HP Chromebook x360 14 First Impressions

HP’s business-class Chromebook x360 14 targets the modern workplace with its premium design and versatile form factor.

As I write this, I’m in Pittsburgh for a long weekend of college tours with my wife and daughter. That we are an HP household is on display: My daughter uses an HP Envy 13, my wife uses an HP Spectre 13, and I’ve had a hard time separating myself from the new HP EliteBook 1040, which just might have the best typing experience of any portable PC I’ve ever used. (Yes, I’m overdue in publishing that review. Soon, I promise.)

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But there’s a fourth HP laptop along for this trip, and it’s an interloper: The new HP Chromebook x360 14 is, at its name implies, a 14-inch convertible laptop with a 360-degree hinge. It looks very much like the other HP PCs with which we’re traveling, with its all-metal design and thin and light form factor. But it runs Chrome OS, not Windows 10.

This platform, HP tells me, is prized by individuals and businesses for its simplicity, security, and long battery life, and for the low pricing of most Chromebooks. But businesses, in particular, also have expectations around quality and performance, and HP intends to address these needs with the Chromebook x360 14.

And it certainly looks like a premium PC, though HP aficionados will note that it bears the old, non-premium, round HP logo on its display lid and not the hip, new, chiseled and angular new premium HP logo that the firm uses on its high-end Windows PCs.

But don’t be fooled. This is a real PC. It’s powered by an Intel Core i7 processor, 4 to 16 GB of RAM, up to 64 GB of onboard storage, and provides a 14-inch Full HU (1920 x 1080) IPS display. Its all-metal construction is, if not pretty, then at least handsome and professional-looking, and it’s durable enough to achieve a MIL-STD 810G rating. It’s 16mm deep at its thickest and weighs 3.7-pounds, which is a bit heavy but adds to the premium feel.

Chrome OS will seem like a controversial choice, especially to those Thurrott.com readers who fall into the “Chrome denier” category. But it’s hard to argue with the simplicity of this system, and it boots up in seconds and handles software updating far more seamlessly than does Windows. That the HP, like other Chromebooks, now runs Android apps too, only adds to its allure.

But the Chromebook x360 14 targets businesses, not education. For those not paying attention to this platform, that may be further confusing. But as HP explained to me, almost 80 percent of the decision makers they speak to in corporations are looking for “cloud-based computers” for their workforces, and Chrome OS is pretty much it today. These systems are simpler than traditional PCs, and easier to deploy and manage, but they still support the productivity solutions that employees expect. And while G Suite adoption is still small compared to Office 365, usage grew 36 percent last year, compared to just 2.6 percent for the Microsoft solutions. Chromebooks are on the rise in business.

The Chromebook x360 14 isn’t HP’s first business-class Chromebook, but it is its first business-class convertible. In addition to the 360-degree hinge, this PC delivers on the premium look and feel that business users expect, with its all-metal design, narrow side display bezels, and backlit keyboard. It also provides the performance that today’s customers demand, and provides up to 13 hours of battery life, according to HP.

Aesthetically, the Chromebook x360 14 cuts a handsome figure, but it’s no EliteBook. The keyboard is standard-issue Chromebook, which is unavoidable but gives it a bit of a pedestrian look. And while the design is all-metal, I believe that only the keyboard deck is aluminum. Rounded corners all around contribute to a slightly different look than HP’s other, edgier designs.

But the versatility is there: The x360 14 ships with two USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 ports, one on each side, which is preferable for charging and peripheral versatility.  There’s a single full-sized USB 3.0 port on the left, plus a microSD card slot, headphone jack, and power button. (The USB-C ports are not Thunderbolt 3-enabled, but both provide Power Delivery and DisplayPort capabilities.)

And you’ll find another full-sized USB 3.0 port on the right, along with the volume buttons and Kensington security lock.

The x360-degree hinge provides the expected four modes of operation—clamshell/laptop, of course, but also tablet, tent, and media (presentation) modes—and provides the flexibility one normally only associates with Windows-based convertibles. It can also lay flat, of course.

As good, Chrome OS adapts to form factor changes quickly and seamlessly. Switch from clamshell/laptop mode into tent mode, for example, and the display quickly changes to the new, upside-down orientation and switches the display from a traditional desktop environment to a full-screen launcher display, in which your app icons are arranged in full-screen as with a phone or tablet.

