Groove for Windows 10 Gets a Bit More Fluent

Groove for Windows 10 Gets a Bit More Fluent

Those interested in the evolving Windows 10 user experience will want to take a look at the Groove app, which just received a Fluent Design System makeover.

As you may recall, Microsoft announced that it would begin implementing its new Fluent user experiences (UXs) this year. And though the firm chose to first publicly discuss this new look and feel when it announced the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, it’s not actually tied to that (or any other) release. Some Fluent UXs are already shipping in Windows 10 apps today, some will be delivered with the Fall Creators Update, and some will come later.

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The first wave of Fluent UXs is aimed at modernizing the look and feel of Windows 10. And the new version of the Groove app, which is available now in the shipping version of Windows 10, features the not-so-subtle addition of two of these new user experiences: Acrylic and reveal highlight.

As I noted previously, acrylic about using light and colors to illuminate from behind. It’s the first implement of a so-called “material design,” and while it looks like a transparency or blur, it’s intended to emulate the real world material and, in doing so, create more natural experiences.

The addition of acrylic is obvious in the updated Groove app: The menu bar on the left offers a translucency effect that lets through whatever is visually underneath that area. (Typically, the desktop wallpaper and/or one or more other windows.)

The new Groove app also utilizes a reveal highlight to indicate that items in that menu can be selected. Basically, it’s a standard mouse-over effect, but using light-based visualizations. Here, for example, you can see that the Explorer menu item is fully selectable because the mouse is hovering right over it. But the My Music item, right below it, has a subtle border, too, indicating that there is a UX element nearby that can also be selected.

No, it’s nothing dramatic. But then that’s the point of the Fluent Design System: To modernize Windows in a way that is evolutionary, and not revolutionary.

 

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  • ibmthink

    04 June, 2017 - 5:27 pm

    <p>Can you turn these effects off? I do prefer the non-transparent matte look.</p>

    • fishnet37222

      Premium Member
      04 June, 2017 - 7:00 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#122354"><em>In reply to ibmthink:</em></a></blockquote><p>If you click the gear icon at the bottom of the app's sidebar, you'll see a setting for Mode. Set it to System and you won't have the transparency. Mine was set to that which was why I wasn't seeing the transparency.</p>

      • ibmthink

        04 June, 2017 - 7:11 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#122363"><em>In reply to fishnet37222:</em></a></blockquote><p>Hm, seems its not in the shipping version, yet. I just tried it and the transparency doesn´t appear.</p>

      • rbwatson0

        Premium Member
        05 June, 2017 - 3:01 pm

        <blockquote><em>Mine was set to "System" and I have the transparency.</em></blockquote><blockquote><a href="#122363"><em>In reply to fishnet37222:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

    • jwpear

      Premium Member
      04 June, 2017 - 8:36 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#122354"><em>In reply to ibmthink:</em></a></blockquote><p>You can turn off transparency effects in Color settings. That will disable the transparency in Groove.</p>

      • jimchamplin

        Premium Member
        04 June, 2017 - 10:06 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#122368"><em>In reply to jwpear:</em></a></blockquote><p>Unfortunately that also will remove the transparency from Taskbar and all of its flyouts. That's okay with me, since I want it all turned on.</p>

      • rbwatson0

        Premium Member
        05 June, 2017 - 3:02 pm

        <blockquote>I got the update on my non-insider computer. It's my fast ring computer that doesn't have it yet. :-(</blockquote><blockquote><a href="#122368"><em>In reply to jwpear:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p>

        • johnlavey

          Premium Member
          05 June, 2017 - 4:06 pm

          <blockquote><a href="#122655"><em>In reply to rbwatson0:</em></a><em> I see no change on mine. I have Windows Insider Fast Ring too. </em></blockquote><p><br></p>

  • BoItmanLives

    04 June, 2017 - 6:09 pm

    <p>"<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But then that’s the point of the Fluent Design System: To modernize Windows in a way that is evolutionary, and not revolutionary."</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Looks more like it's headed back to Vista and Win7 with the transparencies and gradients. Not sure I'd call that evolutionary when it's something they already had, but decided to throw away in favor of ugly fischer price monocolor tiles.</span></p>

