Microsoft to Brand “Redstone 2” as Windows 10 Creators Update

Posted on October 26, 2016 by Paul Thurrott in Windows 10 with 39 Comments

Microsoft to Brand "Redstone 2" as Windows 10 Creators Update

In a strange and somewhat unexpected development, Microsoft revealed today that the next major update for Windows 10 will be branded as the Creators Update. And yes, it will focus on creative tasks, plus 3D and VR/mixed reality scenarios.

As Leo Laporte said during our live coverage on TWiT this morning, it was an interesting “left turn” for the company. Previous Windows releases have been very broad, with new features for mainstream users and power users alike. But this one seems to be very focused on what can only be called a niche market.

That said, there will of course be new features in the Creators Update that apply to all users. And here’s what we know so far:

3D. Starting with Windows—but coming to Office and presumably other products too—Microsoft is integrating platform-3D capabilities, and creating an end-to-end 3D workflow. So where the original release of Windows 10 included a 3D output app, for 3D printing, the Creators Update will close the loop and provide apps like Paint 3D that will let you create/build 3D content.

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Windows Holographic and VR. It is somewhat interesting to me that Windows Holographic wasn’t a bigger story at today’s event, but Microsoft did announce that VR is also coming to Windows 10, and it will do so at much lower price points than ever before. The five biggest PC makers—Lenovo, HP, Dell, Acer, and ASUS—will all sell VR headsets for Windows PCs and at new, low price points starting at just $300. “These accessories will be the first and only with inside-out, six-degrees of freedom,” Microsoft says. “Unlike every other virtual reality headset in the market today, there will be zero need for a separate room and complicated setup.”

4K gaming and game broadcasting. Gaming on Windows 10 is up 500 percent year-over-year, Microsoft says, and it’s only going to get better with eSports tournament support, and new game broadcasting capabilities.

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Windows MyPeople. In an idea taken directly from the original release of Windows phone, Microsoft will let you integrate your most-often-accessed contacts directly into the taskbar using a new feature called Windows MyPeople. “You can pin your favorite contacts to the Windows taskbar and easily drag and drop any document, photo or video right on top of the contact for easy sharing,” Microsoft explains. “You can receive unique notifications, Shoulder Taps, and easily view and open emails, IMs, shared documents and more, all in one place. The Windows MyPeople experience is also integrated across universal Windows apps for easy sharing.” Smart. Overdue, but smart.

There’s more, of course, but it’s going to be a busy day with lots to do, so I’ll highlight these and other new Creators Update features in more depth in the near future.

 

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    madthinus Alpha Member #94 - 1 month ago

    Most critical thing to fix in Windows 10, Paint...said no one, ever!

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to madthinus:

      To be fair, this isn't about fixing Paint. This is basically a completely new app which will replace Paint, and I can see why they've done it.

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to madthinus:

      It was right up there next to Notepad. With that said we may need to lock Mary Jo in a bunker at the next Windows event as Notepad is the most logical target.

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    WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago

    One thing which I noticed in the video was a new Groove music creator app. That looks to be very interesting.

    I can also see the MyPeople stuff making its way to Windows 10 Mobile.

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      ErichK Alpha Member #2471 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      Yeah, I'm curious about the Music Maker app as well.  Although I use a bunch of other more full-featured DAWs, like Sonar, Pro Tools, etc., I'm always curious to see how much functionality they can pack into entry-level music production apps such as this and GarageBand and still make it easy to use.  I used to use GarageBand when I had a Mac mini, but I sold my mini a while ago.  I always wondered when something like this was going to come to Windows.

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      I would hope MyPeople is broader than what you are asking for, they should go all-in and provide it on every platform so that MyPeople is an experience I use everywhere and not just on my desktop (not a Windows Mobile guy). I would assume Windows 10 Mobile would be a given but you never know with the decisions they have been making.

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      I agree. Android won't be a problem, but iOS might be too closed. We'll see.

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    wright_is Alpha Member #1319 - 1 month ago

    Niche market? That is what was said when the Mac and Windows 1.0 came out (and 2.0). On the PC, Windows was just a graphical shell for launching existing DOS programs full screen (they could be windowed with 3.0). There was a calculator and a clock, but that was about it (and in 1.0, you couldn't even overlap windows).

    People laughed and said it would never catch on... At the moment VR is clunky, not very friendly and expensive, people can't see the practical uses, yet.

    Back in the early 90s a colleague and I came up with an idea for a virtual development environment, where teams didn't even need to be in the same building, but could "appear" in virtual meeting rooms and intereact with each other and look at code blocks in 3D and 3D debugging (literally pulling bits of code out to study them, changing colours to show how often that piece of code is used etc.). That was long before the Internet and virtual reality were "things".