Under the hood, the HP is driven by Kaby Lake generation Intel processors, which include Pentium, Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7 variants, 8 or 16 GB of DDR4 RAM, 32 or 64 GB of eMMC storage, and Intel dual-band Wireless-AC/Bluetooth 4.2 networking. It has Bang & Olufsen-tuned HP stereo speakers, dual microphones, and a 720p front-facing webcam. The 61-Whr battery delivers up to 13 hours of streaming video battery life.

The display is crisp, and provides multi-touch support, of course, but not smartpen compatibility, which is a bit surprising. As noted, the performance when switching between usage modes is excellent.

From a typing perspective, the Chromebook x360 14 offers what I’d call very good to very good performance—I need a bit more time to be sure—though the body has a bit of flex if you’re a heavy typist like me.

The glass trackpad is excellent, and responsive, and supports the expected multi-finger gestures, similarly to Windows.

HP makes various performance claims compared to competing Chromebooks like the Google Pixelbook and Dell Inspiron Chromebook. I really can’t make these comparisons myself, but I find the day-to-day performance to be excellent, and I’ve never experienced any stutters, pauses, or glitches. Fan noise hasn’t been an issue either.

From a software perspective, the Chromebook x360 14 offers a clean image, like all Chromebooks, and the only real custom additions are those apps I’ve already installed elsewhere that sync via my Google account. For those of us who struggle with Microsoft’s insane crapware additions in Windows 10, or with PC makers that add their own cruft, this is a welcome change.

And while this isn’t HP’s fault, some of the Android app experiences in Chrome OS are still a bit odd. For example, Microsoft Outlook works OK, but it has a weird split-screen view between the message list and the reading pane that was probably tailored to phones and other Android devices with smaller displays. You can’t resize either, and the Chrome OS system font settings don’t appear to impact the app, so the text is all very small. It works, but it’s not ideal.

I’m not sure whether I’m personally ready to travel only with a Chromebook, in part because of some specialty Windows applications on which I rely. But many, including many who work similarly to me, could do so. And the HP Chromebook x360 14 certainly appears to deliver on the needs of many users. And you can’t argue with the price: HP advertises a starting price of under $1000, but a Core i3 variant currently starts at under $800. A fully-decked Core i7 version is under $1100.

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  • cloverlief

    Premium Member
    21 April, 2019 - 12:37 pm

    <p>This is actually not a bad system, the price is a little steep for a non Windows system.</p><p>I am not a Chrome book denier, nor am I a direct supporter. As a matter of fact I do have 2 Android giant tablets (Samsung galaxy View 18" + ATT LTE service). I paid $800 for both (as they were on BOGO special) at the time. </p><p>They have had heavy use for 2+ years. Portable, supports office and USB/BT keyboard, great for video and all else. Considering they are a low end processor for the time they are amazingly fast and reliable.</p><p><br></p><p>With that kind of a setup $1000 for a device that does not even support all Android apps, is smaller and has no LTE is kind of a stretch for me to consider.</p><p><br></p><p>Chrome is primarily a web OS, what do you need an I7 for?</p><p>This is a serious question. Is the overhead of the OS that much, is there any real benefit?</p><p>If it had Dual Boot with Windows then it may be a better option. Chrome is kind of the lost OS in the middle, and you don't save anything going with Chrome OS vs the similar config on Windows OS, soo the point is difficult. </p><p><br></p><p>Android seems a much better option in this case as it has much more support, many more tools and works as a tablet as well. It also has support for many common tools I need (Office, etc) and can be actively developed within the same Visual Studio setup I use for Windows development. </p><p><br></p><p>If a decent performing Chrome OS system with good general support was much cheaper I could consider this a good choice.</p>

    • SebastienJRM

      21 April, 2019 - 2:35 pm

      <p class="ql-indent-1">"Chrome is primarily a web OS, what do you need an I7 for?"</p><p><br></p><p>I'm sitting here scratching my head wondering the same thing.</p><p><br></p><p>Just over a month ago, I migrated my Grandmother from her ancient Windows 7 based Samsung laptop to a new Acer Chromebook. The thing only has a <em>Celeron</em> processor.</p><p><br></p><p>My Grandmother's needs are very simple and basic, thus the Celeron is adequate for her use case. Still, everything is snappy and quick to respond; even slightly clunky Android-based games load with ease.</p><p><br></p><p>I can understand more of a power user perhaps justifying a CPU upgrade to an i3 — <em>maybe</em> an i5 — But an i7? What's the realistic use case for that processing power with Chrome OS? Especially considering the i5 U-series family is quad-core as of the 8th generation.</p>

