Microsoft Delivers Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16193
- Paul Thurrott
- May 11, 2017
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With Build 2017 underway in Seattle, Microsoft has issued a new Windows 10 Insider Preview build that delivers a few of the Fall Creators Update features it first showed off earlier today.
“Windows Insiders who have been running builds from our Development Branch over the last few weeks have already been helping test the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update,” Microsoft’s Dona Sarkar writes. “And we are releasing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16193 for PC to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring today.”
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Here’s what’s new.
Story Remix. Described as an “evolution of the Photos app,” Story Remix is apparently new functionality in that app rather than a new standalone app. People who have downloaded the build tell me that Story Remix is not available in Photos yet, so it probably needs an app update.
Power Throttling in Task Manager. In this build, the “Background Moderated” column in Task Manager has been renamed to “Power Throttling.”
Volume control for individual UWP apps. You can finally control the volume of individual UWP apps in the Sound Mixer, just like real apps.
Beyond this, build 16193 provides various improvements and fixes, and introduces some new known issues. Please check out the Microsoft blog post for more information.
Conversation 18 comments
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timedrifter
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<p>You spelled Thurrottling wrong.</p>
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Dan1986ist
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<p>So Photos apps is becoming a UWP version of Movie Maker or something along those lines? </p>
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SherlockHolmes
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<p>Well the good thing is you can still uninstall all UWP bullshit in Windows 10. As Paul pointed out many times, there are toy apps at this time. And as long as this isnt changing, I dont waste my time on it. And for those screaming again what I am doling on Windows 10: Just exept an other opinion then the one you have for a change. </p>
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warren
Log in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116024"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>The Weather app is no toy. It's got quite a number of features packed into it. But hey, if you reeealllly need to deny yourself the flexibility of using a wider range of apps because of some moralistic reason, have at it. You're the only one that suffers.</p>
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SherlockHolmes
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116034"><em>In reply to warren:</em></a></blockquote><p>OK, lets take the Mail app for an example. The Mail App didnt got better over the past two years. I still cant backup messages or import more then one contact at a time.</p><p>It also needs for me to do more clicks then in the Outlook 2016 alternative for certain tasks.</p><p>Until an UWP App is able to do the same things then its win32 counterpart, I dont see any scenario switching over to UWP.</p>
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Fusciacastle
Log in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116106"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>I am not sure what use case you have, or what hardware you run. I am on a plane often and a SP4 is my daily driver. The UWP mail app is indispensable for getting a quick email out or a quick scan through incoming. Touch friendly and a great supplement to the "real" Outlook that I open up once I need the full functionality. This supposition that the lightweight apps are "toys" asserted by Paul in general and you specific to the mail app, are missing the point that in Windows there is CHOICE now. at no extra cost. MS is competing against Chrome OS and lightweight Android/IOS apps. Sometimes good enough, is well, good enough.</p>
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SherlockHolmes
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116107"><em>In reply to Fusciacastle:</em></a></blockquote><p>I agree. Where I have a problem with is when Windows guys tell me my opinion is wrong because I prefer win32 apps at this point. </p><p>Some UWP fans dont accept that there are Windows users out there, like me, who prefer the grown win32 programmes. </p>
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warren
Log in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116106"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>Wait, what? Your argument is that UWP sucks because the included mail app in Windows isn't as good as the concurrently-shipping version of Outlook?</p><p>Dude, where've you been the last 20 years? This has ALWAYS been the case. Outlook 97 is tons better than Outlook Express 4.0 as included with Windows 98. Outlook 2000 had junk mail support, Outlook Express in Windows 2000 did not. And so it goes, all through the history of these products.</p><p>The UWP API is blameless here. It isn't the reason Windows 10 Mail isn't as good as Outlook. Anything you like or dislike is based on decisions and priorities of the Mail team, not the UWP API.</p>
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SherlockHolmes