    We might find the idea of a virtual reality interface, paired with clunky headsets as "quaint" today, just as we thought WIMP environments were quaint and described their developers, back in the mid 80s. Times change and maybe in a couple of generations, the VR environment will make total sense and we will look back on WIMP environments in the same was we look back as MS-DOS and CP/M today...

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    mortarm - 1 month ago

    >...creating an end-to-end 3D workflow.

    So they say "flat" is the new thing in UIs, yet now 3D becomes part of the platform. Oookay.

     

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    Care Alpha Member #464 - 1 month ago

    What does "inside-out, six-degrees of freedom" mean?

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    navarac Alpha Member #375 - 1 month ago

    I see MyPeople as a problem in Enterprise.  Too easy to mistakenly drop a confidential document onto the wrong recipient.  When it's gone, it's delivered. Total nightmare.

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    Awhispersecho Alpha Member #1649 - 1 month ago

    So no one wants to point out that this was supposed to be the update that focused on Mobile and mobile features. That's one hell of a change of direction and if that doesn't tell you all you need to know, nothing will.

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    Narg Alpha Member #420 - 1 month ago

    Nothing I'm too excited about.  3D was so 2014...

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Narg:

      Right, because our world stopped being 3D after 2014 and we now live on a flat earth...

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      Narg Alpha Member #420 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      What?  You didn't get the memo?

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    jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago

    I am not a creator, while I am a gamer I will never watch or share videos of gaming, and I wasn't a particular fan of Windows Phone's People Hub. Is there anything in this update from which I or enterprised minded consumers would benefit from?

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      Yes. They showed Powerpoint as an example, where you can bring in 3D objects (either created by you via a 3D scan, or imported) into your presentation and manipulate them in 3D, and create morphing 3D transitions between slides. They only just scratched the surface in the presentation.

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      JerryH Alpha Member #248 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      Yes, I saw that. I was both impressed (from a technical standpoint) and not impressed (from a user standpoint). I'd frankly never use that. "I need my PowerPoint files to be bigger and have embedded fully rotatable 3D objects", said nobody, ever. I can even imagine info at work from the lawyers saying, "don't import 3D objects from remix3D because we can't really be sure that they are as copyright free as it says" or from the business folks saying, "don't make big PowerPoiint files; avoid 3D".

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      I did see that, and I'm sure that will be really, really useful to graphically inclined folks but 100% of my Powerpoint content is text, tables, diagrams and static images.

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      hrlngrv Alpha Member #100 - 1 month ago

      In reply to jr.flynn:

      More things for the design-challenged to misuse in presentations. The PowerPoint Circle of Hell awaits.

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      RonH Alpha Member #149 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      3D charts could work nicely...

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      It's possible that there will be nothing new for your kind of work, but we'll need to wait and see because the video hinted at lots of new stuff which wasn't mentioned.

      That said, it's also possible that these new features will encourage you to do things differently and create something better.

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      jr.flynn Alpha Member #424 - 1 month ago
      In reply to WP7Mango:

      I'm sure there are minor improvements that they chose not to cover, hopefully some may have significant impact for businesses/enterprises. As for me becoming more creative that is as likely as Paul becoming more optimistic. :D

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      Nickel Alpha Member #343 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      You are a creator even if you do not think of yourself as one, you just created that comment ;)

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      Chris_Kez Alpha Member #320 - 1 month ago
      In reply to jr.flynn:

      Lots of other Windows news between last month's MS Ignite conference, next week's Office event and mid-November's Connect event for developers.  

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    glenn8878 Alpha Member #2387 - 1 month ago

    Creativity should cover media like photos, movies, music, and apps. They seem to stop short of their objectives. Their offerings from the Anniversary update wasn't good enough.

    Windows users are essentially niche users. We all use it differently. You know what they say... "Jack of all trades, Master of none". That's how Windows feels like. They are unable to master one task by honing it to perfection. I welcome their attempt, but it will likely be of limited consequence if they got it wrong. Let's see how it turns out.

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      Dan Alpha Member #291 - 1 month ago
      In reply to glenn8878:

      Business creativity, not consumer creativity. Their business customers are where they make all their money from. Consumers dont give a crap about Windows, its a legacy product and we've all moved on to iOS and Android.

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      WP7Mango Alpha Member #2513 - 1 month ago
      In reply to Dan:

      Speak for yourself. Unless they only use a phone, consumers haven't moved on from Windows.