Might make the switch



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  1. christianwilson

    I switched around 2007, but had toyed with the idea as far back at 2000 when I worked in a shop that primarily serviced Macintosh computers. I loved it, but I did go back to Windows in 2012. These days, I use an iPad Pro for my primary use and have a Thinkpad as my traditional PC when needed.

    These days, I don't think the switch from Windows to Mac is as jarring as it used to be. Most of the apps and services you need are available on both platforms or on the web. They are both mature, supported platforms that accomplish the same things in different ways. I can't say that one platform has ever been better for me than the other but I am glad I switched when I did because it renewed by interest in using a computer.

    If you are in the Apple ecosystem, the synergy between your Mac and your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, etc. is very nice and hard to beat. The downside to this is it becomes hard to get back out should you decide to later. Windows has the advantage of running on a variety of hardware. MacBooks went too far into form over function in 2016 and are only now getting back on track. If the hardware isn't to your liking or doesn't fit your needs, you are stuck with what Apple offers you. Windows will always provide you hardware options.

    You should enjoy the devices you use. If you are in the market for a new computer, Windows feels dull to you, and you like what you see on a Mac, I say go for it. Be adventurous.

    • juan

      I agree. If you use an iPhone and/or iPad using a Mac instead of Windows is just great. It all works so seemlessly together

  2. yoshi

    Oh boy. This topic is right on my mind this morning as I just picked up an entry level MacBook Pro yesterday. So far, I do love it. The build quality is top notch and macOS itself is so consistent. But, my brain is so trained in Windows that I'm struggling to do simple things. Here is what I've found so far, many of which echo other comments on this topic.

    Finder vs. File Explorer: Finder so far feels like a dumpster fire. I had to go into settings and choose to have it show my drive, otherwise it's off by default. Like... what? Apple doesn't want you to use any sort of folder structure apparently. File Explorer is light years ahead in this regard.

    App Management: I'll take macOS any day over Windows in this regard. I just drag the app to the trash can and it uninstalls. No windows popping up with a progress bar. The app is just gone.

    Window Management: So far, Windows takes the cake for me. I see no way to snap windows side-by-side in macOS. And when you maximize a window, it takes over the entire screen. I no longer have the dock or taskbar(if that's what it's called in macOS). I'm sure a ton of people like this, but I'd rather an option to keep those 2 things in view with a maximized window.

    Microsoft 365: I'm on M1 and from my understanding, the Office apps run native on it. But it sure does take a bit to open Excel, Word, etc. Those are the only "slow" apps to open so far. Once open, they fly of course. Just odd how long it takes for them to open up. But, the Outlook app on Mac is amazing compared to the trash it is on Windows. I actually WANT to use it now. Which is something I never saw coming. Oh and OneDrive - that is not native to M1 yet. You have to use Rosetta for that but it seems to work just fine. Not AS smooth as Windows, obviously. But it works.

    Anyway, these are just a few things I've observed so far. Part of me wants to wipe the MacBook and return it already, but I feel that I just need to learn the OS more. I was torn between the MacBook and a Surface Pro 8. I know, two completely different form factors but man, playing around with the Surface Pro 8 in person and seeing how nice it is really had me thinking. The things that pushed me to the Mac was really what you get for the money. Far better battery life, faster processor, and more storage. If I were to do the Pro 8, it would have been the base model with only 128GB of storage(vs. 256GB on the Mac). When adding the keyboard, it would have actually cost more than the MacBook Pro.

    Not sure if any of this helps at all, just wanted to share my 24 hour experience so far.

    • travlinman

      The Mac slowly grows on you, I first used mine as a novelty, then slowly became my daily driver.

      I got the Mini and added a logitech bluetooth and mouse. That allowed me a familiar keyboard layout with both windows and mac labeled keys and the familiar 2 button mouse that works great in both worlds.

    • rob_segal

      I'm adjusting to Finder. File Explorer is better in some ways. There are small details in Finder that I find odd, but I easily work around them.

      Regarding app management, dragging an app to the trash bin works, but macOS can leave stuff behind like Windows does. I use an app uninstaller that gets rid of everything. No big deal. You may not even notice this behavior. I didn't when I started using a Mac.

      SetApp is a great subscription service for Mac apps. Lots of good stuff there.