      • mikeharris123

        Premium Member
        22 April, 2019 - 2:51 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422331">In reply to SebastienJRM:</a></em></blockquote><p>As a cross system user I spend my day on a MacBook and have a powerful PC at home where I do much of my media manipulation work </p><p><br></p><p>I travel exclusively with my Chromebook and run Android, Linux and Chrome apps at the same time.</p><p><br></p><p>Currently I am on holiday and have TV shows downloaded on Netflix and Amazon and have been logged onto the office via VPN and used RDP to control my Windows servers so it covers all requirements as my only travel device.</p><p><br></p><p>Will I ever give up my MacBook and Windows devices, probably not. But does that diminish the value of the Chromebook in any way at all. No</p><p>Chromebooks have come a long way in a short time and do not suffer and of the Windows update issues that constantly seem to infect the other people I work with.</p><p><br></p><p>Regards</p><p><br></p><p>Mike</p>

  • jules_wombat

    21 April, 2019 - 12:58 pm

    <p>All those deniers, don't understand business. Windows is on its way out. Business cannot afford all the admin to maintain complex Windows Machines on everyones desks. Its a no Brainer for CTOs to move to cloud based applications for most of their staff. And of those legacy Win 32 Applications they can be hosted in the cloud, before being rewritten for the modern age. </p><p>Anyone who disagree that Windows is on its way out, are simply sticking their heads in the sand. The consumers have moved on, and business are moving on. Its not personal, just Business. </p><p>Meanwhile in high end compute IBM are releasing Q System One, the next generation in compute. Despite many naysayers here, IBM is doing pretty well in enterprise, and its research is paying off. </p>

    • skane2600

      21 April, 2019 - 1:08 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422291">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>Gee, I thought the story was about Chromebooks. Nice monologuing on how Windows defeat is inevitable, though. </p>

    • Pbike908

      21 April, 2019 - 7:34 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422291">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I am responding on a Chromebook currently. I hadn't gotten mine out for a year or so….Chromebooks do have a place, especially if Google can ever get the Android integration to work seamlessly–it doesn't.</p><p><br></p><p>There is a viable place out there for Windows Lite, which I suspect was one of the key drivers for Edge Chromium. </p><p><br></p><p>I agree that "Peak full blown Windows" has happened. The future of 2 in ones, laptops, etc. is either Chromebook or Windows LIte.</p><p><br></p>

      • hrlngrv

        Premium Member
        21 April, 2019 - 8:15 pm

        <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/chrome-os/chromebook/205379/hp-chromebook-x360-14-first-impressions#422359&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to Pbike908:</em></a></p><p>There may be a place for Windows Lite <strong><em>if</em></strong> it could be as simple and robust handling updates as Chrome OS can. Also, it'd be nice if Windows Lite adopted Chrome OS's approach of AUTOMATICALLY encrypting users' home directories. Finally, when relying only on internal and web storage and in standard rather than developer mode, Chrome OS provides no means of launching anything except through the launcher (start menu) and the shelf (pinned icons near the launcher). MSFT could provide similar file system restrictions, but will it? Note: that'd include not being able to run portable software stored in users' Downloads directory.</p>

      • skane2600

        21 April, 2019 - 8:35 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422359">In reply to Pbike908:</a></em></blockquote><p>So the future of laptops isn't going to be full Windows but instead either Chromebooks with their minuscule market share or Windows lite that may or may not ever see the light of day. And this prediction is based on what facts? </p><p><br></p><p>Perhaps Windows lite should be called Windows RT version 3 because that's pretty much what it is. </p>

    • bluvg

      21 April, 2019 - 9:14 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422291">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>The reason Windows can be complex to admin is <em>because</em> of those applications. If those Win32 applications are rewritten as "cloud based" (browser? PWA? Etc.?), then Windows becomes pretty easy to admin as well–but with far greater flexibility. </p><p><br></p><p>The reality for most businesses is that those applications have a long tail, and while some depts/people might be able to run Chromebooks, it will be a long time before the entire business could. By that time, the next big thing may have come along anyway, requiring perhaps yet another rewrite. The cycle never ends.</p>

