Eve V 2-in-1 Sells Out Immediately

Posted on November 23, 2016 by Paul Thurrott in Hardware, Microsoft Surface, Windows 10 with 26 Comments

Eve V 2-in-1 Sells Out Immediately

A crowd-sourced 2-in-1 aimed squarely at Microsoft’s Surface Pro 4 sold out immediately this week on Indiegogo, no doubt spurred by its combination of high-end specs and affordable pricing.

On the—ahem—surface, the Eve V, as it’s called, looks a lot like Surface Pro 4, with a familiar 2-in-1 form factor that combines a tablet body with a detachable keyboard cover. No surprise there: All major PC makers are likewise copying the basic Surface Pro 4 design, and even Apple and Google have gotten into the act.

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But the Eve V has some important advantages over the Surface Pro 4, which still utilizes a year-old Intel Skylake-based architecture and lacks modern USB-C ports. The Eve V, meanwhile, offers a newer 7th-generation Intel Core processor, has two full-sized USB 3 ports, vs. one on Surface Pro 4, and two USB-C ports, one of which also does Thunderbolt 3. The Eve V’s keyboard cover is also wireless, so it can work without being physically attached to the device.

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But the biggest advantage is likely the price: Where a Surface Pro 4 with a Core i7 processor, 16 GB of RAM, and a 512 GB SSD costs $2350, a similarly-configured Eve V is only $1400. That’s almost $1000 less expensive. And if you want an entry-level version, a Core m3-based Eve will cost just $699. The Core i5 version is $960.

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And that explains why they’re all sold out as well.

Well, not sold out, exactly. But if you want to get an Eve V, it’s going to take a while. Like April of next year. Because the Eve V’s first run was already snapped up by fans who pre-paid on Indiegogo.

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I’ve reached out to Eve about potentially reviewing this device, but I’ll have more information soon regardless. Yes, there are a lot of 2-in-1 PCs these days. But this one looks legitimately interesting.

 

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26 responses to “Eve V 2-in-1 Sells Out Immediately”

  1. 1217

    Seriously?  "oops!"?

    • 5234

      In reply to nordyj:

      I bet that's the response people will have next year to the statement: "I put money into a crowd-sourced piece of tech from a company that didn't exist before-hand because no capital investor wanted to put money into them".

       

      It's also the response said tech company will have when they spend your money and you have nothing to show for it.

  2. 5519

    So let me get this straight.  Folks pay now for a computer that isn't released yet??? Has this company ever shipped a product??? Said product is way cheaper than competing products??? Sounds to good to be true....

    Computers all seem to go down in price with time, so I would imagine there will be a similar speced product at the same price come April.

  3. 5539

    Sold out isn't really the right term for something that hasn't been built yet. Been burned on both Indiegogo and Kickstarter. Not for anything that expensive though. Burned isn't really the right term either. These are investments with potential returns. No guarantees.

  4. 5664

    I hope someone sells another good quality device comparable to the Surface 3, if there isn't already something out there. 

    I'd love an x86 2-in-one with good build quality and a $500-ish price. 

  5. 5516

    I gotta say, if it sounds too good to be true then... well, I'll believe it when I see Paul's review. Crowdfunded hardware seldom goes to plan.

    Looking at the Indiegogo page, I had to laugh at their "Scandinavian Design" claim. You mean to tell me the SP4 was designed in Scandinavia? Because the Eve sure looks a lot like an SP4.

    • 5119

      In reply to captobie:
      Yeah, I am skeptical of the battery claim: 12h claimed, actual 10-12h? With the direct competitors are much worse for actual.

       

      • 442

        In reply to zbecka:

        Rarely do laptops get the full stated battery.  But still, I'm more likely to think it will be better due to the less push to make it thinner, and instead make a bigger battery.  Consider than the SP4 gets 6 out of the 9 advertised, if that's the standard, we could see 9 out of the stated 12 for the Eve V.  Not too bad.

  6. 6525

    Most of the specifications are nice. There is a 2 years warranty except for normal decrements of battery duration, a battery replacement service for roughly $50 incl. postage, $39 for the stylus available in so far only limited total quantity. The display reflectance is promised to be "much lower than that of Surface Pro 4". The display is bright enough and has a high contrast. The price of the final release might be (significantly?) higher than the trial edition prices.

    It all sounds (too) well and exemplifies where other manufacturers should be going with their designs and services. However, I do have concerns...

    Display reflectance matters very much for me. Much lower than the 5.6% (according to DisplayMate) of the Surface Pro 4 is not good enough. Matte would solve the problem but the display is glare. For outdoor reading in the not-directly mirrored sun, the 2% of the iPad Mini 4 and similar values (but with violet touch) of iPad Pros are barely acceptable but still not good enough for outdoor productive work in the not-directly mirrored sun around noon. If the display was matte (with similar brightness and contrast), I might already have taken the risk and bought the trial edition.

    3:2 is barely acceptable for me but 4:3 or 5:4 would be very much more useful.

    The great unknowns are actual battery duration at 50% versus 100% brightness setting when surfing over WLAN, for how many years battery replacement service will be available, actual WLAN quality and range, actual quality of the customer service in case of repairs and reimbursements and for how many years. Of only secondary importance are the usual CPU and SSD performance values.

    It is unclear whether the images are still render fakes or real images. How sharp or round are the edges of the chassis? How (un)pleasant is hours of hand-holding? How well is the chassis built?

    With all these questions remaining, it is hard to jump and buy a trial edition of on-demand hardware. We would feel much better if the device was a sample for the, then hopefully even better, Surface Pro 5 or an Intel 2-in-1. With Thunderbolt 3 included being the norm.