      Outlook is much better on a Mac than on Teams. It's the email and calendar app I've been wanting on Windows since forever. Teams is a bit of a resource hog on a Mac. I notice that quite a bit. Edge is pretty good on a Mac, but its style clashes with macOS and because the Mac is consistent, it stands out quite a bit. For that reason, I switched to Chrome which fits in better on a mac stylistically.

      • bkkcanuck

        I would not say I am a power user, but one thing a few genertions back (maybe 4 or 5) the rename functionality was basically none existent for batch (it would not do what you would expect)... that has been corrected. (right-click rename), it has some hidden idiosycracies - such as if you are using Format rename with Name/Index or something like that - it will index them in the order the files where selected (or the order sorted if you use Command-A to select). It is missing a regex rename built in though. That said, Automator (or I Shortcuts in Monterey - which will eventually take over all Automator functionality) is your friend and can make repetitive workflows optimization. There is paid utilities that have a lot of power for merging this automation functionality with keyboard shortcuts current (Keyboard Maestro) though it requires a significant investment in time to learn and understand fully the power of it. One thing I find Funder does better is just plugging in what you are searching for and it pulls up all files containing that content.

    • bkkcanuck

      Maximize - hit and hold down the green dot in the corner... it will instead of going into full screen give you a tile left or tile right option. (also move to another screen option).

      • yoshi

        Thanks! That will be helpful but it looks like some apps aren't compatible with it right now. I tried to do Safari and Outlook side by side but it said Outlook isn't able to do it.

        • bkkcanuck

          Hmmm... Interesting... Microsoft generally is usually quite good at updating their Macintosh apps, that was a new feature many many years ago (maybe 5+)... maybe you can file a feature request - it should be a fairly simple thing to implement. I actually prefer my Apple Mail app on the Mac and Fantastical (legacy user - not the subsciber functions) for the Calendar. Though I have been using Mimestream (free) for my google emails (basically a light version written by former Apple employees that looks like Mail, lighter and optimized for integration into Google mailboxes).

        • bkkcanuck

          I was using Apple Mail primarily up until the corporation I contract with - was purchased and they took down their online portal (forget what MS calls it). New corporate security will not allow it (nor regular VPN access from non-corporate hardware -- and most of the company only has desktop computers issued for that company that was merged in) -- they have been slow to switch over to laptops even though most people are now working from home (Citrix gateway).

  3. joloriquelme

    I am 37 years old. Using Windows since a child, in 1991 (MS-DOS really). Windows 3.1, Windows 95, etc.

    Now I work on IT full time since several years ago.

    I had several desktop PCs and notebooks on my entire life, from custom built PCs, and Notebooks from Dell, Asus, Lenovo and HP.

    On 2010, while I had a Dell XPS 15 I bought my first Mac, a 11.6" MacBook Air so I could have a portable Notebook. Great experience, but so little. Confusing user interface for me, but interesting. On the same year I switched to iPhone 4 from an awful Xperia with WM.

    Decided to buy a MacBook Pro 13" in 2013, with Retina display. Amazing display and Hardware quality. I used as a secondary portable computer alongside with an Asus 15" Notebook, with slightly better specs.

    I lived with multiple PC computers in the last years, overall good but inconsistent Notebooks. Drivers problems, performance issues, overheating and high fan noise, and of course Windows 10 that, for me, is a mess in terms of UI attention to details. In contrast, MacOS has been consistent, rock-solid stable, no problems, great experience, and my learning curve has been improving over the years.

    At the present, I have:

    A 2021 custom-built 11th Intel Core i7, with 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080, Dell 27" QHD display and Windows 10 Pro

    A Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen3 (Core i7, 32 GB RAM, GeForce 1650 Ti Max-Q, 15.6" 4K IPS display) Windows 10 Pro

    A 13" MacBook Pro M1 with 8 GB RAM and 500 GB SSD with MacOS Big Sur

    Companion devices: An iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 2021 M1 iPad Air 11"

    The "little" M1 MBP, with 8 GB RAM, blows away both PC computers, except for gaming of course.

    I decided that those PC computers will be my last Windows machines. Probably in the future if I need more performance, I will max. the RAM memory and replace NVMe for faster ones on both, and I will still using those for the years to come. Even I can upgrade the graphics card on the Desktop PC for a newer one.

