Is Microsoft releasing W10 1709 to Phones ?

I have an off contract Lumia 650, which still does not recognise any W10 1709 Fall ctreators update (unlike all my PCs) Does anyone know if Microsoft intend to update any of thre remaining Windows 10 phones with a 1709 Release.

Or are remaining users expected to get it via subscribing to the Insiders Progarm ?

Conversation 19 comments

  • maethorechannen

    Premium Member
    23 October, 2017 - 1:48 pm

    <p>My 950 hasn't updated, though every major update I've had has trailed the PC version. Then again, I still have some PC (well tablets) that haven't updated either.</p>

    • Simard57

      23 October, 2017 - 2:32 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#209761"><em>In reply to maethorechannen:</em></a></blockquote><p>what tablets are you using?</p><p>I would like to consider a Windows tablet</p>

      • maethorechannen

        Premium Member
        24 October, 2017 - 7:38 am

        <blockquote><a href="#209771"><em>In reply to Simard57:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I have a few. Of the ones I'm currently using, the Surface 3 and Dell Venue 8 Pro (the "really pro" model with 2GB of RAM and a digitiser pen) upgraded. I also have a lesser Dell Venue 8 Pro (1 GB RAM and no digitiser, so I think the Pro suffix wasn't justified) and a Linx Vision 8 (more an Xbox One accessory than anything else – it slots into a game controller and is really useful with the Xboxes' streaming feature) haven't upgraded yet.</p><p><br></p><p>I also have some other tablets lying around, from the time MS were trying to push cheap Windows 8.1 (with Bing) tablets, that never really worked well, and getting Windows 10 running on them at all was challenging. Not that I'm too bothered – they're all Black Friday specials where the tablets cost less than the Office 365 credit that they came with.</p>

        • Simard57

          24 October, 2017 - 11:37 am

          <blockquote><a href="#209874"><em>In reply to maethorechannen:</em></a></blockquote><p>thanks – quite a collection.</p><p>I picked up one of those earlier NuVision. While I still use it, it wasn't money well spent – they seem to have not implemented power settings well and it drains quickly even if not being used.</p><p><br></p><p>Sure hoping that WoA produces some inexpensive alternatives that give good battery life. Hoping companies like Chuwi are working on them now as are Lenovo, Dell &amp; HP!</p>

  • evox81

    Premium Member
    23 October, 2017 - 3:46 pm

    <p>From what I understand, there isn't a real "1709 Fall Creators Update" for Mobile. Development for mobile split off from PC several months ago in to, what is basically, a "support" branch. The most recent build available for mobile is 15254.1. I believe it is still an Insider build.</p>

    • wunderbar

      Premium Member
      23 October, 2017 - 4:20 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#209783"><em>In reply to evox81:</em></a><em> </em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>This is the correct answer. There is no Fall Creators Update for Windows 10 Mobile.</p>

      • Jules Wombat

        24 October, 2017 - 4:07 am

        <blockquote><a href="#209788"><em>In reply to wunderbar:</em></a></blockquote><p>OK I guess I had believed in the "One Windows" hype, and that Microsoft would be releasing a W10 Mobile version of the Fall Creators update,to normal users. </p><p>But I guess any W10 mobile Updates are now Only generated for "WM Fans" via Insider builds now. </p>

        • wunderbar

          Premium Member
          24 October, 2017 - 9:48 am

          <blockquote><a href="#209870"><em>In reply to Jules_Wombat:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>This isn't really news though. After 1703 the build numbers for Mobile split from desktop, and it's only been bug fixes since. And yes, there will be some kind of update, but it's not at all like 1709 on PC.</p>

    • pmeinl

      Premium Member
      24 October, 2017 - 7:05 am

      <blockquote><a href="#209783"><em>In reply to evox81:</em></a></blockquote><blockquote><em>The last feature update for W10M, previously called "feature2" branch just started rolling out. It has the same 1709 version number as desktop W10 Fall Creators Update..</em></blockquote><blockquote><em>For details (including a nice diagram showing the differences and commonalities) of W10 and W10M see</em></blockquote><blockquote><a href="http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/news/item/22465_Fall_Creators_update_officiall.php&quot; target="_blank">'Fall Creators update' officially coming to Windows 10 Mobile</a></blockquote><p><br></p>

