If a tree falls in the woods…

A semi-humorous thought that occurred to me while mowing the lawn.

If 20H1 has been *released* but nobody gets it has it been released?

Conversation 23 comments

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 1:26 am

    <p>Purely in forensic terms, if you question vaporware, hasn't it succeeded?</p>

  • madthinus

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 3:25 am

    <p>They sure has been slow at pushing it.</p>

  • miamimauler

    03 June, 2020 - 3:30 am

    <p>What makes no sense at all is that it seems the older W10 machines are more prepared for the update than the newer W10 machines. </p><p>Apparently SP7, SPX and SB3 aren't able to handle it.</p><p><br></p><p>Work that out. Does anyone have a theory on that?</p>

    • madthinus

      Premium Member
      03 June, 2020 - 6:09 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544532">In reply to miamimauler:</a></em></blockquote><p>My guess is the newer ones have a driver blockage. They are probably waiting on a revised driver for those devices to work correctly. </p>

    • lvthunder

      Premium Member
      03 June, 2020 - 11:32 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544532">In reply to miamimauler:</a></em></blockquote><p>The issues must not be too bad. I did the upgrade on my Surface Book 3 and Studio 2 and don't seem to have any issues. I ran the update from the USB stick I made.</p>

    • navarac

      04 June, 2020 - 3:25 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544532">In reply to miamimauler:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yet another reason NOT to buy Surface devices. If they cannot support them, sod them. BTW there has been no mention of this problem in the 17 month of builds for 20H1. Time to put Linux on the old SB3 – runs just fine.</p>

      • scj123

        Premium Member
        04 June, 2020 - 8:38 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544718">In reply to navarac:</a></em></blockquote><p>Seems odd to purchase an SB3 and within a couple of weeks put Linux on it just because you didnt get an update on the day of release</p>

      • lvthunder

        Premium Member
        05 June, 2020 - 2:09 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544718">In reply to navarac:</a></em></blockquote><p>You don't know what you're talking about. Microsoft supports them just fine. In fact a couple weeks ago before the Surface Book 3 came out they pushed a firmware update to the original Surface Book which is what 4.5 years old.</p>

  • wright_is

    Premium Member
    03 June, 2020 - 4:35 am

    <p>Got it on all of my machines…</p>

    • miamimauler

      03 June, 2020 - 5:01 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544537">In reply to wright_is:</a></em></blockquote><p>Interesting, what devices are you running?</p>

      • wright_is

        Premium Member
        03 June, 2020 - 5:24 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544540">In reply to miamimauler:</a></em></blockquote><p>AMD Ryzen 1700 home-build, Spectre x360 2016 and a ThinkPad T480 (but that was pushed out, because I am in the "experimental" WSUS group at work).</p>

    • dave.erwin

      Premium Member
      03 June, 2020 - 6:14 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#544537">In reply to wright_is:</a></em></blockquote><p>…and I won a bet with myself that that would be the first comment. :)</p>

      • ghostrider

        03 June, 2020 - 7:03 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#544543">In reply to dave.erwin:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yep, 100%. Most will stay well clear for a few weeks (if not months) and wait for the 3rd or 4th re-issue of the update. I never understand 1st day installers…</p><p>Still, if you're lucky enough to own a Surface you won't be getting it quite yet due to compatibility issues! /s</p>

        • dave.erwin

          Premium Member
          03 June, 2020 - 11:20 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#544544">In reply to ghostrider:</a></em></blockquote><p><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Everyone's situation is different. I support 30 or so users. The earlier I can deal with it myself the more I know about possible issues and changes that I need to communicate to them when they are upgraded. So, reasons…</span></p>

          • Josh

            Premium Member
            04 June, 2020 - 3:43 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#544589">In reply to dave.erwin:</a></em></blockquote><p>If you need it ASAP, why not just download it?</p>

        • earlster

          Premium Member
          05 June, 2020 - 12:52 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#544544">In reply to ghostrider:</a></em></blockquote><p>I got it on my SP4 as part of the insider release preview ring. I'm not aware of any surface specific issues and haven't noticed any, either.</p>

          • miamimauler

            05 June, 2020 - 9:45 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#544923">In reply to earlster:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's on most of the tech sites that many SB3, SPX and SP7 users are blocked from updating which is simply unacceptable. </p><p><br></p><p>Don't fall in to the habit of assuming that just because you haven't had issues it must mean no one is having issues.</p>

  • erichk

    Premium Member
    05 June, 2020 - 6:49 pm

    <p>Haven't gotten it yet.</p><p><br></p><p>If I don't get me some 20H1 I'm not going to be very pleasant to be around.</p><p><br></p><p>Well, not really. I'm having too much fun with my new Core i7 RTX 2060 Super gaming rig to be too concerned!</p>

  • naddy69

    16 June, 2020 - 11:57 pm

    <p>If a tree falls in the woods, and no humans are around to hear it, yes of COURSE it still makes sound. </p><p><br></p><p>Physical reality exists regardless of humans perceiving it. We have not physically perceived any civilizations on other planets. Does this mean they don't exist? </p><p><br></p><p>Of course not.</p><p><br></p><p>To think that human perception is a requirement for physical reality to exist is the height of narcissism. </p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      17 June, 2020 - 8:11 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#546898">In reply to naddy69:</a></em></blockquote><p>Sigh.</p>

      • miamimauler

        17 June, 2020 - 9:50 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#546925">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yes, it is an odd response given the post states it is tongue in cheek.</p>

    • erichk

      Premium Member
      17 June, 2020 - 10:37 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#546898">In reply to naddy69:</a></em></blockquote><p>If a man says something in the woods and there are no women around to hear it, is he still wrong?</p>

  • erichk

    Premium Member
    17 June, 2020 - 10:37 am

    <p>Just got it a couple days ago. Haven't tested printing yet though, so I don't know if that works.</p>

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