    But I started a transition to MacOS full-time. In the short or mid-term I will buy a M2 MacBook Pro, a M2 iMac, and I expect in the coming years to use only Apple computers.

    I have a big home-office and I can bought another desktop for several machines. ;)

  4. sentinel6671

    You're changing one set of problems for another. Nothing is perfect. That said, the integration in the Apple ecosystem is really addictive. I would probably switchover entirely too, but I have to keep one foot in the Windows camp as I support my family.

  5. erichk

    I've never completely *switched* but I do own an M1 Mini in addition to my main Windows gaming PC and laptop, and IMO the mini is a joy to use. There are differences here and there, but I've never felt they were significant enough to the point where I would want to simply give up in frustration. My main reasons for owning the mini are tech curiosity and the fact that I absolutely adore some of the apps that you can only get on that platform, like Logic. However I feel like if somebody wanted to use the Mac as their daily machine exclusively (coming from a Windows machine), it certainly can be done. The whole class-platform thing we've got going on these days has come a very long way. Microsoft OneNote, Office, what have you, it's all there. The only downside is, well, I guess there are fewer games, but that's not important to everybody.

  6. erichk

    Oops ... that should be "cross" platform, not "class platform." lol

  7. aelaan

    Moving between platforms is these days no issue any longer. Apple has just released the new "Beasts" and I, for one, will not jump in it immediately. Today I own a Dell XPS 9710 fully decked out. When I bought this Windows laptop I surprised my wife with her M1 MacBook Air. She has been using Windows since we got married (24 years ago) and is she ever struggling. But we explore together and she is getting more and more confident. Of course she has an iPad and an iPhone so I knew the integration would be awesome.

    I knew I had made the right choice and I upgraded my XPS to a powerhouse. Sure the M1Pro and M1Max machines will be faster, but that is not what it is about any longer. I still use a MacBook Pro for work and it is about to be renewed, but I need something with a bigger screen, so it might become the Lenovo 14 or 15 inch model or maybe I am lucky and they have a MBP 16" Intel machine so I can keep my office warm.

    Every laptop has its pros and cons, I try to find the right balance for me and today this a Windows laptop. I have plenty of Apple products to keep current.

  8. yaddamaster

    awesome conversation. I've been on Windows since 2.0. Been a fanboy. Was forced to use a Macbook Pro a few years ago at work (they'd buy you a top of the line Mac but only a crappy Dell) just to get work done.

    At first I hated the Mac. Now it's completely grown on me. Window management, snipping, file management - all better on Windows. And there's more variety of hardware on Windows - the original butterfly keyboard was unusable on the Mac.

    But now after enduring the latest Windows 11 bullcrap I'm ready to start replacing my Windows boxes around the house with Macs. I won't fully buy into the Apple ecosystem but Microsoft has really destroyed any allegiance I ever had. That and switching between OS's is not really that painful.

  9. basic sandbox

    I need a new laptop. Laptops were never my main machine since I never liked the performance of laptop CPUs and graphics. Assuming the M1 Pro out-performs my powerful desktop PC, it will become my main computer and main OS.

  10. rob_segal

    I switch back and forth a few times and recently, I replaced a Windows laptop with a M1 MacBook Air. Great device, by the way. First of all, macOS has its strengths over Windows and vice versa.

    What I like about macOS vs Windows:

    It's a more consistent experience, even across applications. SetApp is a great subscription service for Mac apps. Great stuff there and is a must-have for Mac users. I like the app options on Macs better. Macs have a better selection of mail and calendar apps, markdown editors, media creation apps, and other apps consumers use. I think this is underrated by Windows users who haven't used Macs a lot. MacOS is more stable in terms of app crashes and freezes. I installed an app for snapping application windows, so I have no complains there. Tabs in Finder is useful. Performance plus battery life of Apple Silicon Macs are excellent. The built-in apps are better.

    What I like about Windows vs macOS:

    Snipping Tool in Windows 11 is a little easier for me to use than the macOS built-in screenshot tool. It saves files easier if you want to save a screenshot in a folder that is not the default one. MacOS Finder doesn't sort items in a folder by any default when File Explorer defaults to sort by name. Window management in Windows 11 is still better than macOS. Again, I found a tool which makes macOS acceptable, but Windows has the advantage here. If you're a OneDrive user, the Photos app is better than what you have on macOS for viewing photos in OneDrive (when the photos app actually works).

