Edge Numbers


Paul I remember when you wrote this post back in 2017 when Microsoft was raving about these usage numbers with Edge and you questioned them.

We now know Edge has been a big flop that is why they are moving to a chromium based browser.

Do you think these numbers were ever right or where they right and they just lost more market share.

Conversation 8 comments

  • Paul Thurrott

    Premium Member
    24 April, 2019 - 9:25 am

    <p>This number was suspicious from the second I heard it, and as you point out, it doesn't mesh with any usage figures for the browser. But we now know that Myerson's Windows org inflated a lot of figures, including Windows 10 adoption (in that case via adding in VM installs). So I assume this falls into that category. My guess is that everyone who opened a PDF with Edge was considered a user.</p>

    • Tony Barrett

      25 April, 2019 - 7:34 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422915">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Or everyone who opened Edge just to download Chrome was also a 'user' – I can imagine tens of millions did that!</p>

      • robinwilson16

        27 April, 2019 - 8:00 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#423176">In reply to ghostrider:</a></em></blockquote><p>Also every time Windows installs a new build it always opens Edge the first time you log in with a what's new page (even though it is not the default browser). As I am on the insider builds it must log me as opening it every couple of weeks.</p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      29 April, 2019 - 3:35 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422915">In reply to paul-thurrott:</a></em></blockquote><p>Why is including VMs bad? I use several VMs, each has a full Windows 10 license, running on our ESXi infrastructure, for accessing management tools on different sites or for testing new versions, testing application compatibility etc. </p><p>Whether I set up a physical machine or a VM for management tools, testing or remote access shouldn't make any difference.</p><p>Each is a real Windows 10 installation and each runs 24/7. What makes the VM running 24/7 less "real" than a Windows 10 installation running on bare metal on a home machine that runs for a few hours a week?</p><p>If VMs aren't worth counting, then you would probably have to reduce the Linux and Windows Server installation counts by around 70 – 80%! I have several dozen Windows servers here and a bunch of Linux servers, all VMs. So, no Windows server and no Linux installs, according to your stats.</p><p>I'm not trying to be argumentative, just wanting to understand why VMs shouldn't be included; when they are probably more active and used more often than many physical PCs – my home laptop gets used a few times a month, most of the VMs I have get used for several hours a day.</p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    24 April, 2019 - 4:25 pm

    <p>If one assumes there are 1.5 billion microcomputers in use, then 22% of those microcomputers would need to be running Windows 10. That may have been reasonable sometime in 2017. If MSFT were measuring distinct machines which ran Edge at least once in a given month, that might also be true. Lots of file types default to Edge as the associated application, and FWIW when Flash updates, it opens the What's New page in Edge no matter which browser is set as the default. IOW, what this may really mean is that it's next to impossible to avoid launching Edge.</p>

  • ColdFultonBSD

    Premium Member
    26 April, 2019 - 3:52 pm

    <p>Paul:</p><p><br></p><p>When will we see Credge on the Xbox 1?</p><p>Didn't Xbox inflate those numbers?</p>

    • Otto Gunter

      26 April, 2019 - 5:48 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#423613"><em>In reply to ColdFultonBSD:</em></a><em> Credge? That's cute, kinda like M$ before we all grew up. But shouldn't it be </em>Chredge<em>? Either way, it makes me cringe (chringe?); Edgium sounds much better.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      27 April, 2019 - 12:47 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#423613">In reply to ColdFultonBSD:</a></em></blockquote><p>I'm sure it's coming. </p><p><br></p><p>Xbox users of Edge are likely very small, but even if every single Xbox One user was also actively using Edge, it would have accounted for well under 10 percent of that 330 million figure. </p>

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