I believe the age of the Chromebook being enough for most people is a thing and once you give android apps it becomes a better option than Windows for someone who only writes, Facebook and light photo-editing with LR CC.
shameermulji
<blockquote><a href="#250940"><em>In reply to Sprtfan:</em></a></blockquote><p>Steve Jobs' car / truck analogy basically boils down to using the right tool for the job.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254584"><em>In reply to shameermulji:</em></a></blockquote><p>I agree with "the right tool for the job" but IMO, that interpretation actually undermines Jobs' sales pitch. The eventual drop in iPad sales suggests that the iPad wasn't the "right tool" to the degree that Jobs suggested. It's a decent consumption device but didn't usher in a "post-PC" era.</p>
shameermulji
<blockquote><a href="#254635"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>"It's a decent consumption device but didn't usher in a "post-PC" era."</p><p><br></p><p>In hindsight, that is true. It's pretty clear that it's the modern smartphone that ushered in the Post-PC era. But big picture, I think what defines the Post-PC era is the gravitation by users towards mobile operating systems that are simple, as Paul Thurrott puts it.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254638"><em>In reply to shameermulji:</em></a></blockquote><p>Smartphones are even less qualified as the "right tool" for doing the kind of tasks that PCs traditionally are used for then tablets. IMO people mistakenly link smartphone sales with PC sale declines. Many people who own smartphones never owned a PC, and they're not doing PC things on them. </p><p><br></p><p>Smartphone OS's are simpler both because their purpose is more limited and because their form-factor demands it. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#255816"><em>In reply to curtisspendlove:</em></a></blockquote><p>I'd expect tired arms, tired voices and lots and lots of noise in your proposed future. I'm not sure how "huge transparent screens" are related to lightweight iPads. But I'm not questioning iPads in particular, but the entire "post-PC" concept as a contemporary reality. Computing will evolve in the future, perhaps in ways nobody currently imagines but trade-offs between usability, power, weight, size etc can't be eliminated through technology particularly since the human body is a key factor in the trade-off.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#257660"><em>In reply to curtisspendlove:</em></a></blockquote><p>It's great if you can talk that long, but my voice usually goes out before an hour is up.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#258884"><em>In reply to curtisspendlove:</em></a></blockquote><p>I have a theory that people who discovered how to type their own way are less likely to be injured. Standard typing position is focused on efficiency while ergonomics were not factored in. </p><p><br></p><p>I've also noticed that ergonomic keyboards such as the ones MS used to make, aggravate mouse problems if you're right handed since the mouse is moved farther away to accommodate the wider keyboard. I also thought those keyboards would be more ergonomic if they eliminated the numeric keypad and thus reduced the width. </p>
skane2600
<p>If your needs can be met with Chromebook, that's fine. That's not true for everyone. I don't think Android apps add much value. The vast majority of them are designed for smartphones and once you're using a device with a real keyboard and a reasonable-sized screen web apps are just as effective if not better.</p><p><br></p><p>I don't really see how Chromebooks are a better option than Windows except perhaps for those who are always getting viruses because they are easily fooled.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#251044"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>You may be right but the market doesn't support that argument.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#251437"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>So Chromebooks are outselling Windows PCs? </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254425"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>Let's recap:</p><p><br></p><p>I said that Chromebooks wouldn't satisfy everyone's needs and you responded "it is true for most". I said the market doesn't support your argument and you said it did. Then I mentioned relative sales. How does merely "making a dent" prove that the market indicates that it's "true for most"? </p><p><br></p><p>You can't read too much into relative growth rates when comparing products with vastly different existing sale levels. </p>
shameermulji
<blockquote><a href="#254424"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>One quarter does not a trend make. With respect to the consumer & business market, if it happens over a number of consecutive quarters, I'll believe it.</p>
Bats
<p>Chromebooks are more than enough for (i say…..) 90% of the people in this world. You can create documents, you can edit video, you can shop, email, talk, banking, Googlecast to a Chromecast. YOU CAN EVEN DO YOUR TAXES. Set yourself up with a Google Cloud Print printer and your golden. </p><p>With Google leading the PWA front since Nov 2015 and Microsoft following (perhaps Apple too), computing will basically be universal. </p><p>Chromebooks requires no training at all. LOL…ya know, they still offer training courses on operating Windows online an in schools. </p>
shameermulji
<blockquote><a href="#251043"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>Problem with MS is not the technology, it's the branding. I'm all for them wanting to make a "mobile" OS that's simpler like iOS / ChromeOS but they need to quit branding it Windows. Leave the Windows branding for those that want the power & flexibility that Windows provides and rebrand their mobile OS something else so as not create confusion.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254579"><em>In reply to shameermulji:</em></a></blockquote><p>I think it's too late for that strategy to be successful in mobile, but I agree that it would have been a better one. They had an opportunity for a truly fresh start as opposed to the kinda-sorta-new RT/Metro/Modern/UWP that now, as a practical matter, only exists on the desktop and has to compete with the more powerful legacy APIs.</p>
shameermulji
<blockquote><a href="#250962"><em>In reply to Bats:</em></a></blockquote><p>"Chromebooks are more than enough for (i say…..) 90% of the people in this world."</p><p><br></p><p>So are iPads.</p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254560"><em>In reply to Minke:</em></a></blockquote><p>It's not as if Office is the alpha and the omega of Windows computing. I suspect that most 87-year-olds would do fine with notepad or equivalent anyway. </p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254680"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>Google Docs are equivalent to notepad? If you say so.</p>
Bats
<blockquote><a href="#254793"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>Google Docs can be as powerful as Office 365, through the use of Addons/Extensions. A lot of people don't know that, because the app doesn't make it obvious. </p><p><br></p><p>The only reason to ever use MS Word over Google Docs is if your company/employer has must use templates that adhere to a specific format. That's pretty much it.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254898"><em>In reply to Minke:</em></a></blockquote><p>Obviously your dad isn't like "most 87-year-olds" so good for him. </p>
shameermulji
<p>Android apps on Chromebook is a "hack". What Google needs to do is promote Chromebook-optimized apps.</p>
skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#254678"><em>In reply to paul-thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>Well, in both cases their origin is mobile-inspired.</p>
funnyjokes
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Bats
<blockquote><a href="#264006"><em>In reply to Stuart_Pearson:</em></a></blockquote><p>Good for you!</p><p><br></p><p>I believe that this is the future of computing. Maybe not exactly the way of ChromeOS, but something like it, where reliance falls more heavily toward cloud based apps. It's faster, it's universal, and it's native. </p><p><br></p><p>Again…good for you!</p>