    If you haven't used macOS, there is a learning curve. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I like macOS quite a bit. I may not even buy a iPhone. Google messages for the web works great. MacOS is better for me in some ways. There are some things Windows does better. It's definitely worth considering.

  11. j5

    I switched to a M1 Mac Mini April of this year and I love it! I didn't switch because I was mad at Microsoft or upset about something in Windows. I use Windows and Office daily for my job. I'll never be able to leave Microsoft because of work and some of my kids school uses of Microsoft software and that's cool, I like Microsoft's stuff. I really just switched because my entire household are iPhone users and iPad users including myself and I wanted to close the ecosystem gap for myself by using a Mac and I"m a tech geek so I was really interested in use a Mac. I'd NEVER used one before. I've been a Windows user since Windows 95 and before that a Tandy (barfff) from RadioShack.

    My favorite thing about being a Mac user is the ecosystem hands down! I can use iMessage on my iPhone, iPad, and Mac. I didn't realize this until a few months into use my Mac that I could even text my Android friends via iMessage on my Mac! That was a cool nerd moment lol. Whatever I'm working on, looking on Safari, using Apple Notes or Reminders it all magically syncs and just works on my Mac and iPad. Yeah there's 3rd party software that does that. But honestly, as a very long time Windows and Android user, NOTHING on the market syncs and "just works" better than Apple software across their devices.

    I wouldn't switch just because you're feed up with Windows because honestly there's things about Mac OS I still don't like and prefer in Windows. Probably numero uno is the file management on Windows is just way better! Explorer is better compared to Finder when it comes to managing your files, choosing how you want your folders and files to be displayed when you open up Finder sucks compared to Explorer. Is it a deal break...not for me. Now I've got tons of files, been computing and saving files since the Win 95 days. But after some YouTube videos and just using it I know what to expect and how to use it to get what I want out of Finder. I have 2 monitors, a widescreen and 19 inch sitting vertical, wallpaper management on Mac isn't as good as on Windows. It take some time to get use to the Menu Bar and Dock but once you do, I think they're really neat. I have both hidden and it's great for just focusing on what you're doing in Safari or using the iWork suite, yes I use it versus Office on my Mac. I think iWork is usable and has plenty of features for home user and more. But if you're a power Excel user Numbers won't cut it for you. I also really love how Safari, iMessage, Photos all work together effortlessly to transfer files or see what I was looking at on my Mac, iPhone, or iPad. AirDrop is amazing! We use it a lot in my home to share photos, websites, contacts, send school attachments to the kids or them to us. Doesn't matter how big or small or the file, again, AirDrop just works! There's nothing like this for Windows/Android UNLESS you use third party software, create accounts, manage those accounts, make sure ALL users are doing the same thing etc etc...a pan.

    I'd recommend checking out some YouTube videos about what to expect switching to Mac from Windows for first time users. That will prepare you for some differences and just the different way Macs work. Like getting used to going to the Menu Bar to access the settings/preferences for whatever software you're using. Versus in Windows you do this within the software it's self. Just differences like that. Good Luck if you switch, let us know!

  12. bkkcanuck

    I switched in 2007 to a new MacBook pro laptop, and in 2008 adding in a replacement for my desktop with an 2 CPU Mac Pro. I did have a laptop assigned to me specifically for one customer - accessing their common knowledge database (pre macOS X). The primary reason I made the switch originally was because I do like having access to a 'UNIX' like utilities/OS and had Linux dual boot, but with Linux there was always some issue with bleeding edge laptops - some driver not working... sometimes I could take care of it myself by recompiling the kernel and installing it, sometimes I had to wait... With macOS I had access to quality commercial software that I needed and it was basically a Mac UI on a UNIX kernel.... and it just worked...

    I originally had a VM with Windows running one or two applications but within the first year, I had replaced any software I used with (in most cases IMHO) better software that ran on the Mac (I am primarily a developer). I had researched alternatives to each software package I used - before I even purchased it. I do still use Windows still for some contracts I work on, but my personal use machine is my macOS computers. The attitude I went in with was... I have chosen it, I am going all in on it and I will transition completely... I had two computers before... one was an old SparcStation 5 and one was Windows DIY build.

