First Ring Daily 1068: Who Can Run to Eleven

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On this episode of First Ring Daily, Brad is worried, Windows 11 is an enigma of compatibility, and hopefully, we get answers, soon.

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  • Dale Griffin

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 11:01 am

    <p>I got a notice from windows insiders that my computer did not meet the requirements for W11. That’s from Microsoft right? O K today as per your post here, I ran microsoft’s own tool for checking the requirements and it came back that my computer was all set to run W11????</p><p>Now what????</p>

  • doon

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 11:32 am

    <p>I feel sorry for you guys. That’s the tweet. </p>

  • navarac

    28 June, 2021 - 11:42 am

    <p>I enjoyed that! I think most of what is the Windows 11 debacle got covered nicely :-)</p>

  • wbtmid

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 12:01 pm

    <p>Brad your YouTube post over the weekend was OUTSTANDING and definitely ON POINT, especially the tag line: "The only BS here, is the Compatibility List.!"</p><p>Paul if Microsoft’s Compatibility list is due to a feud with Intel it is even more ridiculous.</p><p><br></p><p>I understand that TPM and secure boot are security features worth having., assuming it actually does IMPROVE SECURITY! Secure Boot requires the system partition be a GPT partition. (There is a utility already in Windows that can fix this problem by converting a MBR system partition to GPT. I had to do this on one of my computers and the problem was resolved.) </p><p><br></p><p> I understand buying new hardware to support new features that are not supported by current hardware. It is offensive to force consumers to buy hardware to spite Intel , to juice the hardware market, or just to get Windows 11. Some of the changes in Windows 11 look good, some not so good, and, we won’t know for sure until we try it!</p><p><br></p><p>Loved your Mexico City photos. Been there twice ,one of my favorite places too. Just don’t eat the street food!</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Hope you are right that MS backs off this to something reasonable. If you and Brad didn’t have a Window 11 computer, I’d miss your new Windows 11 Field Guide along with the information and insights you both provide in your articles, and podcasts! </span> (Smile!)</p>

    • thretosix

      28 June, 2021 - 12:13 pm

      <p>By 2025 when support for W10 is gone there will be workarounds already for W11 security measures.</p>

  • anoldamigauser

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 12:03 pm

    <p>Two comments…</p><p>First, if they wanted to get people excited about Windows, well then, mission accomplished.</p><p>Second, I received an email from the Insiders Program stating that the computer I have used on the insider program since it started, is not compatible with Windows 11, so they have moved it from the Dev channel to the Release Candidate channel. So it is not entirely true that they will let any computer get the updates. To be fair, this computer is ancient, and fails on several metrics so I do not feel cheated. I will probably remove it from the Insiders Program at this point and retire it.</p>

  • lewk

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 12:16 pm

    <p>That was a good episode ?</p>

  • bob25

    28 June, 2021 - 12:21 pm

    <p>Yes, there was a 9th generation Intel chip. I have a Z390 chipset motherboard running an i7-9700k CPU (Coffee Lake <em>Refresh</em>, I believe). Or, maybe a "refresh" shouldn’t count as a generation? </p>

  • craigsn

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 12:50 pm

    <p>Paul, you mentioned that if you do a clean install of Windows 10, you get the GPT disk partition by default. But that isn’t true. I installed a new version of Windows 10 about a year ago (on this computer), but the WhyNotWin11 says that I don’t have TPM (which I don’t), my Secure Boot is not detected or disabled (could be the case I have to check my BIOS), my Disk Partition Type says GPT not detected, and finally the Boot Method is Legacy. Again, this was a clean and default install so the Boot Method and Disk Partition should be in compliance. I understand the TPM and the Secure Boot. So there you go!</p>

    • javial

      Premium Member
      29 June, 2021 - 1:56 pm

      <p>You need to do a clean install with UEFI and Secure Boot activated in BIOS in order to get the GPT partition by default. With UEFI or Secure Boot disabled, your boot method is always legacy and get an MBR partition with a clean install. You can also need to activate TPM (PTT) in BIOS if your motherboard has TPM.</p>

  • brothernod

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 12:52 pm

    <p>Still chuckling at Paul’s sign off "There’s nothing else going on, this is our lives now."</p>

  • fourbadcats

    Premium Member
    28 June, 2021 - 2:15 pm

    <p>8th gen has the fix for Spectre and Meltdown. This is all about the security IMO. MS does not want to be on the hook for more attacks coming in via side-channel attacks even if it’s a h/w problem.</p>

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