, etc...


    -Keep needing to login everytime I visit the site despite checking the "Remember Me" box

    -The "Premium" blue banner covers the Vimeo control buttons on podcast videos