    Other operating systems have not tempted me to return since I made that transition. What I like is that it is UNIX under the UI, I use UNIX terminal utilities a lot. The UI is fairly consistent, polished... applications that are written to them tend to take the same care about their UI interfaces. What can get annoying if you have both windows and macOS - is the control-X on Windows is command-X on macOS (control originally originated with UNIX terminals) - for non-UI use. control-X would be typically something different (so cut and past are the same on both but different command/control keys).

    In the end, for some odd reason I just feel more 'Zen' when using the macOS UI (hard to explain) while there is a pent up frustration buried deep within me that does not let me reach the same state when using Windows. Seems silly I know, but it is the way I feel. I just find it a better machine for development (mostly a developer of large systems - i.e. banks/brokers).

    • bkkcanuck

      Basically when I was transitioned (after researching everything), I did not bother comparing one OS to the other on a feature by feature basis... I just switched... and never looked back.

  13. travlinman

    Like response here. Did a M1 Mini early summer. taken a while to get comfortable with Mac OS, Enjoy the 'synergy' of the Apple system.

    Still have my Lenovo X1 when I truly have to get deep into the Microsoft system - Comfortable and familiar.

    As far as use - the Apple Mac, tablet, phone etc.. just slowly grows on you.

    I am using a Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse on the Mini, easier to remember the keyboard shortcuts CMD-C/V vs CTL-CV etc and hard to give up the right mouse click.

    Plus - remote access software into a PC is flawless.

    Mac is not flawless, but very stable and very integrated with the phone/tablet etc.. Along with the built in apps like mail and calendar - Makes it a win - win scenario here..

    • GT Tecolotecreek

       ...and hard to give up the right mouse click.

      Ah, you know MacOS has right mouse click? You can configure your mouse or trackpad to use them.

      • bkkcanuck

        Default is right mouse click enabled... has been for a very long time... you can turn it off though.

  14. txag

    I was exclusively a Mac user from the mid 80s through 1995, when a job change forced me to use Windows 3.11 at work. I soon learned to reboot the system every morning and at lunch time, so that I could work without the BSD (or whatever it was in 3.11). After I had been using 3.11 for about half a year, I remember telllng a friend that I spent more time fixing Windows in six months than I had in the six years previously on a Mac.

    For work reasons I stayed a Windows user from 1995 through my retirement in 2018. I never could say that I loved the Windows system, though it got a lot more stable once the NT kernel became the default. I just wish they could have got rid of the registry.

    For my personal computing, I stayed with Mac and have rarely regretted it. Post retirement, my Windows usage has dropped off to almost nothing. But I can easily switch back and forth between the two systems; they work similarly enough that it isn’t a problem to be “bi-lingual”.

    For me, the biggest difference is that the Windows base is still so much larger than the Mac base that it’s still a much bigger and obvious target for malware. So the risk is higher in the Windows world.

    And I also like that Macs do not come with a lot of crap ware that needs removal before you can start using the new computer effectively.

    • navarac

      And I also like that Macs do not come with a lot of crap ware that needs removal before you can start using the new computer effectively.

      Absolutely no crapware in Linux Distros either. Windows has got silly these days.

  15. lindhartsen

    I've switched most of my personal computing to an M1 Mac Mini as of two months ago. This was pushed by a slowly building list of frustrations with half-completed features in Windows, and a hardware failing of my Surface Laptop 4 that put me over the edge.

    For context, I've been a Windows person for a long time, and a bit of a fanatic. Started with 95 as a kid, been following along ever since, owning a variety of laptops, desktops, and even being a diehard Windows Phone fan. I also work in the Graphic Design industry, so I have exposure to a Mac for work, but still liked Microsoft's design much of this time, less W10 forward.

    In terms of being better/worse, I find the Mac different. The cohesiveness of the operating system is the biggest difference, you have to look hard to find half-implemented features if you'll even find them, typically things work or they don't. Window management is terrible compared to Windows, but there's good third party apps that help give you Snap-like functionality (Rectangle I use personally), plus Mission Control is far more powerful than Task View. Finder is a mixed bag, much better at showing a lot of files compared to File Explorer, but lots of odd quirks to get used to. Gaming is near non-existent, Microsoft apps are hit and miss, and the Apple Silicon machines are notably silent doing most things. In general, there's a lot less nonsense going on in macOS if you don't dive into Apple apps too often.