    • jimchamplin

      Premium Member
      04 June, 2017 - 10:12 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#122359"><em>In reply to BoItmanLives:</em></a></blockquote><p>Fisher-Price. No "c" in Fisher. Hyphen between them. Also, untrue in this case. The tiles are amazing. There hasn't been a better invention in the history of computer. I mean… Seriously? What did that Alan Turing guy know? He didn't come up with tiles.</p><p>No really, get over it. Some people like it. They're a helluva lot better than an ugly desktop covered with crap.</p>

      • Tony Barrett

        05 June, 2017 - 7:33 am

        <blockquote><a href="#122372"><em>In reply to jimchamplin:</em></a></blockquote><p>Alan Turning was a certified genius who with a small group of extremely talented people made a huge difference that effectively changed the fate of the world. He didn't want money or fame – but he knew what mattered and why it was so important. An odd analogy, but Turing was everything Microsoft isn't. </p><p>MS are just shyster's, manipulating their monopoly to push people into their services by whatever means necessary. You just get the feeling every single thing Microsoft say or do these days has an ulterior motive.</p>

        • Paul Thurrott

          Premium Member
          05 June, 2017 - 7:37 am

          <blockquote><a href="#122417"><em>In reply to Tony Barrett:</em></a></blockquote><p>Yes. In this case, the ulterior motive is to make Windows look more modern.</p>

          • Atoqir

            05 June, 2017 - 8:50 am

            <blockquote><a href="#122420"><em>In reply to Paul Thurrott:</em></a></blockquote><p>By updating the parts the majority don't use: apps</p>

            • SvenJ

              05 June, 2017 - 10:56 am

              <blockquote><a href="#122439"><em>In reply to Atoqir:</em></a> You do realize apps is short for applications, right. I can't imagine what you do with an OS, which is what Windows is, if you don't use apps (applications). Even the Start Menu, basically an application launcher, is itself, an app. </blockquote><p><br></p>

              • Atoqir

                05 June, 2017 - 11:07 am

                <blockquote><a href="#122513"><em>In reply to SvenJ:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>I do know that. Yet they keep updating parts many people don't use. What about explorer first huh. Or the settings panel that has it third revamp but ist still split between control panel and settings. File picker, window containers, etc. You know all the parts of the OS everyone uses 50 times an hour instead of all the part where people use browsers for in this day and age.</p>

    • rameshthanikodi

      04 June, 2017 - 11:05 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#122359"><em>In reply to BoItmanLives:</em></a></blockquote><p>It's not so straightforward. This UI is still much more monochromatic than Aero.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      05 June, 2017 - 7:37 am

      <blockquote><a href="#122359"><em>In reply to BoItmanLives:</em></a></blockquote><p>We spend the entire week arguing semantics, for sure.</p>

  • fishnet37222

    Premium Member
    04 June, 2017 - 6:11 pm

    <p>Are you saying this new look is available now in the shipping version of Windows 10? I'm in the Slow ring of the Insider Preview and I still have the old look.</p>

    • Paul Thurrott

      Premium Member
      05 June, 2017 - 7:36 am

      <blockquote><a href="#122360"><em>In reply to fishnet37222:</em></a></blockquote><p>I believe it is available everywhere now (all rings).</p>

  • dallasnorth40

    Premium Member
    04 June, 2017 - 6:32 pm

    <p>Yes, it's in the current shipping version of Windows 10. And, it really looks great! I noticed that the transparency is very pronounced when the Groove window has focus. But becomes completely opaque when you move the focus to another application. Nice.</p>

  • jimchamplin

    Premium Member
    04 June, 2017 - 10:10 pm

    <p>I wish Groove would pick a custom color for its titlebar, or apply an acrylic to it.</p>

    • Lewk

      Premium Member
      05 June, 2017 - 1:37 am

      <blockquote><a href="#122371"><em>In reply to jimchamplin:</em></a></blockquote><p>There's a couple of concepts showing the menu bar and main content of the app going up into the titlebar having the titlebar diminish. Maybe they'll eventually do that?</p><p><br></p><p>Also there's several concepts showing the titlebar removed entirely from multiple apps, with the Min/Max &amp; Close buttons lowered so it works in Tablet mode as well without it hiding. And looks like it's apart of the app instead of separated into a bar. As though it's a OS level change. Maybe they're waiting for that?</p>

