Windows Weekly 726: Quake Mode

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• fourbadcats

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  28 May, 2021 - 1:37 pm

  <p>As a Windows desktop dev. this WAS the worst build ever.</p>

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• rmac

  29 May, 2021 - 7:27 am

  <p>I asked Scott Hunter what might be happening in the common control space to which he kindly directed me to the Fluent UI control set which I much appreciated, but the biggest drawback remains that the web components are non-vectorisable. </p><p><br></p><p>I’d be pretty sure Flutter has vectorisable controls and that is a game changer. Because MS don’t seem to have done anything to advance in the space of a common cross-platform and vectorisable controls stack to avail developers to build ‘the modern UI’, the show did not hit any high note with me save for the presentation ‘The future of modern application development with .NET’ which definitely was interesting. Devs are going to drift to other offerings.</p>

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• Paul Thurrott

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  29 May, 2021 - 2:13 pm

  Yeah.

  There are so many new things coming down the pike, I wish Microsoft had given up an all-up "here’s the future of Windows app development" talk that went through all the options.

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• factoryoptimizr

  09 June, 2021 - 1:22 pm

  <p>Yes, definitely still some big, gaping holes in the "plan"…holes that Microsoft just isn’t being forthcoming with their direction.</p>

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• rmac

  29 May, 2021 - 7:13 am

  <p>thinking again about the Windows hype… if Nadella really was ‘hosting’ Windows, that suggests a home or office desk server for local devices like TVs/phones, yet it has to connect to ‘the store’ too?</p><p><br></p><p>conversely MS are just stuck not knowing where to take Windows and are just fishing for ideas.</p>

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• hrlngrv

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  29 May, 2021 - 8:01 pm

  <p>Another alternative is that if there really &amp; truly are well over 1 billion Windows 10 users, no matter where MSFT may want to take Windows, they can’t do so unless a majority of Windows <strong><em>users</em></strong> would welcome such changes.</p><p><br></p><p>IOW, I figure MSFT has some ideas where they want to take Windows, but MSFT has no clue how to convince most Windows users, both enterprises and home/leisure users, that those users would welcome the changes. More simply put, Windows is so large its user base decides what Windows is, MSFT doesn’t.</p><p><br></p><p>Tangent: given the volume of 3rd party FOSS projects with Windows, macOS and Linux versions which have been around for years before MSFT trotted out all this cross-platform wonderfulness, who needs all this newly trotted out MSFT cross-platform wonderfulness? Thinking just of what I use on a workdaily basis, RStudio and GNU R, Okular, Vim, Firefox, Beyond Compare (not FOSS), I can’t see any of them needing or even benefiting much from anything MSFT announced at Build. Sure, there could always be new stuff, but what was the last major application which appeared on any OS desktops first then spread to web apps and phones?</p><p><br></p><p>If PWAs are the future, local OS doesn’t matter. OTOH, anyone who believes full Windows desktop MS Office is going to become a collection of PWAs (or even get ported IN FULL to Macs) in this decade or the next is smoking some seriously potent stuff. Point: you can gauge MSFT’s dedication to cross-platform by the number of features in Windows desktop Office which don’t exist in Mac desktop Office.</p>

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