      • skane2600

        21 April, 2019 - 9:30 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422378">In reply to bluvg:</a></em></blockquote><p>The problem is that not all Win32 programs can be made into cloud based versions without significant compromise and there's little for vendors to gain from doing so. </p>

        • bluvg

          21 April, 2019 - 11:11 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#422379">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Agreed. And that's if the vendor is still in business or wasn't gobbled up by another company not interested in the product. And frequently, there's no great alternative. And many companies don't do dev in the first place.</p>

    • Stooks

      21 April, 2019 - 10:45 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422291">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>The future is the cloud for sure. Who has a bigger presense in cloud for business? Microsoft of Google? Who is growing that business cloud presence faster? From everything I know and read it is Microsoft. Google is like 3rd or 4th behing Amazon, Microsoft, IBM and ?</p><p><br></p><p>Office 365 is crushing G-suite in terms of market share and in Europe Office 365 marketshare it going up at the expense of G-Suite.</p><p><br></p><p>Windows will be the mainstream of business desktops for at least another 10 years if not more. Big business apps are not moving fast enough to get rid of Windows. </p>

      • jules_wombat

        22 April, 2019 - 6:42 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422399">In reply to Stooks:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yes exactly – Office 365 replaces Desktop Office, That is simply the start. I am not disputing that Microsoft has good Cloud presence (better than Google in Enterprise) – That is what Satya realised. 'Big Business Apps' are being migrated to the Cloud. Microsoft even promotes and encourage it. </p><p><br></p><p>And it is full fat Windows, and NOT the applications which is the problem. Why are we still fighting with Registry settings, device drivers, dlls headaches, endless patches and security updates etc. Administrating the Windows platform is a right pain , and for business too expensive. This is precisely why Satya realises that an lighter weight Windows is the only future for thick clients. The reality is that most business can run the majority, if not all, their applications in the cloud (Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure) </p><p><br></p><p>In Business, Full Fat Windows Clients are going the way of the Dodo. The future is Cloud. </p>

      • Vladimir Carli

        Premium Member
        22 April, 2019 - 9:52 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422399">In reply to Stooks:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Who has more market share today doesn’t mean anything. Office 365 is not crushing gsuite. Gsuite is growing ten times faster then Office 365. Most of Microsoft advantage today is related to lock in. People and business use word and excel not because they want to but because they need to. In academia we work with relatively large documents. We jump to google docs as soon as we can because it works better, it doesn’t crash, you can easily work on the same files at the same time. But, there are still many people who only use word, they expect to be sent word files otherwise they just don’t know how to open them. All this will go away in a few years. Microsoft software is mostly known for being clumsy to use and crash often. </p><p>The server business is a completely different story, I guess but don’t know much about it.</p>

        • skane2600

          22 April, 2019 - 11:33 am

          <blockquote><em><a href="#422453">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>So, who has more market share today doesn't mean anything, but idle speculation does?</p><p><br></p><p> As far as growth rates are concerned, they're not really comparable unless the magnitude of the existing base is about the same. For example, if product A has an installed base of 1 million, a 10% growth rate would require 100,000 new customers, but if company B has an installed base of 10,000 a 10% growth rate would only require 1,000 new customers.</p>

          • Vladimir Carli

            Premium Member
            22 April, 2019 - 11:56 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#422471">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I was replying to a message above where it’s written that in Europe office 365 is growing at the expense of gsuite. I don’t think that’s the case, according to what I see around me. I try to avoid using google products as much as possible and I would really prefer to pay for Microsoft services instead of using the free google ones. The problem is that google products are not only free for the end user, they are also much better. I hope that Microsoft wakes up instead of sleeping on a alleged superiority of office365. I also hope that they start improving the quality of the product instead of adding hundreds of new features every month</p>

            • skane2600

              22 April, 2019 - 12:03 pm

              <blockquote><em><a href="#422490">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>Microsoft's free online Office is pretty comparable to Google's free product, so I don't see "free" as much of a differentiator between the two. Google doesn't really have a competing product to Microsoft's native Office tools.</p>