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116214"><em>In reply to warren:</em></a></blockquote><p>And here again is the arrogance of the UWP fans. The issue here is that MSFT wants us to switch completely to the UWP system. But: In the last two years MSFT hasnt given us the tools to do that because they are crapy. When I want my customer base to switch to a new systemn, then I need to make those apps state of the art, not crap. </p>
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ChuckOp
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116224"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>"And here again is the arrogance of the UWP fans. The issue here is that MSFT wants us to switch completely to the UWP system. But: In the last two years MSFT hasnt given us the tools to do that because they are crapy. When I want my customer base to switch to a new systemn, then I need to make those apps state of the art, not crap."</p><p><br></p><p>To be clear, Microsoft wants <em>developers </em>to make UWP apps. They aren't telling <em>users</em> to use UWP apps over Win32 apps. They know full well that users will use whatever gets the job done.</p><p><br></p><p>The Mail app is far from crappy. It's not Outlook 2016, but it's way better than Outlook Express was.</p><p><br></p><p>There is no way Microsoft makes a UWP version of Outlook with all it's functionality. Why put in the effort to have two codebases?</p><p><br></p><p>It's clear that Microsoft wants Win32-based apps to have the benefits of Windows Store apps, and that is why you're seeing iTunes and Office being available as Windows Store apps, just not UWP apps, because that would frankly be a lot of work.</p><p><br></p><p>Users get the benefit of easy installation, easy updating, and Microsoft gets a cut of each purchase</p>
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bbold
Log in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116106"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>I'm assuming MS wants you to upgrade to full Outlook for those premium/expanded features. Did they ever say that was going to be coming for the Mail app?</p>
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SherlockHolmes
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116318"><em>In reply to bbold:</em></a></blockquote><p>Dont you get my point? Why would anyone bother with using UWP Apps when they are using Win32 Apps which they can do so much more. The point here is that MSFT needs to better and speed up the developement of UWP. From what I have seen the last two years, UWP is far away from becoming the standard by Pro users. And even when MSFT brings Office to the Store: Why should anyone who has installed the win32 Office apps on his computer uninstall them und reinstall the office versions of it? </p>
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Ezzy Black
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<blockquote><a href="#116415"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I agree to a point, but, these are not premium apps. They are out-of-the-box apps that come with the OS. Sure, I can now read .epub files in Edge, but I really don't expect it to ever have the features of Calibre. Nor do I expect mail to work as well as Outlook, or Notepad as good as Word.</p><p><br></p><p>Free functionality is like Linux, it's only really attractive feature is its price.</p>
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jimchamplin
Premium MemberLog in to Reply<p>So tempted to install!! Soooo tempted! But I just got 15063 going on my old beast – freshly equipped with an SSD – and it's running great.</p>
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Ugur
Log in to Reply<p>For one of my windows 10 pro running desktops i got myself a 960 Pro now, because with my previous regular (slower) ssd i was getting such horribly inconsistent and extremely decaying copy and even delete speeds for large folders (several gigs, many thousand files) before on windows 10, where such operations which took seconds or minutes on my macbook pro (2015) would take hours on my windows 10 machines.</p><p>Look at the specs of the 960 pro:</p><p>https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P512BW/dp/B01LYRCIPG/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1494570412&sr=1-1&keywords=960%2Bpro&th=1</p><p>That is supposed to have </p><p>"Sequential Read Speeds up to 3500MB/s and Sequential Write Speeds up to 2100MB/s"</p><p><br></p><p>In writing/reading speed apps i also get close to that.</p><p><br></p><p>Now thanks to the 960 pro at least when i copy or delete large folders of around 10 gigs with many thousand files, it "only" takes a few minutes instead of the hours it took on my previous ssd (which was not shabby by itself, just shabby under windows 10), but it is still insanely slow and inconsistent compared to what this hardware is actually capable of delivering.</p><p><br></p><p>All the fancy UI and other improvements MS showed for the fall creators update looks great, but yeah, they finally have to get such basics working well and reliably.</p><p><br></p><p>I mean i start a copy operation of such a large folder for example and then i can see that (nice looking) graph showing the processing speed for the operation and it jumps up and down wildly all the way between a few single digit MB/s all the way to several hundred MB (never even 1 GB/s for some reason) and it's always like starting out very slow, then going like many hundred MB/s for like 1/3 of the operation and then slowing down to very low processing speed again the last third.