  7. 442

    I decided to pick up on the later shipment options for this.  Prefer not to be the beta tester :)  Looking forward to getting it middle of next year.  I wanted a good follow up to my SP3, and this really seems to be the best choice for a while, as MS has not announced anything yet.  AND, I'm sure MS will not push the envelope like Eve did, for instance the 1mm thicker for better battery kind of envelope (brilliant!)

  8. 4159

    Ah crowd-sourced hardware. Been there, done that. Bought a Jide Remix Ultra tablet earlier this year on Kickstarter and it has been a nightmare. Seems maker has stopped issuing software updates and fixes. Never again.

  9. 4326

    The battery life claims could be realistic because the CPUs are in different classes.  They are using is a 4.5 watt model with a base clock of 1.30GHz where the SP4 listed uses a 15 watt model with a base clock of 2.50GHz.

  10. 2233

    I wish the Surface had a keyboard dock that fully latched it in, turning it into a true hinged laptop.  If that was an accessory, I'd be all in.  The soft keyboards don't do it for me, even though I can use the SP4 with touch half of the time.

  11. 5510

    If Paul by any chance catches this, I am going to make a prediction to him that (if he wants) he can steal from me and make it his own. To be honest, I really don't care.  Hopefully, it will kinda sort change his direction on the way he looks at the computer industry and improve his analysis on how he works. In that way, he won't get much wrong, like he did with the iPad, Chromecast, Chromebook, Xbox One, (The "special") Windows Phone, etc....  

    Here it is:

    These 2 in 1 machines, are going to be the new "laptop."  Isn't it obvious?  It's not really of a another new category, but the evolution of an existing one.  Look at the power, the specs, and the technology. Not only is comparable to the typical laptop, but it goes further because of the thin design and detachable keyboard...thus making it into a tablet. 

    The question, who really started all this? The answer is simple. It's Apple.  If it were not for the Macbook Air, we probably would be at this point in hardware technology. If it weren't for Steve Jobs putting the Macbook Air into a InterOffice envelope showing the world that so much technology can be crammed into such a small chassis, in addition to the popularity and success of the iPad, there would probably be NO SURFACE or nothing Panos Panay to look upon.

    Let's not forget one thing. All those who have followed Paul Thurrott for years, know that in the early history of the Surface, Microsoft was categorizing their product as an ultraportable. Microsoft did not call it a 2 in 1 then, they called it an ultraportable. I remember this, because I took Paul to task, when he was on the other website, telling his users that the Surface was not a "device" but an actual computer. I remember, Microsoft target at the point (in history) was at the Macbook Air. 

    The reason why I am saying this, is because Microsoft and Paul are "overblowing"  this 2 in 1 category which all their strength (lol). I have argued (almost) time and time again, the shortcomings of the Surface line. Let's face reality on 2 points: 1.) It's not exactly a stylish machine, and 2) the term "success"  can be interpreted in many ways. The proof of that, is the failure of the first couple of Surface generations, including RT.  Today, I am not so sure about this Surface Pro success that Microsoft is touting? Remember the "oversupply" of Surface Pro 3? Wasn't that computer the technological "breakthrough" for the Surface line, that should've sold well? LOL..you know Microsoft is capable of not telling the truth (i.e. real Xbox One sales). The point being is this, if the iPad Pro can beat the Surface Pro 4 in sales and this Eve V computer sells out almost immediately with better "everything", .......... is the Surface Pro line really that successful? Or is it really all a hype machine with Paul doing a lot of the hyping? Perhaps, but the way I see it,...it's kinda sorta, just another laptop. 

  12. 185

    I wonder if the quality will be better than NexDock.  I really don't want to do crowdsourced hardware again until I can actually feel it in my hands.

  13. 5485

    The surface line has termal problems which void the value of any high end configuration. These do not manifest itself in constant throtling only but also battery longevity and wifi connection.

    This product will suffer the same, with the difference of price making this approach more bearable. Nevertheless if you think that will be geting a machine ootimised to take the most of its internals ... do not!

    Do yourself a favor a get something with a high end Core M if this form factor is so important for your job. Leave photoshop or even advanced software development out of the equation.

  14. 5592

    Well, it will certainly be interesting to see if this ever ships.

    And if it ships if it actually works

    And if it works if it ships at that price

    And if it ships at that price if it retains those specs.

    What's really unique about the Eve V 2 is that it's a "crowd spec" design. With a "Tell us what you want and we'll sell it to you and then figure out whether it can actually be built" model it's surprising it doesn't include a puppy.

    But it IS certainly getting lots of publicity for admitted vaporware.  Usually that means somebody with big Silicon Valley money is involved in the ownership of the company.

    As I said, the results will be interesting to watch and I, for one, and happy to have put my money on an actual Surface Pro.

  15. 1482

    I have followed Eve since the T1 - I have one and it had some issues.  I've veen part of their process of developing the Eve 5 over the past year.  Its cool to see the elements you (and others) suggest be incorporated into the design.  I chose to wait until after its released before looking into purchase.  Thanks for writing about it Mr. Thurrott, I hope you get a chance to review the device.  

  16. 2175

    I like the 2-in-1 segment. It favors mobile workers, students, casual users of computers etc. If the Surface was more reasonably priced I'd snap one up but this Eve V seems like the much better deal

  17. 2354

    Like its ever going to actually ship.

  18. 5611

    What's with the triangle symbol in place of the letter V on the keyboard?

  19. 8068

    Once they get the basic drivers and cooling right it should be fine. Msoft alread did all the design heavy lifting.

    The port layout seems to be what we actually want on the surface.

    When the final units release and we see what its like and what the warranty is, we will see.

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