      • wunderbar

        Premium Member
        24 October, 2017 - 9:49 am

        <blockquote><a href="#209872"><em>In reply to pmeinl:</em></a></blockquote><p>It is only the "Fall Creators Update" in name though. The build numbers are wildly different, and this update on mobile is basically just a bugfix update. This is nothing like 179 on PC.</p>

  • navarac

    06 November, 2017 - 4:36 pm

    <p>I wouldn't be asking the question really. The OS is dead. Go to Android or iOS (choose one!)</p>

    • lwetzel

      Premium Member
      06 November, 2017 - 5:50 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#213632"><em>In reply to navarac:</em></a></blockquote><p>Why? Because you don't have a Windows phone? Or you have made up your mind that no one in the world should have a windows phone and therefore the decision has been made for the rest of us?</p><p><br></p><p>Geeeeeessshhhhhh!</p>

    • Jules Wombat

      07 November, 2017 - 7:50 am

      <blockquote><a href="#213632"><em>In reply to navarac:</em></a></blockquote><p>I do have an Android Phone [Nokia 6], for software Testing , Apps experience and awareness. But I use my Lumia 650 as my personal preferred phone because it is still a superior beautiful user interface &lt;in my opinion&gt;. </p><p>Until Android and iOS 'catch up' with a similarly compelling Live Tiles user centric interface , I will stick with my Lumia 650, Thanks. </p><p>My understanding is that the 'FCU update' (when/if it comes) will be support only rather than features update. </p>

  • snow.steve22

    Premium Member
    07 November, 2017 - 11:20 am

    <p>From what I've been able to gather, it's a less-than-full-featured Fall Creators' Update.</p><p><br></p><p>(There is a list of phones that's supposed to get Fall Creators' Update directly rather than through the Insider's route. My current phone – 640 – isn't on the list but the 650 is…)</p><p><br></p><p>Example: Edge does not have the Read Aloud feature on WM. I think that is only available in a later iteration of Edge's engine which hasn't been brought to WM so far. It will be interesting to see (once Windows 10 on ARM is released) if they can back-port those changes into WM. That would be a good, cheap way to keep WM up-to-date.</p><p><br></p><p>Here's hoping…</p>

  • Jules Wombat

    29 November, 2017 - 12:13 pm

    <p>Still no CU Fall Update to 'normal users'. </p><p>I guess Microsoft presume that only Windows Insiders that are using Windows Mobile phones today. So what and why are they updating, if these builds are never going to be be released to general users, and why did they announce the range of phones that would get the CU/Fall Update, if they had no intention to push out the support update ? </p><p>&lt;&lt;And Please no more tedious 'Time to move On' comments, soe of still prefer WM10 &gt;&gt;</p>

    • Wolf

      Premium Member
      29 November, 2017 - 12:49 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#222596"><em>In reply to Jules_Wombat:</em></a></blockquote><p>After this month's patch Tuesday, both my wife's 550, and my 950XL were updated to Version 1709, OS Build 10.0.15254.12. The 550 was never on the Insider program, the 950XL was on slow ring and got 15254.1, but opted out of the Insider program before getting 15254.12. So, non-insiders are getting the update, it seems.</p><p><br></p>

      • Jules Wombat

        29 November, 2017 - 2:04 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#222622"><em>In reply to Wolf:</em></a></blockquote><p>OK actually that is the same build I now have on my Lumia 650. I cannot remember any system reinstall prompt or upgrade sequence. I guess it was pretty quiet update. Nothing much change, as just support update.</p>

        • Wolf

          Premium Member
          29 November, 2017 - 3:24 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#222644"><em>In reply to Jules_Wombat:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yes, very light on the changes, but it's as solid as ever it was, for whatever that's worth ;)</p><p><br></p><p>Of course, we won't see anything more than support updates from now on. It is what it is …</p>

  • skane2600

    29 November, 2017 - 4:27 pm

    <p>It's "One Windows" so of course all updates to Windows 10 will be released for Windows Phones. /s</p>

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