Windows Weekly 730: The New Windows 11

Posted on June 25, 2021 by Paul Thurrott in Podcasts, Windows Weekly with 14 Comments

Leo, Mary Jo, and Paul dissect all of the announcements from the Windows 11 launch event.

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14 responses to “Windows Weekly 730: The New Windows 11”

  1. iron_road

    TPM can be a hardware module mostly for corporate PC's. Most modern PC's have a firmware version, Intel has PTT and AMD has fTPM and can be found in the bios YMMV depending on motherboard manufacturer.

    • pwingert

      TPM 1.2 is a hard requirement, not 2.0 but it still disappointing that an enterprise / Corporate feature is being forced on consumers.

      • saint4eva

        Most consumers do not have the security wherewithal, so Microsoft consciously protecting them by default is a highly welcome move. Well done, Microsoft.

      • TechsUK

        There are corporate features we never used in our corporation. However, TPM is part of the Google Chromebook as standard, so it is not a corporate feature. wherever privacy and at rest encryption are a need, then a place for the OS to secure keys has been needed, and prudent. Apple dropped it sometime ago, but essentially whichever macbook as a TouchID that is kind of a TPM?

    • pwingert

      Most of my daily drives have TPM 1.2 so I am fortunate. My windows tablet (Aver switch 10) is thirty-two bits so it's out. But It looks like the was more of a trial balloon than an actual release. So, I intend to ignore it if possible.

    • pwingert

      The online requirement is a problem as well. Imagine you in Eritrea, the least internet-connected country on the planet. If you're lucky you might get some internet with frequent outages but in most cases, it is horrendously expensive and extremely unreliable, Now image running a medical clinic and not having an internet connection? Or being a travelling doctor. That was a deal-breaker last time this issue came up a few years ago. BTW most gaming motherboards do not have TPM in firmware or hardware so most gamers are done!

  2. mdvle

    Really not one of the better episodes by all three of you - I don't think any of you realize just how privileged you came across as with your dismissal of Microsoft rendering any computer more than 5 years old as obsolete.

    I'm happy that you are all running new hardware - but a lot of people aren't - witness your frequent comments over the last couple of years about how people aren't upgrading their PCs.

    But there are a lot of computers out there that meet all of the hardware requirements for Windows 11 except for one entirely artificial requirement - TPM 2.0

    Clearly designed to force people into buying new hardware, and as a result a new Windows license - copying Apple and their forced hardware upgrades.

    What comes next? TPM 3.0 to force the next round of hardware upgrades (and thus Windows revenue) in 4 years....

    • pwingert

      The TPM requirement is aimed squarely at the corporate market. This is just another example of MS abandoning the consumer retail market. It's not worth their time to get rid of the TPM requirement for consumers because it not profitable enough. But on a more positive note, the TPM 2.0 is a soft rather than hard requirement. Even my 20-year-old T61 has TPM 1.2 on it and should qualify for the upgrade.

      • mdvle

        TPM 1.2 was the old requirements, Microsoft has now updated the requirements and it is TPM 2.0 for Windows 11 (and 8th gen Intel processor or better).

        Ultimate joke - Microsoft is still selling expensive Surface devices that don't meet the Windows 11 minimum requirements...

  3. pwingert

    Windows 11 ready PCs. Yeah...Right. Another good reason to skip all PC purchases until 2023!

  4. mixedfarmer75

    I got kicked of the Beta Insiders track because hardware is not compatible. Looks like you have to be 8th Gen on Intel or later. The PC I was using on the Beta track was 7th Gen I5-7200u. Does this sound right? I was surpised. Was looking forward to getting an early look.

  5. ghostrider

    This is ridiculous - here we go again. It's just an operating system - people make it sound like it's the messiah or something. Every single thing is done for a reason - be that to generate headlines, get the press talking, undermine the previous version or generate new PC sales. MS probably saw, after COVID, PC sales would drop off a cliff again, which annoy's their partners, so what to do? As usual, take past ideas, a few new ones and some things that have failed before, slap them all together and re-brand as something new, hence Windows 11. To make it look different enough, you tweak the UI (rounded corners now - very Windows 7!), a bit more bling, some more pointless apps, empty promises and ta-da, world goes crazy.

    Does anyone remember the promises MS made about Win10? There were a lot, and barely any of them came true. Win10 was getting more negative press than positive in the last 24 months, so hey, roll on Windows 11 - the best, most secure, best performing.... you get the message. We've been here before, and the elephant in the room - TPM2.0. That alone will generate a nice number of new PC sales for the usual reasons.

    • mdvle

      But remember every new PC comes with a new Windows license, so MS benefits financially as well.

  6. professorwhiskey

    That laptop around 1:20h has some mean speakers on the sides. I want one.