    If you're the type of user who's willing to learn some new tricks, rewire your mind a bit if you're used to Windows keyboard shortcuts, and don't have any must-have Windows apps, it's interesting to see the other side. A refurbished M1 Mac Mini from Apple is a pretty affordable way to jump in if you have a good monitor/keyboard/mouse, the baseline 8GB/256GB storage model can go for under 600 bucks if you can get one (it isn't listed right now unfortunately).

  16. rob_segal

    Also, if you like Dark Mode, there is no comparison between Windows and MacOS. Even with system tools, MacOS is far, far ahead of Windows. I know this may not matter to some people, but it is an example of Apple's attention to detail and the existence of so much legacy, decades old components in Windows.

    • hrlngrv

      Re dark mode, there are a number of Linux distributions which handle it well, like Solus Budgie. I mention this because trying out Linux on a Live USB is a lot cheaper than buying a Mac.

  17. wright_is

    I’ve used Macs since 1987 and Windows too, starting with 2.0.

    i switched to Linux at home in 2002, the to OS X in 2007, then back to Windows in 2010 as my primary workstation. I’ve just switched back to Linux and will probably buy a Mac at the end of the year. Today, there isn’t that much difference in using the two, at the end of the day, you are using applications and the OS is supposed to enable that and not get in the way…

  18. hrlngrv

    If you want CHANGE, ANY CHANGE, giving exotic Linux distributions a try would be A LOT CHEAPER than giving a Mac a try. If you want something a lot different, try any Gnome 3-base distribution or one using Budgie (or Bunsen Labs for something completely different). If you want something close to Windows, try any Cinnamon distribution. Gnome 3 and Cinnamon are desktop environments.

    • bkkcanuck

      Cheaper in initial investment maybe (though to be quite honest when I build my own machine, they are higher quality than your average build by manufacturers (and not really any cheaper than the equivalent Mac -- if they were to build exactly the same as I build). As @initrichie mentioned, Linux does have applications - some good, some not. (so you might not even have the app you need, which is even more of a problem than either Windows or macOS). That said, I have an ongoing love of Linux -- but primarily as servers. macOS built on top of UNIX ... first thing they did effectively was replace the compositor -- something Linux is trying to currently do but still oh so many problems with it... getting better but not there yet (XWindows are meant for terminals more than personal computers and workstations).

      So the downside of Linux is you often won't get the breadth of quality UI commercial apps that you would get in commercial OS world (cost of developing and then distributing installers is higher since nothing is necessarily standardized, UIs are different, etc.). I have bought (and have no problem buying) commercial software for use (actually licensing in the real sense) -- but the total amount I have spent (above average) is actually quite small (I think my most expensive one is JetBrains at $150/yr, my most expensive single purchase was Final Cut Pro... but then it is $299 but they have had free updates for the last 10 years or so... so $30 / yr. I keep all my versions up to date or if they are unmaintained I will drop them (unmaintained software is a security issue to me, and I have no problem funding software I like by upgrading regardless of need).

      • hrlngrv

        To the extent one could try Linux using a Live version on one's CURRENT PC, it's no more expensive than the cost of a USB thumb drive. If it doesn't help, then there's still plenty of $$$ to buy a Mac.

    • innitrichie

      Cheaper yes, but Linux is seriously lacking in quality desktop-class applications. UI design is ugly as sin, in fact almost everything you encounter in Linux appears to have been designed by someone with graphics skills close to my own (extremely limited). Hardware support can be very hit and miss, for example:

      My Dell laptop cannot boot with an encrypted drive in Ubuntu. It just hangs. It's an issue that's been going on with *some* Dell laptops for three years, and it's still not fixed. Workarounds are horribly complicated (such as editing your grub configuration) and don't always work. Ubuntu works fine with my boot drive entirely unencrypted, but I gave up and put Windows 10 back on there.

      Linux is free, but you'll pay a heavy price for it in terms of your time when something goes wrong.