              • Vladimir Carli

                Premium Member
                22 April, 2019 - 12:55 pm

                <blockquote><em><a href="#422492">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>did you ever try to edit simlutaneously a simple text document with three people? Please try that on word (or onenote) and google docs to check the difference by yourself. As I wrote above, I dislike google and their fake free offerings and I gladly pay for good services where my activities are not used to advertise. Office365 is not good for collaboration, word is not good, onenote is not good, onedrive is not good. The sync process stinks while it's seamless on google. All I want is that microsoft fixes this instead of adding hundreds of features to a product that already has hundreds of features more than any other</p>

                • skane2600

                  22 April, 2019 - 1:08 pm

                  <blockquote><em><a href="#422511">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>Personally, I think having multiple people editing a document at the same time to be a bad approach so I don't have experience in doing it and thus have no basis for comparison. But collaboration is just one feature and one that many people don't use particularly in schools where Chromebooks are mostly used.</p><p><br></p><p>Update: Saying it's a bad approach is perhaps too strong. Let's say I don't see the advantages. True collaboration IMO requires discussion and consensus and once you reach that point I don't think it matters whose hands are on the keyboard.</p>

                • Vladimir Carli

                  Premium Member
                  22 April, 2019 - 2:12 pm

                  <blockquote><em><a href="#422512">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I don’t really know what to reply to that. It’s how things are done in the modern workflow. My children use collaborative features in school all the time. Just last week I was working with my team of six on a 70 pages document, for which we had a deadline. We struggled because it was not possible to work on the formatting and at the same time edit the content and we had to use the limited features of google docs (formatting is very basic) because of this. Paying for office365 and having to resort often to free google accounts is depressing</p>

                • skane2600

                  22 April, 2019 - 6:00 pm

                  <blockquote><em><a href="#422519">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>You have to remember that your "modern workflow" isn't necessarily what others use. My high school kids didn't do any collaboration with their Chromebooks. Having six people work on one document at the same time seems rather chaotic to me but whatever works. </p>

    • sevenacids

      22 April, 2019 - 6:51 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422291">In reply to Jules_Wombat:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yep, they are all lulled into the marketing speech kool aid of the business school cloud prayers who know all about numbers but nothing about the value of an on-site IT infrastructure. The cloud bears a high risk for corporate secrets and depending on your size and plan, you gain nothing from a cost perspective. But, yes, it's cool on the cloud train, so everybody jump in. Common sense has long been sold for maximization of profit.</p>

  • Daekar

    21 April, 2019 - 1:53 pm

    <p>What applications would you be running on a Chromebook that call for hardware that expensive? I wish I could get my hands on a Chromebook to see what is actually available on them, because right now I feel like I'm judging the entire platform based on the assumption that its main function is to run Google Docs and Chrome. Maybe an article about the diversity of Chromebook applications is in order. </p>

  • Thom77

    21 April, 2019 - 2:11 pm

    <p>I am baffled on how Thurott gushes over these Chromebooks, but considers the entry level Microsoft Go a toy when i guarantee you that I can do way more with my entry level Microsoft Go then I could with any of these overpriced Chromebooks.</p>

    • hrlngrv

      Premium Member
      21 April, 2019 - 10:27 pm

      <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/chrome-os/chromebook/205379/hp-chromebook-x360-14-first-impressions#422317&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to Thom77:</em></a></p><p>Minimum Chromebook storage is 16GB, which is more than adequate for Chrome OS, a handful of offline apps and a few files stored locally in one's Downloads folder. OTOH, minimum MSFT Go storage is 64GB, which could get uncomfortably restrictive given the size of Windows version upgrades if one has Office and some other substantial applications installed.</p>

      • Stooks

        21 April, 2019 - 10:33 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422385">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>Poor analogy. You could for instance run Photoshop on the Go (not super fast) or Quicken and use Google Docs or MS Office web versions which do not take up space.</p><p><br></p><p>The CLEAR difference is you can run those other apps and the web apps at the same time. The Chromebook is a browser in a box.</p>

      • codymesh

        22 April, 2019 - 5:01 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422385">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>You wouldn't buy a 16 GB smartphone but yet here you people are, saying it's adequate for a laptop just because it has Chrome OS on it. </p>