</p><p>So overall, in windows file explorer operations the fastest "consumer" ssd still in average, for large folders still only achieves like 1/100th-1/10th of what it can actually achieve.</p><p>Why?</p><p>I don't understand why this happens on windows 10, it makes zero sense.</p><p>(And yeah, i also checked it's not something like the controller of the ssd running full/too busy or the ssd getting too hot, i even added a cooler on the ssd).</p><p>So for copy operations it's the extreme inconsistency of speed of operation during a longer process with many files.</p><p><br></p><p>For a delete it makes even less sense though, i mean it makes zero sense why a delete operation (even if it's many gig) would/should ever take more than a few sec on a modern OS.</p><p><br></p><p>I tried all i could to make file explorer/ file system/file operations faster on windows 10, still didn't get to the bottom of it.</p><p>Dunno if it's windows indexing or windows defender or whatever which makes it so inconsistent and slow.</p><p>I feel like they maybe only tested the file system actions with single files or many very small files and called it a day and hence maybe don't realise the thousands of threads people post about this issue where when doing file system operations of large folders with many gigs of separate files it is so extremely inconsistent in speed/s and dropping to such unacceptable lows in between.</p><p><br></p><p>So yeah, they have to sort such things out.</p><p><br></p><p>Then there are also many other basic usability aspects that need to get sorted out, for example:</p><p><br></p><p>-support for long path/folder names working across the OS, enabled by default.</p><p>(I did all i could read up from google to enable this in the registry and elsewhere and still get it in between that when i delete or move something from one volume to another, it moans about some name being too long to complete the operation, come on)</p><p><br></p><p>-Folder support in the task bar. Like why can't i drag multiple icons together to make a folder there?</p><p><br></p><p>-Also: why can i still not drag icons into the task bar to pin them and out of the taskbar to unpin them?</p><p><br></p><p>-yes, as power user one can launch apps in many ways, but the task bar is actually the best way that is usable in both mouse and touch input way (and also VR/AR gaze input way), so the better they can make that, the more benefit for all users.</p><p>They should have at least all functionality the mac dock has for the task bar.</p><p><br></p><p>-Single click to open apps when clicking app icons. </p><p>There should be no more need for double click to launch apps. Make the default single click and add a setting to toggle it back to double click for those who still want that.</p><p>This is actually one of the top reasons why many find desktop os harder to use than touch OS. </p><p>Just look at someone trying to use windows who is not used it. The double click needed to launch apps is one of the 5 top reasons why the OS feels harder to use for such people.</p><p>I see that again and again with my Mom and small nephew (both people who can use touch OS fine but still struggle with windows controls)</p><p><br></p><p>-Still no consistency in onscreen keyboard triggering</p><p>For example: I have a convertible like pc connected to a dock connected to the living room tv. I only use it with a wireless mouse (or touch when i'm close to it), so it does not even have a keyboard connected.</p><p>When i click a textfield/input field, i expect windows to be clever enough to detect there is no keyboard connected and hence when i click an input field in any app it should by itself bring up the onscreen keyboard each time.</p><p>No, it does not, i have to bring it up manually each time. Why?</p><p><br></p><p>-finally have consistent reliable driver handling</p><p>Why when it is clear hardware (especially graphics cards, but also often sound hardware and also networking/wlan stuff) has way better manufacturer drivers, windows installs bad own drivers which almost always mess things up?</p><p><br></p><p>Look, besides the constant advertising spam i'm warming up to windows 10, it is slowly getting there and well, windows still is the pc platform with most best and cutting edge hardware for/on it.</p><p>But they really have to sort this stuff out in 2017.</p><p><br></p><p>Such and many other small usability issues are really the main things i want to see addressed in windows 10, basically they should use the thing all day like a normal and a power user for a month and every single thing that causes hassle in normal usage should be tackled to work without causing hassle (but not by cutting away functionality, instead by making it work as one would expect).</p><p><br></p><p>Then Windows can be the dream most capable OS while not being the most hassle involving one (too).</p>
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bbold
Log in to Reply<p>There was also some kind of Windows 10 Mobile update, as well. (10.1.15213.0) For the first time, I got a message on my Idol4S last night saying "We need to update your phone…" There was a bunch of text underneath detailing why this was important or what it contained. Without reading it, I clicked Restart and Update and it did just that. Not sure what changed, but phone seems a tad bit slower. lol. I'm on the Fast Ring for Mobile.</p>
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androido7
Log in to Reply<p>I just installed the latest build on my pc, but it's missing the latest photos app and the new transparency effects. what gives?</p>