First Ring Daily Live: Windows 10 S-aucy

Posted on July 28, 2017 by Brad Sams in First Ring Daily, Podcasts with 5 Comments

On this episode of First Ring Daily, Brad and Paul are going all in on Windows 10 S as it is the future of the Windows platform and Paul says goodbye.

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5 responses to “First Ring Daily Live: Windows 10 S-aucy”

  1. Minok

    The problem with forcing enterprises to take security updates immediately is that the do occasionally break functionality via a 'security decision' that can affect how IE works, or some TCP/IP internal firewall shenanigan, etc. So no one trusts that a security only update won't break something that brings down an internal application/technology at a company.

  2. Eric Dunbar

    My first takeaway "is it's terrible and don't do this to yourself"

    Love it. Yes, in its current incarnation I want Windows 10 S to fail, miserably.

    Forcing Edge and Bing as the only allowable default browser and search engine are beyond the pale. They're blatant anti-competitive moves. There's NO security reason to prevent a user from changing the default search engine from Bing. What is Microsoft afraid of? That users will CHOOSE a non-default search engine?

    Second problem is that Microsoft forces one and only one (inferior) rendering engine on all users of Windows 10 S. Chrome and Firefox have rendering engines are better at rendering webpages yet Microsoft's Windows Store blocks any and all third party browsers with third party rendering engines--there will never be Firefox or Chrome on Windows 10 S.

    Those two reasons alone are enough to make sure that Windows 10 S fails. The internet and search are too important to be subject to anti-competitive and monopolistic behaviour. macOS--the only other non-Microsoft desktop OS of note--does not restrict and has never restricted users to one browser or one search engine.

    But, if Microsoft were to eliminate that anti-competitive, monopolistic restriction, I would welcome Windows 10 S. Apple has demonstrated on a number of occasions that wholesale technology changes can be managed well and that developers can respond effectively. Apple has also demonstrated that there are benefits to completely breaking with the past.

    Apple moved from 68K to PPC CPUs from 1994 to 1999. Backward compatibility was maintained through an emulation layer. Or, apps could come as hybrid apps that had code for both CPUs. For the end-user it worked seamlessly since the OS did not change.

    In 2000 Apple moved from Mac OS to Mac OS X, completely unrelated operating systems. Compatibility was maintained by running Mac OS as an application inside Mac OS X, or, by having Cocoa "hybrid" apps that could run "natively" in both Mac OS and Mac OS X. The advantages of Mac OS X more than outweighed the drawbacks of the transition.

    In 2005 Apple moved from PPC to Intel, again, an unrelated CPU. In that case, backwards compatibility was short lived (2 years?) because the transition was fairly simple. Developers could, for the most part, recompile Mac OS X PPC apps to Intel apps using Apple's developer tools.

    If Microsoft is prepared to free the browser in Windows 10 S, I think it has a chance. But, as it stands, I really, really, really hope that Microsoft fails. It cannot be allowed to abuse its monopoly again. They set the internet back many years through their anti-competitive behaviour in the late 90's/early 2000's. The fact that iOS and Android exist means that they can't quite control the internet in the same way they could in the 90's, but, the fact that they're a monopoly on the desktop means that they can still do a lot of harm to the internet.

  3. bbold

    Band "Pro" Tip: Paul, this happened to me with my MS Band 2 last month.. it snapped in half, literally. This was my 2nd replacement band, too! I found out if you call Microsoft, they will send you a box for a return band. They also informed me that the 'service center may be out' of my size band (mine was a Large), in which case, Microsoft will keep the damaged band and send you a check for $175 to purchase something else. This isn't store credit, this is a straight up check! (I received it in about 2 weeks.) So if any of you still have busted Band 2's, contact Microsoft and they will attempt to make you whole again. Just a suggestion for those of you who have sad broken bands laying around.

  4. GTRoberts

    Audio is out of sync with video (behind)

  5. BoItmanLives

    Schools can, but won't, because there's literally no point.