      • navarac

        I've been using Linux for 2 years now as my daily driver. I've had no issues, even updating it. Far faster than Windows and far less reboots afterwards. I only use Windows 10 for gaming which is still lacking under Linux. Office Apps (LibreOffice/OpenOffice) are fine, but for spreadsheets you cannot beat Excel unfortunately. I shan't be returning to Windows full-time anytime soon.

      • hrlngrv

        Linux has pretty much all the browsers Windows and macOS have except for Internet Explorer and Safari, plus a few only available under Linux. (Why anyone would want to run Netsurf is a different matter, but Links2 does wonders for well & truly NOT supporting scripting.)

        As for other types of application software, it depends on what one uses. Me, I use Excel in MS Office A LOT. The Mac version is a pathetic joke in comparison, as in most would be better off using the macOS version of LibreOffice Calc than Mac Excel. OTOH, nothing comes close to Windows Excel. I also use Linux for stats analysis. GNU R work very well under Linux, and RStudio works the same under Windows and Linux. No net plus to Windows there. Perhaps my next most used application is Beyond Compare, a commercial file manager with built-in file and directory comparison which also works the same under Windows and Linux.

        I don't game, and I don't use any software from Adobe. What programming I do is limited to VBA in Excel and Python sometimes with Tkinter otherwise. The first is just under Windows (there is no more painful experience in computing than to have become used to the Windows VBA Editor then trying to use VBA for anything on Macs). The latter is better under Linux.

        If one wants UI consistency under Linux, then one must stick with either Qt-based software or Gtk-based software, and the former effectively requires using KDE and nothing else (LXQt doesn't cut it). Even then, there will be lots of, er, variety, but on the order of what one sees under Windows running FOSS.

        As for hardware issues, if I use legacy booting, I can display a boot menu and choose an external drive. That's how I've been using Linux for a while. Not ideal, but not a nightmare either. I recall having problems with Dell Laptops about a decade ago, but they were addressed by adding a command line parameter to the Linux kernel boot image in grub.cfg. Anyone whining about editing grub.cfg must not be old enough to have done much with CONFIG.SYS under Windows 3.1 or Windows 95.

        Tangent: what's the point to WHOLE DRIVE encryption? Is there anything under C:\Windows aside from SAM which needs to be encrypted? That is, is there anything there which would differ from one PC to another both running the same version of Windows? Note the exception of SAM. Same question goes for C:\Program Files*. I can certainly see the point to encrypting C:\Users and maybe also C:\ProgramData, but not much else on C:.

        It's quite possible I've just been luckier than you because I haven't had anywhere near the problems you seem to have had.

  19. bkkcanuck

    I tried to post as a new topic 'macOS Tips' but the forums would just end up going to page not found after posting it and the post disappearing. I remember seeing a reply post somewhere here (can't find, and if I add a reply now the date will not update so you don't know when it is updated) I believe from a new user not overly enamoured with dock (heritage from UNIX UI I believe and of OS/2).  I have added this here since it is sort of related, and if it is a root comment - maybe there is a chance the last updated forum date/time actually updates and is useful... if not... it will of course get lost...

    The complaint was that the dock got in the way. My original solution was to use System Preferences to configure the dock to:

    Automatically hide and show the Dock

    and check 'Magnification' and set the doc size close to the smallest size, and the Magnification to max.  

    This I found was the best configuration for me.  

    However this did not work well when Remote Desktop (All monitors) full screen to a Windows machine as the Windows bar at the bottom I occasionally had access something on that bar and a fight between the dock popping up and the bar in Windows... made things problematic.  

    I rarely have use to access the dock in macOS since I try to keep myself keyboard optimized... so I use Alfred app (but Spotlight is now about the same as Alfred for searching for Apps).  

    Anyway the tips that may be of interest are:

    You can configure the length of time a hidden dock takes to appear - if you want it to basically disappear forever until you want it you can enter the following through terminal (1000 in this case is 1000 seconds - you can set it lower of course):

    defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 1000; killall Dock

    To restore the default behaviour:

    defaults delete com.apple.dock autohide-delay; killall Dock

    To toggle the Dock to appear and disappear when you want it:


    I recommend getting use to launching apps through spotlight (or Alfred)

    To bring up the search dialog onscreen:


    You can then type the first few letters of the App you want to launch and press enter.