      • jimchamplin

        Premium Member
        05 June, 2017 - 1:35 pm

        <blockquote><a href="#122398"><em>In reply to Lewk:</em></a></blockquote><p>I've seen those weird mockups and they make no sense. Why would the caption buttons need to move down and contract the working area for Tablet mode when it doesn't use those buttons?</p><p>As for mockups diminishing the titlebar, that's totally fine. I'd love that!</p>

  • SherlockHolmes

    Premium Member
    05 June, 2017 - 12:54 am

    <p>And here we go again. Why doesnt MSFT get the new UX out at one time? Until the change is complete, there will be 2 UX at the same time. Not good. </p>

    • SherlockHolmes

      Premium Member
      05 June, 2017 - 2:45 am

      <blockquote><a href="#122395"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Oh and for those who got me a ( – ) ask yourself this: Why has MSFT removed transparency starting with Windows 8 and puts it now back in? I tell you why: Because on public demand. And they cant admit they made a mistake by removing it at the first place. So they call it fluent design to cover up their error. And everybody is "excited" about this new UX. </p>

      • Demileto

        05 June, 2017 - 6:15 am

        <blockquote><a href="#122399"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>No, it was because it ate Surface RT's battery.</p>

        • SherlockHolmes

          Premium Member
          05 June, 2017 - 8:59 am

          <blockquote><a href="#122408"><em>In reply to Demileto:</em></a></blockquote><p>And since Surface RT was so a success, MSFT could had put Aero glass or transparency back in it after Win RT had gone. </p>

      • evox81

        Premium Member
        05 June, 2017 - 8:58 am

        <blockquote><a href="#122399"><em>In reply to SherlockHolmes:</em></a></blockquote><p>Or it could be that 5 years have passed since&nbsp;Windows 8 was&nbsp;flattened everything and now the UI is evolving again. That's well in line with the pattern we've seen since XP. XP's cartoon design stuck around for 5 years. Vista's aero glass for 6. Windows 8's metro for 5.</p><p><br></p><p>Time, things and tastes all change. This isn't some huge conspiracy. </p>

  • wright_is

    Premium Member
    05 June, 2017 - 4:13 am

    <p>Didn't notice the acrylic effect at first… But then I had a black background. Once I moved it over another window, I could see it.</p><p><br></p><p>Meh, why? I find it more distracting than anything else. Maybe it will grow on me.</p>

  • Daekar

    05 June, 2017 - 7:00 am

    <p>So… why is this change necessary? I mean, was there something wrong with the previous design style? How hard is it to just pick something, anything, and stick with it? As long as both are fit for purpose… why?</p>

    • Rob_Wade

      05 June, 2017 - 3:52 pm

      <blockquote><a href="#122410"><em>In reply to Daekar:</em></a> Because style of substance. And, although I'm clearly in a very tiny minority, I felt the Metro style was much more attractive and functional.</blockquote><p><br></p>

  • bbold

    05 June, 2017 - 9:18 am

    <p>I like! :D</p>

  • Brian560

    05 June, 2017 - 11:12 am

    <p>Groove was great when you could use it on a Windows Phone but once you had to switch to Apple or Android it became useless. This story is an irritant.</p>

  • Rob_Wade

    05 June, 2017 - 3:51 pm

    <p>Microsoft, again, has its collective head in the up-and-locked position. "Natural experience"? LOL, it's a frickin' computer and operating system. There's nothing 'natural' about it. And, speaking only for myself, this whole 'fluent' thing is just as annoying, ugly and useless as Aero was.</p>

  • stlbud

    05 June, 2017 - 4:22 pm

    <p>Microsoft would do better to fix their database issues so Groove stops splitting albums and renaming tracks. </p><p><br></p><p>P.S. Don't tell me to turn it off. It comes enabled by default and by the time you turn it off, the damage has already been done. </p>

  • Jules Wombat

    06 June, 2017 - 7:43 am

    <p>Still falls a long way short of the Zune experience.</p>

  • Brian560

    06 June, 2017 - 10:28 am

    <p>What would be nice is if a person could take all of their music from various music accounts (several iTunes accounts, X Box music accounts, Zune accounts, Groove, Amazon music accounts etc..) and open/combine them into one single Groove account easily. That way I could listen to all of the music I purchased over the years without switching between accounts. That is a problem worth solving. Its the reason I dislike iTunes, and why I would be reluctant to switch to another music service like Groove again. I had groove on my defunct Windows Phone.</p>

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