        • hrlngrv

          Premium Member
          22 April, 2019 - 12:29 pm

          <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/chrome-os/chromebook/205379/hp-chromebook-x360-14-first-impressions#422424&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to codymesh:</em></a></p><p>There isn't a lot of offline software available for Chrome OS, and what there is uses a lot less disk storage than MS Office, PhotoShop, etc. Online web apps don't use much local storage either. As for user files, with no removable media, user storage is limited to the local Downloads folder and online storage, which by default means Google Drive, but using available file system add-ons from the Google Chrome Store can include DropBox, OneDrive, and some others (which I haven't used).</p><p>Yes, 16GB is sufficient for Chrome OS because Chrome OS is designed and intended for users storing most files online. No one is taking lots of photos or recording videos with their Chromebooks; Chromebook usage isn't comparable to phone usage.</p>

          • jimchamplin

            Premium Member
            22 April, 2019 - 4:51 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#422498">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>USB storage is supported in Chrome OS. Not just USB sticks, but large external hard drives, and as far as I know, USB optical drives. I should try my USB floppy drive ?</p>

    • codymesh

      22 April, 2019 - 5:07 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422317">In reply to Thom77:</a></em></blockquote><p>Surface Go uses an Intel Pentium Gold processor, which is quite slow. The Pixel Slate with a Core m3 was also similarly slow. Ultimately the problem is Intel's lack of options for OEMs at the low end, so to get an i5 at lower prices, we end up with stupid compromises like 64 gb of eMMC storage – which, conveniently, flies better with Chrome OS (browser + mobile apps) than Windows (browser + desktop apps).</p><p><br></p><p>Anyhoo, eMMC on Windows actually performs pretty well, but the tech blogosphere will never admit that. Even SATA ssd's get knocked when in fact they are perfectly adequate.</p>

      • jimchamplin

        Premium Member
        22 April, 2019 - 10:20 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#422425">In reply to codymesh:</a></em></blockquote><p>I run an older Lenovo workstation as my main rig, and it’s got a SATA2 bus, but even midrange SSDs boot Windows in under 10 seconds. I see reviews of these eMMC based systems and they outperform my box on CrystalDiskMark. I think they’re probably fine. Most people will be upgrading from lappies with slow 5400RPM spinning rust.</p><p><br></p><p>Let’s not forget that Chrome OS is less disk intensive than Windows as well.</p>

  • bob25

    21 April, 2019 - 5:55 pm

    <p>Thanks for the excellent review. Looking forward to your <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">HP EliteBook 1040 review.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">For me, personally, I'd never buy this chromebook at those prices. I recently purchased an HP x360 Envy for about $675 (on sale) with just as good or better performance &amp; screen specs and the flexibility of Windows 10.</span></p>

  • Vladimir Carli

    Premium Member
    21 April, 2019 - 7:12 pm

    <p>Microsoft should focus on improving office for collaboration instead of continuously adding features than nobody wants. The reason why businesses are shifting to gsuite is because it’s so easy to work on the same documents at the same time. It’s a nightmare with word and excel. </p><p><br></p><p>This is probably a dumb question but I never owned a chromebook. Is it possible to install windows on it? And to have both OSs at the same time?</p>

    • Robert_Wood

      22 April, 2019 - 2:17 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422358">In reply to Vladimir:</a></em></blockquote><p>I'm sure you could. I don't know if there is dual boot software for a Chromebook like there is for a Mac where you can run both. The biggest issue, however, would be the fact that most Chromebooks, since they are mostly cloud based, don't have big internal drives, so it would be difficult to fit both on the drives that come in most Chromebooks. I have two, one older one that has a 16 gig SSD and the other with a 32 gig SSD, not enough to effectively run two operating systems in the same machine. Another issue would be that most Chromebooks don't have the kind of processor and memory power. This HP does, but most still use Celerons or older Intel processors and 4 gig of memory. </p><p>I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about all this, but that would be my thought on your question. </p><p><br></p><p>WIth that said, Chromebooks are extremely useful, and you can run the Android version of many Microsoft apps like Outlook and Word if you don't like G-Suite. </p><p><br></p>

  • hrlngrv

    Premium Member
    21 April, 2019 - 8:08 pm

    <blockquote>. . . handles software updating far more seamlessly than does Windows. . . .</blockquote><p>Agreed, and if that's one of the main Chrome OS advantages over Windows, it's hard to see how MSFT addresses that weakness in Windows without abandoning the idea of updating while user accounts are active. Chrome OS downloads updates in the background, but it only installs them during reboots, in picky Linux terms when the machine transitions to single user, single tasking run level. Maybe that's more robust.</p>

