Google Seeking Windows 10 Certification for Pixelbook
Thought this was interesting.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixelbook-microsoft-windows-10/
Looks like Google is seeking Windows certification for the Pixelbook. As others have speculated it is unlikely Google would ship with Windows 10 on their hardware but they could leave open a dual booting option similar to boot camp.
I have to think this is something being looked at for enterprise. Basically a “We think Chromebook will work for you BUT if you get it and need more or have that one department or project that wants it, toss Windows on it.”
Conversation 47 comments
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skane2600
<p>I expect they would sell more Pixelbooks with Windows installed, but it doesn't seem to fit their current strategy.</p>
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RR
<p>Maybe Google sees the handwriting on the Wall. And it's spelled "Andromeda"</p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284454"><em>In reply to RR:</em></a></blockquote><p>I don't see any connection between Pixelbooks and the vaporish Andromeda.</p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284540"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>Haha. You guys remind me of the "Ghandi" quote. Or the stages of grief, take your pick. :-)</p><p>So it's speculative of course, but the idea is if Andromeda were to dual run Windroid (Microsoft already deploys all the tech to do this today). Then Google's logical initial response could be do the same on desktop (the product ad writes itself if Microsoft thinks there is value in Windroid mobiles). </p><p>I have thought for sometime that Microsoft needs to do a Windroid if they want the Andromeda to succeed in a way that is material, and for sure, if one were going to launch a Windroid machine without saying so ahead of time, you would do all the things Microsoft has done over the last 2 years or so. </p><p>Maybe Google thinks that's what they are doing. Remember, Google is the fastest follower of all the tech giants. They did it in SmartPhone, in SmartSpeakers, Jamboard etc, so if they get a whiff something is cooking, they respond. You see Microsoft stock doing pretty well and getting quite pricey. Why? There are some people who know something that Microsoft is doing that they expect to be big. Maybe its just the cloud, but we'll see. </p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284578"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>I don't think that, and I didn't say that. A Windroid Andromeda is a threat to Android not ChromeOS. Google can respond to that threat by doing various things including making a threat of their own to Windows, using Winchrome.</p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284644"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>So you are saying Google's Winchrome idea is a dead end</p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284742"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>You believe a Winchrome by Google will happen, but you don't believe it's a threat to Windows? So what is Google's point in making a Winchrome. Just throw it out there and hope nobody buys it. I am not getting the logic in these statements. </p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284756"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>Microsoft's choice of a Linux variant for IoT may be as much about marketing as it is technical. Linux is just another option, Windows 10 for IoT is still in development. In any case, any OS is overkill for some IoT applications.</p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284759"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>Given that no version of Windows 10 existed at the time Microsoft Band was designed, I think we can definitively state that the size of Windows 10 IoT had nothing to do with its cancellation. </p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284761"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>What is that supposed to prove? Are you claiming that Band 2 was based on Windows 10 IoT? Otherwise I don't see any relevance. </p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284764"><em>In reply to Michael_Goff:</em></a></blockquote><p>No, that's not what you said. You said the fact that you believed Windows 10 IoT was too big for Band was why it was canceled. It doesn't make sense to claim that MS would drop a product that was sucessful just because a new OS that obviously wasn't necessary to create it wouldn't fit. </p><p><br></p><p>The more plausible explanation is just that the Band product wasn't successful when challenged by other companies like Apple. </p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284573"><em>In reply to RR:</em></a></blockquote><p>It's hard to keep track of all the fantasies associated with Microsoft's unannounced "products" like the Surface Phone and Andromeda but this is the first time I've heard that the latter could run Android apps. </p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284648"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>In a rather odd symmetry, it's the first I heard of a Chromebook running Windows …</p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284725"><em>In reply to RR:</em></a></blockquote><p>Well, we are speculating on the possibility of a Chromebook running Windows based on Google seeking Windows certification for the Pixelbook. You are speculating that Android apps will run on Andromeda based on nothing. That's the difference.</p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284757"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yes, I have less to go on that the Chromebook case. But here is what I have:</p><p>We now know for sure that Microsoft is at advanced stage of working on this alleged device, including from permaskeptics like Paul Thurrott, that info is all in 1 direction at this point.</p><p>We know that such an is-it-a-phone-is-it-not device running any version of Windows alone would probably appeal to a very tiny fraction of the user base. Sort of a pocketable Surface Studio. At best, a lot of media splash, oh, ha, that a few people are willing to buy at high prices, but little market effect. That was OK for brand building purposes, but I think Microsoft is past that point on their comeback journey, and it would be dumb now to stay there. Also, it could just bomb, because it is panned as an unnecessary item, which I would agree with, I mean it just makes no sense to ask people to keep 2 items in their pocket, bring this one out when, bring that one out if.</p><p>OTOH, I think most people would agree that if such a device was a well implemented Windroid; a phone, and also whatever newly available benefits Microsoft implements into it, you suddenly have an addressable market of like 1-3% of mobile userbase to like 35_50% for the device category. So, I have never been a product developer, but I think "no brainer" is a word that might be thrown around in such a scenario. Yet some people are saying the Andromeda is not a phone. It is hard for me to believe, and I think that is just smokescreen. </p><p>BTW, to add a bit to more, Huwaei is shipping a Windroid Phone in China this very minute. Not sure if it's a first, but someone at Microsoft approved that licensing deal, that can't be lost on the industry. Add that to all the Androidy things Mircosoft has been doing for 2 years. <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">So, yes, it is speculative but that's not the same as "nothing."</span></p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284762"><em>In reply to RR:</em></a></blockquote><p>Can you provide a model number of Hawaei's "Windroid" phone? All I can find is their initial statement of intention, followed quickly be their decision to scrap the idea. </p><p><br></p><p>It's also worth noting that Surface Phone was considered "inevitable" among tech writers and yet, years later – no such device. </p><p><br></p><p>The problem with the idea is that if it runs full Windows 10, Android apps become superfluous and if it runs Windows 10 S, Windows becomes superfluous and it just becomes one of many competitors in the commodity Android market.</p>
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RR
<blockquote><a href="#284765"><em>In reply to skane2600:</em></a></blockquote><p>Looks like my Huawei info was outdated. I had not seen the cancellation announcement "due to pressure from Microsoft and Google" per the news report I read just now. I guess that's the kibosh on my speculation, you win ? (for now)</p>
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skane2600
<blockquote><a href="#284881"><em>In reply to RR:</em></a></blockquote><p>OK. The article I read quoted a Huawei official stating the reason was "nobody made any money in Windows Phone."</p>
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