Perspective

Compared to this (https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service), MSFT’s efforts to monetize Windows and Office don’t seem so horrible. Or at least out of the ordinary among corporations which can’t resist any opportunity for gouging customers.

Conversation 6 comments

  • j5

    Premium Member
    12 December, 2021 - 8:59 am

    <p>Subscription services….<em>"this is the way!"</em> lol</p>

  • christianwilson

    Premium Member
    12 December, 2021 - 6:45 pm

    <p>If this was a feature where you started it with your phone and a cellular connection in the car started the engine, I could understand. There is no need for this to be a subscription other than greed. Not everything needs a subscription. </p>

  • rob_segal

    Premium Member
    12 December, 2021 - 10:17 pm

    <p>The Drive updated their article. This pertains to Toyota’s Remote Connect functions and services. If you’re further than a set distance away from your car and want to start it using the fob, you’ll have to pay the subscription. Ex. If you want to start your car while you sit comfortably in your living room. </p>

  • navarac

    13 December, 2021 - 3:44 am

    <p>In the <strong>UK</strong>, To be specific, Section 98 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986/1078 requires<em>&nbsp;a driver to stop the engine of a vehicle when it is stationary so far as is necessary to prevent&nbsp;</em><strong><em>noise</em></strong><em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;</em><strong><em>exhaust emissions</em></strong><em>,&nbsp;</em><strong><em>unless the vehicle is stationary because of traffic</em></strong><em>. Section 107 of the same regulations prohibits a person from leaving a vehicle unattended unless the engine is stopped.</em></p><p><br></p><p>If drivers are breach for reasons outside those stated above, is is considered an offence under section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 which can be&nbsp;<strong>punished by a fine of £2,500</strong>&nbsp;if the vehicle is a goods vehicle or adapted to carry more than 8 passengers, or&nbsp;<strong>£1,000 otherwise</strong>&nbsp;(see Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 section 33 and Part I of Schedule 2 to that act).</p><p><span style="color: rgb(209, 200, 185); –darkreader-inline-color:#e5ddd1;" data-darkreader-inline-color="">- See more at: https://www.rivervaleleasing.co.uk/blog/posts/engine-idling-fine-parked-car-uk#sthash.dyQRJe6e.dpuf</span></p><p><br></p><p>Also, where I live, you’d be asking for the local yobs to jump in and nick it! </p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      14 December, 2021 - 6:44 pm

      <p>Autostart and heated seats are for the northern parts of the US. I’m unaffected where I live in California.</p><p><br></p><p>Any parts of the UK which are consistently under -20C in Winter? There’s a reason for this in the US.</p><p><br></p><p>Semi-sarcastically, here in the good ol’ US where most auto owners also own hunting rifles (statistically, this ISN’T a jest), teens trying to steal cars in suburban areas may have poor life expectancy.</p>

  • justme

    Premium Member
    13 December, 2021 - 4:23 am

    <p>Toyota isnt the only one doing this sort of thing, but this is just stupid.</p>

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