    • Stooks

      21 April, 2019 - 10:31 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422372">In reply to hrlngrv:</a></em></blockquote><p>ChromeOS is able to update in the background because it has two copies of the OS on the computer. The OS is small and limited in capability, way less capable than Windows. </p><p><br></p><p>It updates the second copy in the background and when you reboot it makes that copy active. ChromeOS takes a little over 4G of space for both copies.</p>

      • hrlngrv

        Premium Member
        22 April, 2019 - 12:21 pm

        <p><a href="https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/chrome-os/chromebook/205379/hp-chromebook-x360-14-first-impressions#422397&quot; target="_blank"><em>In reply to Stooks:</em></a></p><p>By default, Windows version upgrades leave the old version on the machine, though it can be removed using Disk Cleanup. Old Windows versions use a lot more disk storage than Chrome OS versions. Another difference is that both current and previous Windows versions are stored on C: (i.e., same partition), while Chrome OS uses different partitions to store current and previous versions. Also, only OS files are on the OS partitions.</p><p>The Chrome OS approach is faster and more robust than the Windows approach.</p>

  • macguy59

    21 April, 2019 - 8:55 pm

    <p>The core i3 variant is under $600 ($599)</p>

    • Greg Green

      22 April, 2019 - 9:16 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422376">In reply to macguy59:</a></em></blockquote><p>i7 for this device seems way over powered. </p>

  • Stooks

    21 April, 2019 - 11:01 pm

    <p>"<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">&nbsp;the “Chrome denier” category."</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Who is the denier? Go to your favorite market share tracker, NetmarketShare, that you use all the time. What is the marketshare of ChromeOS?</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Well let me give you that information as of March of 2019.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Windows – 87.45%</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">MacOS – 9.73%</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Linux – 2.16%</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">ChromeOS – 0.33%</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If you use StatCounter then you get a whopping 1.28% which is less than Linux at 1.7% and other at 3.2%.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I wont deny that my 3 kids used G-Suite and Chrombooks next to Windows comptuers in their grade schools, even at the private school they all went too. At their private high schools they all used Windows 8.x/Windows 10 and Office 365. My daughter will be starting college in the fall and the private university uses……Office 365. She already has her login/email.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The public High Schools use Google and Chromebooks. The teachers at those public high schools love Chromebooks and G-Suite. They love it because they have less money. They love it because the kids can't do much and are forced to use them only for school work. They love it because they don't have IT staff anymore and a few teachers have to take over the IT duties, along with their normal teaching jobs, and Chromebooks are hard to jack up and easy to wipe and re-install.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The students, that I know in those public high schools…..hate Chromebooks. The people at my company that were given Chromebooks to use as a light VPN machine, to RDP into their Windows 10 VDI……hated them, so much so they are now gone. Yes the Windows Laptops they use to VPN and RDP to their Windows 10 VDI or desktop cost more but they users like them more.</span></p><p><br></p><p>I think G-Suite is a good product if you have simple Office Document needs. Once those needs go beyond basic Office Document needs Office 365 trumps it hands down.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Chromebooks are chosen, .33% of the time, because they are cheap….period. </span></p>

    • BoItmanLives

      23 April, 2019 - 2:16 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#422411">In reply to Stooks:</a></em></blockquote><p>So bitter. There's a reason the antiquated NMS/statcounter sites aren't picking up Chromebooks and are off by a mile, and pretty simple why, actually. </p><p><br></p><p>However best thing is for Chromebook deniers and Microsoft to actually keep believing they don't really exist and aren't a threat. MS's enduring complacency is going to be hilarious to revisit in retrospect.</p>

  • sevenacids

    22 April, 2019 - 6:43 am

    <p>eMMC on a business-class model in 2019. Seriously? Apart from that, it would make for a nice Linux machine. :)</p>

  • VancouverNinja

    Premium Member
    22 April, 2019 - 6:30 pm

    <p>Where are these Chromebooks going? The marketshare for them is still well below 2% either below 1.3% or as low .33%. No one is really using these things. If no one really uses them after 8 years why is anyone talking about them? It feels like the biggest scam/hype effort I have seen to date in the tech industry. </p><p><br></p><p>Any other product with such a pathetic market share after 8 years would be the butt of jokes everywhere…..</p>

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